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Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050?
    #7634427 - 11/14/07 10:54 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Will this ever happen? Is it even possible?


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: mindExpand]
    #7634432 - 11/14/07 10:55 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It's not going to happen. Theoretically possible, but improbable.


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7634460 - 11/14/07 11:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It already is!!!!!

Have you seen Wal-Mart, son?

There is NO shit in their toilets, EVER.
Well, there is CUSTOMER shit, but no EMPLOYEE shit. I can smell the difference.

Anyways, Robots don't shit. Robots that roll back prices and wear blue vests that shake your hands.

It's been five years since I smelt employee shit in Wal Mart. So the only LOGICAL assumption one must make is that Wal*Mart hires Robots. Automatons don't release feces; this is displeasing to me.

They must hire Robots, which eat the Human employees, but don't shit out their bones, so you can't even tell anymore.

This is directly related to my Alien Theorums.


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: mindExpand]
    #7634461 - 11/14/07 11:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Never.

All life has an insuppressible urge to continue to exist. Robots do not.

Robots can't really reproduce either.


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7634469 - 11/14/07 11:02 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7634473 - 11/14/07 11:03 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

but it's predicted that inevitably the A.I will become so smart that it will be self aware. and robots dont need to reproduce they can just tune themselves up and live forever.


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7634483 - 11/14/07 11:06 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

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Robots have feelings too.


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7634493 - 11/14/07 11:09 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Never.

All life has an insuppressible urge to continue to exist. Robots do not.

Robots can't really reproduce either.




You must not know about the REAL robots, then...The AlienRobots. They DO reproduce. They are Self-replicating neurologically ostentatious traveller ((S.N.O.T.)that is what snot REALLY stands for)

Anyway, the aliens create these things, that birth aliens, that makes more snots, that birth aliens. They really run off of a cicular based logic system, retrieved from the Mushroom Astral Plane, when the space mutants sent Psilo. Spores to earth.

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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7634500 - 11/14/07 11:10 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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but it's predicted that inevitably the A.I will become so smart that it will be self aware.




I don't agree with that prediction. Let's say it were true though. Why would these robots resolve to eradicate human beings? Genocide is not a logical way to ensure the survival of a species (if the robots thought of themselves as a 'species.') Only nutjobs think committing genocide will help them. I would think these robots would be smarter than that.


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7634506 - 11/14/07 11:11 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i hope there is a big robot war, i wanna be neo


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7634516 - 11/14/07 11:13 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i don't know if you ever heard of them calling some UFOs critters. it is said that these UFOs are self maintained with no beings in them. i consider these UFOs to be robots with AI from this future or past time. these robots are already here and might be interested in quarantining the human race do to incompetence. i and the shroomery how ever will be safely moved like a shroom ox genome strain out a petri dish and saved either in 1. earth 2, or 2. some euphoric matrix.


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7634520 - 11/14/07 11:14 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

well that really depends. the robots could see the human race as a source of competition for limited resources such as land, ore, oil. the only logical plan of action would be to eliminate the competition


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: mindExpand]
    #7634526 - 11/14/07 11:15 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yes


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #7634528 - 11/14/07 11:15 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

ive watched plenty of movies, im ready to fuck some robots up


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #7634546 - 11/14/07 11:17 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

in most cases humans are the aggressors, i see this as one of those cases. Of course robots would have no reason to kill humans, other than self defense.


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7634555 - 11/14/07 11:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe once us Humans realize we ARE robots, then we can finally take conrol of ourselves.


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #7634557 - 11/14/07 11:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

so what is your plan of attack for those robots with .50 caliber gatling guns and xray/heat-sensor vision?


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7634558 - 11/14/07 11:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

damn right self defense, because there is no law about not killing robots yet, so if i see one, im going matrix on they asses


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #7634562 - 11/14/07 11:20 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i seen enough movies to want to fuck a Lucy Liu Bot.


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7634563 - 11/14/07 11:20 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Maybe once us Humans realize we ARE robots, then we can finally take conrol of ourselves.



are you drunk?


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #7634573 - 11/14/07 11:22 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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well that really depends. the robots could see the human race as a source of competition for limited resources such as land, ore, oil. the only logical plan of action would be to eliminate the competition




I think that materialistic philosophy is the type of flawed thinking we primitive humans exhibit. I would think an advanced, self-aware intelligence would not be subject to the irrational fears that drive stupid animals like ourselves to seek MORE MORE MORE. Advanced biological life has thrived to this point on fear and emotion, and I don't see robots utilizing these same inefficient tools to ensure their own survival.


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7634575 - 11/14/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The question really is WHEN and not IF it will happen


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7634582 - 11/14/07 11:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

ill fuck a cherry 2000


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: mindExpand]
    #7634589 - 11/14/07 11:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It depends what you mean by robot.

I think that if we humans will eventually be able to manipulate genomes enough to make new species, in a way they would be artificial, but alive and cognitive none the less.

If we make something smarter and stronger than us I can totally see it turning around and biting us in the ass.


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: mindExpand]
    #7634591 - 11/14/07 11:25 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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But IF it happens WHEN? 50 years? 100?



are you planning something?


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7634593 - 11/14/07 11:25 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

it's not so much a fear of not having more, as a cold, logical realization that the resources are limited and the longer they allow the human race to persist, the sooner those resources will run out, especially considering the shocking rate at which we humans waste those precious resources.


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #7634600 - 11/14/07 11:26 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7634602 - 11/14/07 11:26 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: mindExpand]
    #7634609 - 11/14/07 11:27 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

man rosie's gotta fat ass.


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7634619 - 11/14/07 11:28 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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ts727 said:
Quote:

Apollyphelion said:
Maybe once us Humans realize we ARE robots, then we can finally take conrol of ourselves.



are you drunk?




No, in all seriousness, the only drug I have had today so far was a couple cups of coffee earlier this morning, like at 5 am.

Why you ask? Because I didn't spell control right?


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: mindExpand]
    #7634640 - 11/14/07 11:32 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i don't mean to sound like a nutter, yet in my heart if robots are logically likely to take over the world. i dout the draconian vampire reptilians and other outer plane terrestrials would stand be subject to such a thing. i think on the contrary they would be the ones initiating such events for their own beniets.

the net reflects the human race almost better then reality for the fact all secrets are able to be exposed with out fear and there is a wider range of consciousness at a moments time. this in effect can be one of the most massive tools of subjection and control layed out be these beings.

the thing that scares me is this block us humans have in our thought process of forgetting. forgetting our past can be the very reason we become subjected to these beings in such a way. i think this is getting worse as lcd's take the strong hold of the human consciousness.


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7634649 - 11/14/07 11:33 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It's already happening here. CCTV systems are a giant network of robots, designed to automatically scan and focus on those with "suspicious behaviour".

Tivo's build up a psychological profile of what you watch, the information can be passed back to the controlling server.

Mobile phones provide a handy way for suspects to be traced.

RFID is infiltrating into more and more places, on euro and dollar notes, providing another way to locate people, and trace where currency is going.

Robots will just facilitate a new world order of slavery, with no privacy, and the freedom to work, or to starve.


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Mojo]
    #7634664 - 11/14/07 11:36 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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It depends what you mean by robot.

I think that if we humans will eventually be able to manipulate genomes enough to make new species, in a way they would be artificial, but alive and cognitive none the less.

If we make something smarter and stronger than us I can totally see it turning around and biting us in the ass.




i say we should be talking about cyborgs/ but i think we are talking about dangerious AI to the human existince


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7634668 - 11/14/07 11:36 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

ts727 said:
Quote:

Apollyphelion said:
Maybe once us Humans realize we ARE robots, then we can finally take conrol of ourselves.



are you drunk?




No, in all seriousness, the only drug I have had today so far was a couple cups of coffee earlier this morning, like at 5 am.

Why you ask? Because I didn't spell control right?



B/c of what youve said in this post. Im curious about your ideas


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: LosAngelesGraff]
    #7634672 - 11/14/07 11:37 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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i don't mean to sound like a nutter, yet in my heart if robots are logically likely to take over the world. i dout the draconian vampire reptilians and other outer plane terrestrials would stand be subject to such a thing. i think on the contrary they would be the ones initiating such events for their own beniets.

the net reflects the human race almost better then reality for the fact all secrets are able to be exposed with out fear and there is a wider range of consciousness at a moments time. this in effect can be one of the most massive tools of subjection and control layed out be these beings.

the thing that scares me is this block us humans have in our thought process of forgetting. forgetting our past can be the very reason we become subjected to these beings in such a way. i think this is getting worse as lcd's take the strong hold of the human consciousness.



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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7634675 - 11/14/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Oh, which ones? I'd be happy to elaborate.


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    #7634677 - 11/14/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i want to get cybernetic parts surgically installed into my framework, so you could attach thing into my headwork, and view my dreams on things, like lcd's and plasma screens


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    #7634678 - 11/14/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Robots will just facilitate a new world order of slavery, with no privacy, and the freedom to work, or to starve.



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    #7634683 - 11/14/07 11:39 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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It's already happening here. CCTV systems are a giant network of robots, designed to automatically scan and focus on those with "suspicious behaviour".

Tivo's build up a psychological profile of what you watch, the information can be passed back to the controlling server.

Mobile phones provide a handy way for suspects to be traced.

RFID is infiltrating into more and more places, on euro and dollar notes, providing another way to locate people, and trace where currency is going.

Robots will just facilitate a new world order of slavery, with no privacy, and the freedom to work, or to starve.



True, technology is a catalyst for a new form of slavery. But im talking actual robots. Not tattle tell robot technology.


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7634685 - 11/14/07 11:40 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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It already is!!!!!

Have you seen Wal-Mart, son?

There is NO shit in their toilets, EVER.
Well, there is CUSTOMER shit, but no EMPLOYEE shit. I can smell the difference.

Anyways, Robots don't shit. Robots that roll back prices and wear blue vests that shake your hands.

It's been five years since I smelt employee shit in Wal Mart. So the only LOGICAL assumption one must make is that Wal*Mart hires Robots. Automatons don't release feces; this is displeasing to me.

They must hire Robots, which eat the Human employees, but don't shit out their bones, so you can't even tell anymore.

This is directly related to my Alien Theorums.



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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7634692 - 11/14/07 11:41 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

"Beneath that warm, fuzzy exterior beats the cold, mechanical heart of a robot."


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: ShiftedAbsurdity]
    #7634695 - 11/14/07 11:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yawn. humans are far more complex than any robot that can be created.


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    #7634717 - 11/14/07 11:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I just don't think they would find them as precious as we do. They wouldn't need food, potable water, artificial heat, precious metals and gems or other luxuries.

Agriculture is what takes up most of the land humans occupy, so I don't think space would ever be an issue.

As for oil, I would think a superior intelligence would power their civilization with sources that are less short-sighted and more sustainable, if longevity is their goal. Add to this a robot's apathy towards luxuries like SUVs and all sorts of superfluous manufacturing, and I don't think they'd be fighting any wars over it. Humans are creatures of impulse. We want to drive everywhere rather that walk, and consume goods shipped from thousands of miles away because we want what we want when we want it.

Anyway, we can only guess at how a civilization or robots would operate, so these debates are just for fun really. I would suspect in the case of desperation for resources, robots would kill each other rather than us, because other robots have exactly what they need to sustain themselves; humans would need largely different resources.

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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7634729 - 11/14/07 11:50 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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It already is!!!!!

Have you seen Wal-Mart, son?

There is NO shit in their toilets, EVER.
Well, there is CUSTOMER shit, but no EMPLOYEE shit. I can smell the difference.

Anyways, Robots don't shit. Robots that roll back prices and wear blue vests that shake your hands.

It's been five years since I smelt employee shit in Wal Mart. So the only LOGICAL assumption one must make is that Wal*Mart hires Robots. Automatons don't release feces; this is displeasing to me.

They must hire Robots, which eat the Human employees, but don't shit out their bones, so you can't even tell anymore.

This is directly related to my Alien Theorums.



this one?




I should have pushed the absurdity level of that...:blush:

It was a joke, my friend, possibly too rich for its own good:nonono:


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7634768 - 11/14/07 11:59 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yeah it wasnt over the top enough to be funny. i thought you were being serious.


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    #7634772 - 11/14/07 12:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i think hes mentally retarded


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    #7634783 - 11/14/07 12:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

hahaha


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #7634790 - 11/14/07 12:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

haven't you heard? it already happened.



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    #7634803 - 11/14/07 12:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

&rel=1



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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: wps]
    #7634903 - 11/14/07 12:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

damn that robot punked that dude in the brown sweeter


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: wps]
    #7634934 - 11/14/07 12:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

AI has an advantage in that its evolution is driven by conscious thought which is a metric shit-tonne faster than the random chance of biological evolution.

The power of quantum computing is going to change everything. It's seriously not very long before we have computers that easily outperform the raw processing capabilities of the human brain (hardware), but software is a different issue, certainly we could not write software that outperformed ourselves. Presumably it would have to spawn from an evolutionary mechanism, but would evolve faster in a virtual environment than in 'reality'.

I think a better question is how long before we merge completely with AI, possibly even leave our bodies for some kind of stellar data-stream... a long time no doubt, but an interesting thought.


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: sam420]
    #7634953 - 11/14/07 12:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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AI has an advantage in that its evolution is driven by conscious thought which is a metric shit-tonne faster than the random chance of biological evolution.

The power of quantum computing is going to change everything. It's seriously not very long before we have computers that easily outperform the raw processing capabilities of the human brain (hardware), but software is a different issue, certainly we could not write software that outperformed ourselves. Presumably it would have to spawn from an evolutionary mechanism, but would evolve faster in a virtual environment than in 'reality'.

I think a better question is how long before we merge completely with AI, possibly even leave our bodies for some kind of stellar data-stream... a long time no doubt, but an interesting thought.




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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: LosAngelesGraff]
    #7634984 - 11/14/07 12:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

sorry that went over my head :confused:

anyway, anyone ever check out any of Ray Kurzweils lectures/books? He's a bit optimistic to say the least but it's interesting as hell.  There are lots of good lectures for free at http://www.ted.com/talks

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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7635023 - 11/14/07 12:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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It's already happening here. CCTV systems are a giant network of robots, designed to automatically scan and focus on those with "suspicious behaviour".

Tivo's build up a psychological profile of what you watch, the information can be passed back to the controlling server.

Mobile phones provide a handy way for suspects to be traced.

RFID is infiltrating into more and more places, on euro and dollar notes, providing another way to locate people, and trace where currency is going.

Robots will just facilitate a new world order of slavery, with no privacy, and the freedom to work, or to starve.



True, technology is a catalyst for a new form of slavery. But im talking actual robots. Not tattle tell robot technology.




Ahh, in which case, things like the predator drone are just the beginning. EMP nullifying armour, and EMP weaponry would be prudent areas of research.


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #7635037 - 11/14/07 12:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

"Hod Lipson: Robots that are 'self-aware'"

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/165


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: mindExpand]
    #7635042 - 11/14/07 01:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't worry about it. The world ends in 2012 anyway.


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: sucklesworth]
    #7635049 - 11/14/07 01:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: mindExpand]
    #7635058 - 11/14/07 01:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

firstly: yes, in a way all these machines we made are taking up so much of our time that you may as well argue that robots HAVE taken over...

secondly: no, because robots can never be self-aware - self-awareness requires mind to identify its own totality, and for a machine that would mean to return to its own basis fuzzy logic or whatever math equations underly its functioning, and that is NOT profound but plain basic logic and reasoning and thus very limited

besides, i think self-awareness is a never ending unfinishable process and not a solid end-state, my guess


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: Ahimsa]
    #7635209 - 11/14/07 01:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

why can't it understand what it is made of like we do? your point makes no sense


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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: sam420]
    #7635254 - 11/14/07 01:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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why can't it understand what it is made of like we do? your point makes no sense



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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: sam420]
    #7635256 - 11/14/07 01:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i read Joseph Stalin or Vladimir Lenin or some one that was in this group of people or time clamed that they would cross over to the cyber world and then put his soul in some kinda computer and then become a robot and that way he could live long enough to see the new century and conqure it.

no one ever seems to know about this when i bring it up.
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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: LosAngelesGraff]
    #7635283 - 11/14/07 01:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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    #7635303 - 11/14/07 01:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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no one ever seems to know about this when i bring it up.




lol, you must be awesome to talk to at a party :grin:


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    #7635320 - 11/14/07 01:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: LosAngelesGraff]
    #7635329 - 11/14/07 02:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Robot Stalin running around reeducating bitches.:thumbup:

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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: 2FiNiTe]
    #7635359 - 11/14/07 02:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Robots to take over humans....2030? 2050? [Re: sam420]
    #7635488 - 11/14/07 02:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Robots taking over.... nah, we will be dead long before we have the technology to make robots capable of taking over the world.

Hell even if we did make robots that smart- they would probably be smart enough just to leave this planet for a new one- seeing how we would probably blow it up than to let it go.


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