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Cacti ID
    #7630581 - 11/13/07 01:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I just went to the nursery and picked these up. They're probably not active but my garden center didn't have and ID on them. I know one of them is grafted and the other one isnt. I looked online for an ID guide but couldn't find a good one. Thought maybe you guys could help. Thanks!






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Re: Cacti ID [Re: Mankey]
    #7630726 - 11/13/07 01:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think the second one is blue myrtle.


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Re: Cacti ID [Re: Mankey]
    #7630729 - 11/13/07 01:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

looks like Myrtillo geometrizans on the left. not sure about the other one.


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Re: Cacti ID [Re: zekesdream]
    #7630887 - 11/13/07 02:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yup myrtillocactus geometrizans and a variegated gymnocalcium grafted on hylocereus i think...


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Re: Cacti ID [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7630915 - 11/13/07 02:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

or maybe the graft stock is cereus :shrug:


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Re: Cacti ID [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7630923 - 11/13/07 02:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks guys!


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Re: Cacti ID [Re: Mankey]
    #7631518 - 11/13/07 04:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

the left is mytrillocactus geometrizans which is a wonderful grafting stock and the right is gymnocalycium mihanovichii grafted onto hylocereus undata or "dragonfruit"

if it werent for the dragonfruit grafting stock, the gymnocalycium would not produce chlorophyll...
it somehow does not produce chlorophyll on its own, and its curious to think how it could survive alone in the wild.

oops i slipped and grafted myself to your head????

i still ponder these facts. maybe cpw has an answer?
i learned from reading his posts about them not producing chlorophyll. hes a truly cool member here.


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Re: Cacti ID [Re: eyefyndum]
    #7632753 - 11/13/07 09:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Cacti have suddenly become extremely fascinating to me as well. I cant wait to get some more. The idea of grafting is probably one of the coolest things ever.


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Re: Cacti ID [Re: eyefyndum]
    #7633288 - 11/13/07 11:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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if it werent for the dragonfruit grafting stock, the gymnocalycium would not produce chlorophyll...
it somehow does not produce chlorophyll on its own, and its curious to think how it could survive alone in the wild.





This Gymnocalycium is variegated. Some variegated cacti have some green and therefore could keep themselves alive in the wild but this variety has no green and therefore could not survive in the wild. A small number of cacti seeds will sprout into variegated plants, but if they have no chlorophyll they will die soon thereafter. People can keep them alive and spread them by grafting, but in the wild, no, it could not survive as it lacks chlorophyll.


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Re: Cacti ID [Re: plainswalker]
    #7633966 - 11/14/07 07:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

This Gymnocalycium mihanovichii is not a variegated cactus, it´s actually a dyed plant. It is the classic Hibotan Gymno, they starve it for water and then they feed a dye solution which gets absorbed and gives color to the plant.
This plant originally is dark colored, I have one outdoors will post a pic soon when it blooms.


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Re: Cacti ID [Re: felixhigh]
    #7634348 - 11/14/07 10:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

you sure felix?  the ones here are certainly variegated, usually a red or orange, but also a mix from light yellow to the more often seen darker reds/purples.  certainly genetic as they graft true and keep on going that colour :smile:  is dying plants a common thing in the Americas???


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Re: Cacti ID [Re: kadakuda]
    #7634352 - 11/14/07 10:28 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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is dying plants a common thing in the Americas???




We do it with carnations and usually at some point in early schooling with celery stalks to illustrate how plants absorb water (lol).


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Re: Cacti ID [Re: Mankey]
    #7634373 - 11/14/07 10:36 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ya i remember doing it in grade school too lol. but i mean do people actually sell dyed living plants? (not cut flowers)


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Re: Cacti ID [Re: felixhigh]
    #7634679 - 11/14/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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felixhigh said:
This Gymnocalycium mihanovichii is not a variegated cactus, it´s actually a dyed plant. It is the classic Hibotan Gymno, they starve it for water and then they feed a dye solution which gets absorbed and gives color to the plant.




thats fucked up...!
will it eventually grow out to its natural colour?


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Re: Cacti ID [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7635124 - 11/14/07 01:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i think one of my grafted  lophophora is like this because it is turning back to green over time and it sucks because i paid alot for it:nonono:


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Re: Cacti ID [Re: royer]
    #7635150 - 11/14/07 01:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I figured it might have been something like dye b/c the colors fade on it. How disappointing. I love your lophophora, royer.


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Re: Cacti ID [Re: kadakuda]
    #7637247 - 11/14/07 08:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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kadakuda said:
ya i remember doing it in grade school too lol. but i mean do people actually sell dyed living plants? (not cut flowers)




They´re very common in my country. I believe it´s a Jap thing.


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Re: Cacti ID [Re: felixhigh]
    #7637471 - 11/14/07 09:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

funky.  but also keep in mind many variegated plants turn more green as light levels go down.  those variegated caespitosa are very variable with this.  my plants when inside for typhoons would go quite green, now that its all sunny and clear they are going bright yellow and pink again.

them Jap's be into all sorts of crazy shit...but thats anew one on me :frown:  shitty.


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