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faceofbear
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Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues
#7634218 - 11/14/07 09:31 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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so i went back to the patch a couple of days ago equipped with fully-charged camera 
saw this fella on the way:

so i arrived at the patch. can you spot it? [edit=location pics removed]


the cyans were hiding in the ivy, their neighbours were more out in the open.




here are the current neighbours...some of them have really been bugging me because they have shown blue bruising but i really don't know what they are and and rather wary of them.



i headed over to my friend's house straight afterwards... saw a few cool mushrooms on the way, but this was definitely the best of the bunch. take that, wooden fence!

unfortunately we've had a couple of hot, dry days of late and the cyans are suffering...had to pick some shrivelled shrooms and hope the rest can pull through...
anyway
this weekend marked the first trips from these little guys! my girlfriend and one of my best mates took the honour as i was dropping acid anyways. very potent. i only had a handful fresh from the day's picking and both had mild trips.
  
[also i met a grower who showed me some pics on his camera phone of some rather massive cubes! we talked and i said i'd send him a sample he can use to try and cultivate these guys]
Edited by faceofbear (11/14/07 01:11 PM)
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: faceofbear]
#7634222 - 11/14/07 09:33 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Amazing stuff.
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: xmush]
#7634230 - 11/14/07 09:35 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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whoa!!!!!! wait a minute are you saying you found those cyanescens in LA, as in CALIFORNIA!?
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: hoopershroomer]
#7634246 - 11/14/07 09:44 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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GREAT PICTURES!
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: hoopershroomer]
#7634256 - 11/14/07 09:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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whoa great microclimate, they really love rhododendrum . that place is perfect for then , all those psilocybes ,
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: cactu]
#7634287 - 11/14/07 10:04 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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dude thos other ones are friscosas um I mean lacosas! Those are all ps. Pic the shit out of them. They look like the fibs that we are picking up here in the bay area. Pick them and take more pics.
Damn this makes me think that these friscosas things are being thrown off by the cyans
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: hoopershroomer]
#7634300 - 11/14/07 10:10 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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hoopershroomer said: whoa!!!!!! wait a minute are you saying you found those cyanescens in LA, as in CALIFORNIA!?
Approximately where in LA can you find psilocybin mushrooms growing? I didn't think they were anywhere even close to LA.
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: Plok]
#7634302 - 11/14/07 10:11 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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in la, southern cal. it doesnt matter exactly where. Get out amd start looking
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: tahoe]
#7634585 - 11/14/07 11:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Funny... I think ive been there before haha... i will not attempt to search though since thats cruel and really far anyways. lol never thought to look in the bushes.
and those ones you dont know what they are but they bruise blue, yeah.. those are probably cyanofriscosas. damn strong.
Btw, do people stare at you?
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: hoopershroomer]
#7634751 - 11/14/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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hoopershroomer said: whoa!!!!!! wait a minute are you saying you found those cyanescens in LA, as in CALIFORNIA!?
yes, my friend. LA as in southern california. i mean, check those palm trees out.
to tahoe:
damn! i thought maybe cyanofibrilosa at first, but then they looked too different. i'm really not familiar with fricosa/lacosa, but the bruising was evident in a couple of the samples i took. so thanks a lot for the ID, i will duly "pick the shit out of them" 
to subbedhunter:
for real? PM me next time you're in the area... the patch is pretty tiny, but i want to make it more sustainable and i wouldn't begrudge you some spores/mycelium.
and yes, i get the feeling i'm being stared at a bit, but i take my camera (charged or not) and pretend to take pictures for my "photography/botany project" when people get too close.
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: faceofbear]
#7634881 - 11/14/07 12:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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fuck yeah dude! Way to go!
So whats everyones thoughts on this? Are they slowly making their way down south or have they allways been there and people just didnt know yet?
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: sui]
#7634902 - 11/14/07 12:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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none of thoes pictures i dont think are P. Cyans.... if you look there are features that relate to other types of psilocybes and distinct it from not being Cyans.... maby cyans but there is to much of a nipple and they are too rounded instead of totaly wavy. GOOD FIND THOUGH
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: elflord420]
#7635062 - 11/14/07 01:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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elflord420 said: none of thoes pictures i dont think are P. Cyans.... if you look there are features that relate to other types of psilocybes and distinct it from not being Cyans.... maby cyans but there is to much of a nipple and they are too rounded instead of totaly wavy. GOOD FIND THOUGH
i really think one of the two species here are cyanescens. from these pictures it's harder to tell, because they are a little dry - when they get like that they turn that paler colour and flatten without "waving" like PNW cyans growing with plenty of rain.
i say this because i have collected specimens after rainfall and they have been nice and wavy and as typically cyanescens as you could hope!
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: elflord420]
#7635070 - 11/14/07 01:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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the friscosa does tend to throw off mushrooms that look like cyans. This makes a few of us think that it is more closely related to cyans then to fibs. They are also a lot stronger then fibs supposedly are.
I have seen a fricosa patch that was cloned from a friscosa produce a few that looked like cyans.
Great find!!! keep it secret!!! Those friscosas are super adaptive, I said this last year. They are taking over and fruit early in the season and will fruit just about anywhere. AWESOME
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: tahoe]
#7635799 - 11/14/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah, the friscosas are fast becoming my favorite to find.
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: sui]
#7635954 - 11/14/07 04:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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No prob faceofbear. If I find something down here I will let you know about it too
Btw, If you ever have a chance, try searching Malibu or Calabasas sometime I have the constant feeling these cities have a lot of unfound magic whe i drive through them. such large gated communities and grassy lawn areas and woodchips too!
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: sui]
#7635972 - 11/14/07 04:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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No prob faceofbear. If I find something down here I will let you know about it too
Btw, If you ever have a chance, try searching Malibu or Calabasas sometime I have the constant feeling these cities have a lot of unfound magic whe i drive through them. such large gated communities and grassy lawn areas and woodchips too!
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wow man thats amazing i used to always read hear that cyanescens would not grow south of the bay area, or any other type of psilocybe ffor that matter. thats a great find tho man!
its crazy because just a few days ago someone posted a find from MAINE and was astonished because i read they didnt gro there either!
psilocybes are taking over!
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: hoopershroomer]
#7636681 - 11/14/07 06:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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im not so much under th impression that they are taking over, just that more and more people are out and looking, so finds are being recorded in places that didnt have them recorded previously.
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: hoopershroomer]
#7636687 - 11/14/07 06:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rock out with your Cock out!!!
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: Boomers420]
#7638223 - 11/15/07 02:10 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Those are some beautiful cyans you got photographed....
you should probably harvest that entire patch, then dry them because it will probably fruit a few more times...and the more you can get, the better!
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: tyler_0_durden]
#7638518 - 11/15/07 07:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I really wouldn't know anything about American fungus, but is there a possibility that those are in fact Psilocybe subaeruginascens ?
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: _OttO_]
#7639238 - 11/15/07 11:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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_OttO_ said: I really wouldn't know anything about American fungus, but is there a possibility that those are in fact Psilocybe subaeruginascens ?
don't think so... the persistent membranous annulus is too distinctive to miss, and these guys have good ole' plain white stems. well. except for the bluing.
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: faceofbear]
#7639731 - 11/15/07 01:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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What How are they fruiting all the way down there? So does this Species Grow All over the california coast then? Trip out...
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: never_2_high]
#7641805 - 11/15/07 08:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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temps are fine in la. It is just dry down there but sprinklers work almost as good as rain
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: faceofbear]
#7642842 - 11/16/07 02:25 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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faceofbear said:
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_OttO_ said: I really wouldn't know anything about American fungus, but is there a possibility that those are in fact Psilocybe subaeruginascens ?
don't think so... the persistent membranous annulus is too distinctive to miss, and these guys have good ole' plain white stems. well. except for the bluing.
Curiously, the description of these on Spore works site is "It is macroscopically similar to Psilocybe azurescens and initially thought to be that species. But it is differentiated by spore size and shape as well as the presence of a persistent annulus (ring). "
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: _OttO_]
#7643937 - 11/16/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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_OttO_ said:
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faceofbear said:
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_OttO_ said: I really wouldn't know anything about American fungus, but is there a possibility that those are in fact Psilocybe subaeruginascens ?
don't think so... the persistent membranous annulus is too distinctive to miss, and these guys have good ole' plain white stems. well. except for the bluing.
Curiously, the description of these on Spore works site is "It is macroscopically similar to Psilocybe azurescens and initially thought to be that species. But it is differentiated by spore size and shape as well as the presence of a persistent annulus (ring). "
exactly...
these shrooms definitely do not have a persistent annulus ring, and therefore are definitely not subaeruginascens. it's harder to tell from these pictures because the conditions have been pretty hot and dry (i went back to the patch yesterday to find the cyans small and shrivelled and the fricosas rotting and cracking ), but when these guys get moisture, their caps are deep brown and wavy. textbook cyanescens.
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: faceofbear]
#7644507 - 11/16/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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faceofbear said:
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_OttO_ said:
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faceofbear said:
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_OttO_ said: I really wouldn't know anything about American fungus, but is there a possibility that those are in fact Psilocybe subaeruginascens ?
don't think so... the persistent membranous annulus is too distinctive to miss, and these guys have good ole' plain white stems. well. except for the bluing.
Curiously, the description of these on Spore works site is "It is macroscopically similar to Psilocybe azurescens and initially thought to be that species. But it is differentiated by spore size and shape as well as the presence of a persistent annulus (ring). "
exactly...
these shrooms definitely do not have a persistent annulus ring, and therefore are definitely not subaeruginascens. it's harder to tell from these pictures because the conditions have been pretty hot and dry (i went back to the patch yesterday to find the cyans small and shrivelled and the fricosas rotting and cracking ), but when these guys get moisture, their caps are deep brown and wavy. textbook cyanescens.
some get wavy some dont but coloration is spot on.

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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: sui]
#7644577 - 11/16/07 02:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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thats g.
seriously... dont you get people like wtf are you picking shrooms for on a high street as they walk past?
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: haymaker]
#7644611 - 11/16/07 02:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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haymaker said: thats g.
seriously... dont you get people like wtf are you picking shrooms for on a high street as they walk past?
oh yes very much. People think its very strange indeed.
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Re: Cyans in LA - The Saga Continues [Re: _OttO_]
#25298460 - 06/29/18 07:52 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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_OttO_ said: I really wouldn't know anything about American fungus, but is there a possibility that those are in fact Psilocybe subaeruginascens ?
Nah, the first few photos in the OP are Psilocybe cyanescens and the next few are Psilocybe allenii.
Psilocybe subaeruginascens hasn't been found in North America - I recently got some DNA sequences back from it and it's most closely related to P. ovoideocystidiata - but not that close, only 97% in the ITS gene. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MG984054
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