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shroomiin
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klondike_bar said: Just one question from a first-time grower:
how exactly does one actually preform the dunking in layman's terms? Is it as simple as removing the colonized cake with your hands and placing it in a container of water?
Birth your cakes > submerge them in cold water (you can refridgerate or not, it doesn't really matter)> wait 24 hours > take them out and roll em' around in some dry vermiculite > place in FC.
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klondike_bar
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Re: Dunking question [Re: shroomiin]
#10310577 - 05/08/09 10:35 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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so once colonized, the cake is esetially solid/immune to [reasonable] contact?
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bigsam
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I've always read that thats true, but I've never even seen any contams in my closet except for after the first flush.
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jingus

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Re: Dunking question [Re: bigsam]
#10431949 - 05/31/09 08:20 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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OK so another question - say there's a FC set up with four cakes, but they've grown at different rates. Because of this, it wouldn't be best to harvest them all at the same time.
Before dunking the cake that was just harvested, what is the best way to let it dry out? The only place to keep it that i can think of would be still in the FC, but that's humid... Would it be okay to sanitize a glass jar and toss the cake in there for a while? does it need fresh air?
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jingus

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Re: Dunking question [Re: jingus]
#10432255 - 05/31/09 09:13 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Also, to give you an idea of what i'm talking about, here are some pics.
I'm not sure at all what to do in terms of harvesting, because some shrooms are growing so differently.
    
And assuming its best to let the already harvested cake dry out in another chamber, because the FC would be too humid..
What do you all think about this glass jar, its originally for coffee, but seems like it would be the best option.

Please give me any input, theres not too much time, and it is a first time grow - i'd appreciate it
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Dunking question [Re: jingus]
#10432336 - 05/31/09 09:26 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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The dunk and roll tek is about halfway through this video. The first part describes the shotgun terrarium. You can leave your cakes in a shotgun, and just lift them out when you mist. All the cakes need is a few days of rest, and the next flush will come in stronger after the dunk. Roll in dry verm before first flush, but not for second and succeeding flushes.
Follow the links from that video to the other three parts, or click here for the brf tek.. I think you'll find them helpful. RR
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Sn20w
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best post ever
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EaglePicksMyEyes
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In your experience does dunking substantially increase yield? I would imagine it does especially during subsequent flushes. I'm nervous to try though due to the sheer size of the cakes I'm using. (casserole size-no casing, in mono tubs) I have been afraid to open my sterile environment to contams but if it will yield more fruits I am open to adding the extra pain in the neck. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
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k00laid
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EaglePicksMyEyes said: I'm nervous to try though due to the sheer size of the cakes I'm using. (casserole size-no casing, in mono tubs)
pics.
i dont think you really have an entire monotub filled with a BRF/verm mixture.
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EaglePicksMyEyes
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Re: Dunking question [Re: k00laid]
#14742077 - 07/09/11 05:55 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm using 9x13x3 tubs to colonize bulk sub (dung) with fully colonized rye berries. Once the bulk sub is fully colonized I move it to mono tub for fruiting. I have not been casing. Yield has been about 1.5 dry oz./1st flush with diminishing returns on subsequent flushes. What bothers me is that only 35-45% of the surface area is bearing fruit. Some of the pics I've seen on here are more like 80-90% surface area fruiting. I'm getting beautiful fruits just not a satisfactory number of them. I welcome any critiques or advice. Thanks all.
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k00laid
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EaglePicksMyEyes said: What bothers me is that only 35-45% of the surface area is bearing fruit.
give the rye berries longer to get their hold on your dung substrate.
search for Ryath's pinning strategy
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hellcesar
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yes :p
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hellcesar
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Re: Dunking question [Re: hellcesar]
#15798077 - 02/12/12 02:47 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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ive found this helpful, time to fruit my 1st babies ever, 1 week of consolodation should be enough for this next step
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mind0vermind
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i also have a question about dunking. now when i dunk my cakes, im finding that if i dunk for 12 hours or more, my cakes have a funny smell when i take them out of the water. am i soaking for too long? its a bit soury of a smell. im worried maybe i dont need to dunk so long?
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Mdahmer
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This is pretty old but whatev yo, I think the standard for the first dunk is 24 hrs or so, that's what I did. And subsequent dunks are 12 hrs. It shouldn't smell funny though so maybe you have a bacterial contam or something. Maybe dunk for less time and see but I do 12 and it's been fine
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Kizzle
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mind0vermind said: i also have a question about dunking. now when i dunk my cakes, im finding that if i dunk for 12 hours or more, my cakes have a funny smell when i take them out of the water. am i soaking for too long? its a bit soury of a smell. im worried maybe i dont need to dunk so long?
That's normal after a long dunk in room temperature water. Just rinse the cake off good after the dunk. If the smell doesn't go away though or gets worse it could be something more serious.
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