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Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds: LSA Question???
    #7632244 - 11/13/07 07:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hey y'all I recently received 10 seed's from BBB. I'm planning on doing them very soon but worried about the nausea. However I stumbled upon this thread in Bluelight. http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=87094

Basically it talks about sublingual absoption.

Here's a quote from one of the poster's: "Yes I do have experience with this method, and it works. In fact it works so well that I will never swallow another HBWR seed again.

I estimate you lose about 20-30% potency, but its well worth it with the lack of nausea and cramps. You don't need to add any water or juice in your mouth, in fact you will probably have enough trouble holding all the saliva that collects in your mouth for 25 minutes.

But yes, it works. And you start tripping quicker too."

How long before I take the seeds should I pop Dramamine? Should I take all 10 seeds considering it loses 20-30% potency which would make it feel like 6 or 7 seeds?

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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds: LSA Question??? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7632250 - 11/13/07 07:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Holding the seeds in your mouth for 25 minutes sounds a lot worse than just eating them. The stomach comfort is not that bad.

Take two dramamines a half hour before you eat the seeds and it should be no problem.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds: LSA Question??? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7632274 - 11/13/07 07:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Holding the seeds in your mouth for 25 minutes sounds a lot worse than just eating them. The stomach comfort is not that bad.

Take two dramamines a half hour before you eat the seeds and it should be no problem.




taking two dramamines before eating them and you think i'll be just fine?


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds: LSA Question??? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7632277 - 11/13/07 07:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If I eat them how many should I eat for my first HBWS experience?


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds: LSA Question??? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7632301 - 11/13/07 07:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds: LSA Question??? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7632377 - 11/13/07 07:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

"When in doubt, double the dose"

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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds: LSA Question??? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7632387 - 11/13/07 07:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think if you are going to eat them you shouldn't take anything to prevent discomfort; its part of the experience imo.  It isn't as bad as you would think.  Always keep the reefer with ya though, seems to help quite a bit. A friend of mine swears by taking a fat teaspoon of ginger prior to ingesting LSA, but I've never tried that.  You may throw up anyway, but you will feel absolutely fantastic afterwards! :grin:

You can always do a cold water extraction, or an alcohol extraction if you want to prevent some of the unpleasant effects also.  I've done both; they work great!  There are quite a few methods for ingesting LSA, all of them equally effective, but each are a bit different in my experiences.

I think once you taste the seeds, you will discover that holding them in your mouth for that long won't be that pleasant.  The seeds don't taste bad at all, its just that the taste (or lack thereof) gets old fast, and the aftertaste gets old even faster.  You will know what I mean once you try it.

Have a great time...  Good vibes to you!

EDIT: Being that they are from a vendor, I'd recommend trying 8-9 seeds for your first try... err maybe 4-5 just so you know how it is going to effect your stomach; you may decide to ingest them in a different manner, who knows?  Maybe I have a high tolerance to these seeds, or I enjoy a harder trip than most, but I need to dose like 14-15 vendor supplied seeds to get where I like to be.  I'm sure fresh seeds would require a lot less.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds: LSA Question??? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7632400 - 11/13/07 07:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

10 seeds makes it a tough decision. You might can handle all ten but it could also get pretty rough. I don't recommend it for your first time. Some say 5 is minimum and some find that strong. I personally would eat 7 and plant the remaining 3 or save them for when you get some more.

I don't have a great deal of experience with them though and what I do have is with extracted lsa. I'd wait for some more experienced people to respond.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds: LSA Question??? [Re: KilroyMilosevik]
    #7632402 - 11/13/07 07:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Alright guys i've decided to do a modest dose. That does being 5 seeds, i'm eating them right now. Peace and good vibes.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds: LSA Question??? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7632417 - 11/13/07 07:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If it doesn't affect me as much as I hoped for I can always buy more. =)


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds: LSA Question??? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7632420 - 11/13/07 07:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You should have a good time. I tried seven of them a couple weeks ago and it was wonderful. There was a little bit of nausea but it wasn't very bad, and the trip itself felt way too nice for it to have bothered me. It's very relaxing by psychedelic standards.

Good vibes to you, I'm sure it will go well. :laugh:


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds: LSA Question??? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7632425 - 11/13/07 07:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Be careful about the temptation to take more early if you are not feeling what you expect. Those things take a while to kick in.

5 is probably a wise choice for a first try. If turns out to be a good dose for you then you have enough left for another trip later.

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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds: LSA Question??? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7632441 - 11/13/07 08:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hey I'm not feeling it yet but do you guys have any free mp3's of like nature sound's and shit, anything good for meditation, or point me in the right direction? peace and good vibes to y'all.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds: LSA Question??? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7632474 - 11/13/07 08:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Good luck. Let us know how it goes.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose I [Re: triste]
    #7632496 - 11/13/07 08:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm feeling a strong sense of deja vu. I fucking swear this happened, I'm feeling a bit weird now, not tripping yet.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose I [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7632592 - 11/13/07 08:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hah, sounds kind of weird.

I've never tried HBWR seeds, but I have tried morning glory seeds with mixed results. Most of my experiments ended with me throwing up and not feeling anything, but I was successful on two occasions, and both times I enjoyed it as soon as I got over the nausea.

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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose I [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7632596 - 11/13/07 08:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm feeling a strong sense of deja vu.  I fucking swear this happened,  I'm feeling a bit weird now, not tripping yet.




Try thinking about it in this sense.

If you were a hologram and there's an innumerable amount of versions of yourself. All of them are definitley thinking alike, since they're you. Obviously, there's a connectivity with their thoughts, as again they're you.

Chances are you're feeling exactly what the "other you's" are and  there's a lot of them :rolleyes:.


This is called synchronicity, that will essentially give the essence of "deja vu."

Basically, all of you is enjoying this experience in some way or another right at this moment and that's a lot of people when you come to think of it.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose I [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
    #7636620 - 11/14/07 06:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Alright guys, sorry I didn't post during my trip but I was tripping WAY harder than I expected to, and my nausea was horrible even though I took 2 Dramamine's. I didn't throw up though, despite me bending over my toilet, nothing came out of my stomach.

Anyways, wow I don't even know where to start. It took about an hour to really hit me. When it did hit me a recurring theme of my family was brought up. It seems in all my trips that I'm reminded of how much I care for my family and all the amazing times in my childhood. I basically had a good amount of euphoria at first.

Of course things took a turn for the worse, I started to get a good deal of anxiety and went back into bed to lay down. I just wanted the trip to end, the nausea was overwhelming. I felt a connection to my last Salvia breakthrough experience, you know what I mean. I could go back to the same mindset I had on Salvia.

I could also access thoughts throughout my life more easily. I remembered dreams that I had as a kid that were profound to me, heavenly dreams. Also post-trip I keep getting deja-vu for whatever reason, in fact I just had it only minutes ago. I had many scary thoughts as well. Most involved dying and the halt of my existence in this physical realm and going crazy thinking I was going to be in this scary mind state forever.

Keep in mind I have indulged in a decent amount of powerful psychedelics such as Psilocybin and LSD. The thing about LSA though for me is that you can't really think positively because that part of your brain is blocked by this chemical, at least in my experience. With other indole molecules I could at least see that I was going to be fine no matter how crazy it got.

I would go on explaining my experience but it was more of a personal experience that explaining it wouldn't do any justice. What do you guys think? Can you relate to my experience? bump

edit: Most of the time spent tripping I was nestled in my sleeping bag with my pillow covering my head. It wasn't enjoyable at all. Start with low doses people. Peace


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose I [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7636638 - 11/14/07 06:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like it hit harder than you expected. My HBWR trip was quite euphoric throughout, even though I too bent over the toilet without puking at one point. Mushrooms usually give me more anxiety than I experienced from the seeds.

Did you get the Hawaiian strain? And how was your emotional state? And finally, did you smoke any herb? I smoked plenty and it added the perfect "glaze" to the trip.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose I [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7636650 - 11/14/07 06:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Sounds like it hit harder than you expected. My HBWR trip was quite euphoric throughout, even though I too bent over the toilet without puking at one point too.

Did you get the Hawaiian strain? And how was your emotional state? And finally, did you smoke any herb? I smoked plenty and it added the perfect "glaze" to the trip.




Yes I got the Hawaiian strain. My emotional state before the trip was quite good actually, excited to trip I guess. I didn't actually smoke herb because I'm on probation which sucks but oh well.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose I [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7637567 - 11/14/07 10:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like a good trip to me in a sense of the word. A valid one at least. :thumbup:


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose I [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7637585 - 11/14/07 10:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

HBWR makes me insane, period. I'm glad your trip was positive in most respects.

The first time I did 7 seeds, I didn't remove the coating (mmm, poison) and starting pulling at my pubic hair like I was reigning in a horse.

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    #7637619 - 11/14/07 10:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose I [Re: Mastamike1118]
    #7637625 - 11/14/07 10:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Wow, that coating must alter the character of the trip a lot. I removed it from mine when I ate seven and can't imagine having a trip like that from it.


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    #7637626 - 11/14/07 10:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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HBWR makes me insane, period. I'm glad your trip was positive in most respects.

The first time I did 7 seeds, I didn't remove the coating (mmm, poison) and starting pulling at my pubic hair like I was  reigning in a horse.

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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose I [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7637627 - 11/14/07 10:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry man but, that was funny.

I too have had some rough trips that I laughed at the same way in the end.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose I [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7637659 - 11/14/07 10:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

There's another good story where I gave 10 seeds ground up (coating included) to a female friend only to receive phone calls from angry guys that I had tried to kill her. I believe that it's arsenic in the seed coating, no?

To erowid I go.

Luckily those were the last trips before I shaved the coating off and started to really enjoy the LSA insanity without violent nausea.


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    #7637672 - 11/14/07 10:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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    #7637681 - 11/14/07 10:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Early in my Psychonaut-ing career, I indulged her in her quest get 'fucked up.' I never did favors like that again.

I told her it made you sick, I guess she thought that was a ruse.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose I [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7637713 - 11/14/07 11:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

That blows that your on probation because it is only herb which makes LSA trips tolerable for me....when I don't smoke I hardly trip and feel like shit - when I do smoke I feel absolutely amazing and trip for real. Strangely enough times when I don't smoke my pupils don't dilate but when I do smoke, they dilate as if mirroring how much I am tripping.

Good luck in the future. These seeds are sooooo mellow it's unbelievable - I hope you can experience them in their full glory someday.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds: LSA Question??? [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7637758 - 11/14/07 11:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Be careful about the temptation to take more early if you are not feeling what you expect. Those things take a while to kick in.

5 is probably a wise choice for a first try. If turns out to be a good dose for you then you have enough left for another trip later.

Good vibes to ya. :thumbup: :smile:




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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds: LSA Question??? [Re: pong]
    #7641037 - 11/15/07 06:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hey I'm back, yea I might indulge in these seeds again but next time, I dunno, what do you guys think I should do? I still have 5 seeds left, can you guys refer me to a decent extraction method that isn't hard? Next time I definitely don't wanna experience that nausea, it blowed. I had my head sandwiched in between my pillow the whole time. While having auditory hallucinations of a police siren. Lol I'm glad I learned something at least. bumpy, Peace and Love =)


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose I [Re: fazdazzle]
    #7641068 - 11/15/07 06:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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That blows that your on probation because it is only herb which makes LSA trips tolerable for me....when I don't smoke I hardly trip and feel like shit - when I do smoke I feel absolutely amazing and trip for real. Strangely enough times when I don't smoke my pupils don't dilate but when I do smoke, they dilate as if mirroring how much I am tripping.

Good luck in the future. These seeds are sooooo mellow it's unbelievable - I hope you can experience them in their full glory someday.




Yea my eyes were fully dilated, yea it sucks I can't have any ganja. I hope to experience the mellowness y'all speak of next time. If I wait a week will it be enough do you think?


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose I [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7641131 - 11/15/07 06:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hey so I thought I could ask a question here instead of making a new thread...

Is it true that if you don't properly remove the shell of HBWR then yuo can end up in the ER?


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    #7641348 - 11/15/07 07:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Hey so I thought I could ask a question here instead of making a new thread...

Is it true that if you don't properly remove the shell of HBWR then yuo can end up in the ER?




I didn't end up in the ER and I gobbled down the 5 seeds without any sort of extraction. However if you ate enough you probably could, but I don't think anyone in their right mind would take too high a dose as it would be extremely uncomfortable and not fun. However I don't know for sure, have you checked Erowid?


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose I [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7641401 - 11/15/07 07:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Like I said above, 7 seeds and no coating removal made me feel like dying, but it didn't happen. Pretty sure the coating is arsenic or cyanide. whatever it is, it's delicious!


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose I [Re: Crasher]
    #7641477 - 11/15/07 07:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Cyanide.

Reeferaddict, did you remove the coating on the seeds before you ate them? I really should have mentioned that, because if you didn't it explains why you had such discomfort... if you don't scrape off the outer layer of crap on the seeds, the body load is much worse.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose I [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7641569 - 11/15/07 07:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Cyanide.

Reeferaddict, did you remove the coating on the seeds before you ate them? I really should have mentioned that, because if you didn't it explains why you had such discomfort... if you don't scrape off the outer layer of crap on the seeds, the body load is much worse.




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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose I [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7641609 - 11/15/07 08:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm really sorry, I should have mentioned that...

Well, on the bright side, you should have a chiller trip next time. :laugh:


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose I [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7641650 - 11/15/07 08:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I had my first HBW trip a few days ago. I scraped the seeds and just ate them crushed up. I threw up at 20 minutes, wasn't too bad but definately sick. About half hour after that, I began to feel the waves of psychedelia. I smoked a very small bowl to help ease the nausea, then almost two hours after ingestion, I was feeling pretty good but not tripping too hard, then smoked a J with my friend. Then I had the bright idea of us splitting a 2-liter gravity bong of some DANKE blueberry I just grew. I think all the weed is what got me so high. But anyway, I just kept going higher and higher then it started getting kind of scary, my body was buzzing so hard and reality kept fading. I've never done exctasy, but my friend with me described his experience on it and it sounded very similar. About 3 hours after ingestion, I was convinced I was dying. Luckily my friend was there or maybe I wouldn't have made it. But eventually I realized that my body was in sleep mode, so I layed down in my bed for about 3-4 hours, conscious the whole time of every second and contemplating everything in existence, but most of the time just focused on not thinking, thinking hurt. It was somewhat similar to nitrious oxide, but lasted for about 6 hours and I was more conscious. A friend told me once that nitrous is like acid and E together, so I'd say it was like that. The trip was the worst experience I've ever had, thought I was going to die, but I did learn a lot from it, very connected to the other realms. I haven't decided if I"ll try them again....


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose I [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7641775 - 11/15/07 08:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Tchan909 said:
I'm really sorry, I should have mentioned that...

Well, on the bright side, you should have a chiller trip next time. :laugh:




Na man, it's my fault for jumping into it so fast without enough research.  Yea my next time should be better I hope.


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