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CNN warned to be gentle
#7630604 - 11/13/07 01:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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After raging at Tim Russert for daring to question her, Hillary Clinton's campaign is reportedly warning CNN's Wolf Blitzer to follow the pre-approved script.
Matt Drudge reports:
CNN's Wolf Blitzer has been warned not to focus Thursday's Dem debate on Hillary. 'This campaign is about issues, not on who we can bring down and destroy,' top Clinton insider explains. 'Blitzer should not go down to the levels of character attack and pull 'a Russert.'' Blitzer is set to moderate debate from Vegas, with questions also being posed by Suzanne Malveaux... Developing...
The irony is perfect. We learn of this gross intimidation on the very day NewsBusters' Tim Graham writes about the very subject.
What's disturbing here is that when the Bush admin engages in these types of actions (skewed questions and tough press handling), it provokes anger and resentment from the media. When Hillary Clinton does it, it provokes more adulation. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-sheffield/2007/11/13/hillarys-warning-blitzer
Unfuckingbelievable
could you imagine if Nixon was doing this!!!!
Clinton Inc. threatening the media, using college kids as plants, Chinese money laundering etc.....
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: lonestar2004]
#7630631 - 11/13/07 01:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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 'This campaign is about issues, not on who we can bring down and destroy,' top Clinton insider explains.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: lonestar2004]
#7630672 - 11/13/07 01:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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spot on
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: lonestar2004]
#7630673 - 11/13/07 01:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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CNN warned to be gentle
I hope they wear a condom too.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: lonestar2004]
#7631219 - 11/13/07 03:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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lonestar2004 said:
could you imagine if Nixon was doing this!!!!
Clinton Inc. threatening the media, using college kids as plants, Chinese money laundering etc.....
Hunter Thompson in Better Than Sex (how appropriate was THAT) said that the Clintons would make us beg for Nixon. And not because they were boring. These are super slick slimeballs, the worst of the worst, and they have a complete tin ear and disrespect for anything real people think. I hated people like them in college and I still do. Total phonies. That goes for Gore, Edwards and Kerry too, but not, in my opinion, Obama. Or Richardson. Biden and Dodd are on the dick list as well. Republican phonies? Thompson and McCain.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: zappaisgod]
#7631282 - 11/13/07 04:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Clinton seems to like pre-approved scripts and limited appropriate discussion topics...
I'm really sick of people empowering these political dynasties...
Bush, Clinton, Taft, et cet...
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: johnm214]
#7634351 - 11/14/07 10:27 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm convinced the Bush and Clinton family are frienemies.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: zappaisgod]
#7634873 - 11/14/07 12:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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HST (may he rest in peace) also said the following:
"Richard Nixon looks like a flaming liberal today, compared to a golem like George Bush. Indeed. Where is Richard Nixon now that we finally need him?"
"Nixon was a professional politician, and I despised everything he stood for -- but if he were running for president this year against the evil Bush-Cheney gang, I would happily vote for him."
Totally off topic but I can't resist an opportunity to share some Hunter pearls of wisdom.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: gluke bastid]
#7635096 - 11/14/07 01:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fuck, Bush has been acting like a liberal for years himself.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: zappaisgod]
#7635158 - 11/14/07 01:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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hahaha golem is a great word.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: zappaisgod]
#7635341 - 11/14/07 02:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Fuck, Bush has been acting like a liberal for years himself.
What has Bush ever done that hasn't been neo-conservative? He's a born again christian who believes in pre-emptive war and getting oil at any cost, and is oppossed to gay marriage, stem cell research, abortion, welfare, and social programs. Or as HST put it:
"Bush is a natural-born loser with a filthy-rich daddy who pimped his son out to rich oil-mongers. He hates music, football and sex, in no particular order, and he is no fun at all."
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: gluke bastid]
#7635395 - 11/14/07 02:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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> What has Bush ever done that hasn't been neo-conservative?
A better question is what has the Democrat Party led congress done that hasn't been neo-conservative?
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: Seuss]
#7635456 - 11/14/07 02:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Seuss said: > What has Bush ever done that hasn't been neo-conservative?
A better question is what has the Democrat Party led congress done that hasn't been neo-conservative?
Now that's not true at all. Take a look at Pelosi's list when it became evident she'd be the house speaker, she clearly laid out all the wonderous things democrats would do within 24 hours of taking over congress, and also things done w/in a week.
Now just look at all the progress!
Here I'll start the list of prmosises they've come through on...
um... I may need some help with this one
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: johnm214]
#7635640 - 11/14/07 03:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Medicare whorage. Signing all of those horrible spending bills.
You guys really have to separate the neo-con stuff from the budget stuff. Neo-con mostly refers to foreign policy. On spending he has been far too liberal. As was the Republican Congress, which was why they lost control. Why elect a Republican when he spends like a Democrat.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: zappaisgod]
#7635784 - 11/14/07 03:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: Seuss]
#7635812 - 11/14/07 03:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Seuss said: > What has Bush ever done that hasn't been neo-conservative?
A better question is what has the Democrat Party led congress done that hasn't been neo-conservative?
Why is that a better question? Why can't I attack Bush without people assuming that I have a hard-on for the democratic party? The DNC is a miserable lot of ineffectual yuppies, but I hate Bush 1 trillion times more.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: gluke bastid]
#7636136 - 11/14/07 05:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Seuss said: > What has Bush ever done that hasn't been neo-conservative?
A better question is what has the Democrat Party led congress done that hasn't been neo-conservative?
Why is that a better question? Why can't I attack Bush without people assuming that I have a hard-on for the democratic party? The DNC is a miserable lot of ineffectual yuppies, but I hate Bush 1 trillion times more.
It's a better question because the Dems were elected to put an end to the shit that the Bush administration has been up to.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: Redstorm]
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That is incorrect. The Dems won a small majority because the Republicans had turned into Dems on spending and the electorate needed to remind them of why they were elected in the first place.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: zappaisgod]
#7636711 - 11/14/07 06:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're forgetting that everyone hates the war.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: Redstorm]
#7636955 - 11/14/07 07:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Except they don't. Especially since we're winning.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: zappaisgod]
#7636989 - 11/14/07 07:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Except they don't. Especially since we're winning.
bahhh....
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: Syle]
#7637021 - 11/14/07 07:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Since the consensus here seems to be that I am the one bucking the tide of public opinion, I would be the least likely candidate for sheepdom, Bo Peep.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: zappaisgod]
#7637042 - 11/14/07 07:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Once again I find myself in agreement with Zappaisgod, especially after returning from Iraq not but three months ago.
no thread-jacking intended.
I hate Clinton.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: zappaisgod]
#7637065 - 11/14/07 07:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Since the consensus here seems to be that I am the one bucking the tide of public opinion, I would be the least likely candidate for sheepdom, Bo Peep.
no no, sorry, i edited my post because it was a retarded post on my part, and i just posted "bahhhhhh" because it was the first thing that came to mind.
sorry for the confusion.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: zappaisgod]
#7637296 - 11/14/07 08:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Show me one poll that shows a majority of respondents favoring the war.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: zappaisgod]
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yeah, Muqtada al Sadr is such a peaceful and progressive shiite. Iran has been conducting paramilitary aggression against the US and Iraq for over two years.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: zappaisgod]
#7637509 - 11/14/07 09:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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The US smartly took out the only buffer zone (Saddam) to keep the Shiia and Sunni divided, we tore down that proverbial wall and the Sunni-Shiia divide will split into various strife all over the middle east, and Irans grab at Iraq by using SCIRI,Dawa, and Sadr,they've implanted iranian quds and iran loyal paramilitary in the defense and interior ministry.
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Iran is the aggressor? If the Chinese military invaded Canada despite the fact that Canada didn't pose a threat to
single Chinese civilian, and Canadian resistance cells accepted U.S. financial & military aid in conducting operations against Chinese soldiers in Canada... would the U.S. be the aggressor?
If Canadian operatives were seeking training and outfitting from the US as Iraqi factions do from Iran, then yes, the united states would be 'an' aggressor, however not the sole contributing factor to a graduate degree level insurgency.
Having done area studies and deployed to Iraq, I will never find the prior 'regime' blameless in most capacities. its threat to the United States however, I will concede, is akin to Canada's threat against China. Damn Canucks.
I still hate Hillary, and I consider the recent 'falling of the flags' to be prophetic of our impending doom.
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Indeed, when I enlisted, there was this part about 'defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic..." It's harder to defend domestically, as much as I'd love to.
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LOL, I can hear the black helicopters outside now... prepare for re-education.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: Crasher]
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Either way you look at it their is impending doom in the air in my opinion. America sure has shat on itself for the past 20 years, we are only culminating on reaching our shit pinnacle and we are doing and damn good job in making sure that becomes a reality.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: gluke bastid]
#7638354 - 11/15/07 04:40 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Seuss said: > What has Bush ever done that hasn't been neo-conservative?
A better question is what has the Democrat Party led congress done that hasn't been neo-conservative?
Why is that a better question? Why can't I attack Bush without people assuming that I have a hard-on for the democratic party? The DNC is a miserable lot of ineffectual yuppies, but I hate Bush 1 trillion times more.
I'm not making any statement about you or any party that you support. Instead, I am trying to show that the problem America is facing has nothing to do with Bush, or any single party. The mindset of almost all politicians is neo-conservative. They all benefit from it and they all support it. The only real difference is how they behave on camera or in public. It is a good cop/bad cop routine where we, the people, lose and the politicians, regardless of party, win.
Mainstream media goes on and on about why that crazy Ron Paul is doing so well all the sudden... it is his anti-war stance, it is the moonbats, it is the spammers, it is the support from the extreme left and the extreme right... what they are missing is the simple truth... people, regardless of political party, are fed up with politicians looking out for politics first, corporations second, profit third, and the people... well, screw them.
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The_Red_Crayon said: Either way you look at it their is impending doom in the air in my opinion. America sure has shat on itself for the past 20 years, we are only culminating on reaching our shit pinnacle and we are doing and damn good job in making sure that becomes a reality.
Nonsense like this has been spouted by every generation since the founding of the nation and yet here we are, rich and powerful. It takes some serious narcissism to think that your generation is the least bit unique.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: zappaisgod]
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> It takes some serious narcissism to think that your generation is the least bit unique.
Well, 2012 only comes once...
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: Redstorm]
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said: Show me one poll that shows a majority of respondents favoring the war.
Why? You said this:
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You're forgetting that everyone hates the war.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: zappaisgod]
#7638383 - 11/15/07 05:20 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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It was an exaggeration, but not far off. I haven't seen one poll which showed a majority of favorable opinion about the war.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: Redstorm]
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Which is drastically different from "everybody" isn't it. Funny about those polls, isn't it? People go on the information they are given. The Iraq war has almost been driven completely off the front page of the NYTimes. Must be going well, because you know if it wasn't they would be all over it.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said: The Iraq war has almost been driven completely off the front page of the NYTimes. Must be going well, because you know if it wasn't they would be all over it.
The media has two choices on Iraq at the moment:
Report good news or Don't talk about Iraq at all.....
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: lonestar2004]
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Fuck polloganda. Show me a poll that reflects a properly diversified group of people as data.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: Crasher]
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Hasn't there actually been a pretty big dip in violence in Iraq lately?
I'm not in favor of the war and I guess I consider myself a pretty liberal person.. but even I admit that the media tends to ignore the good and only reports the bad.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: BrAiN]
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not entirely, CNN had an article on the front page yesterday about the sinking american death tolls.
I'm not sure what other measures of success they can report.
have there been major infrastructural improvements in iraq that haven't been reported?
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: afoaf]
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: BrAiN]
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> Hasn't there actually been a pretty big dip in violence in Iraq lately?
Short term trends mean littler. This year, so far, has had more US troop deaths than any other year in Iraq.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: Seuss]
#7639400 - 11/15/07 11:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm talking more of the overall deaths.... not just U.S. soldiers but everyone.. civilians mostly. It just seems like the past few months has seen less bombings in pulic places..
at least ... i havent' seen them reported much
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: BrAiN]
#7639888 - 11/15/07 01:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Seuss is correct about the whole year but the results of the surge, which has only been in effect for half of the year, have been impressive. Bombings in Baghdad overall and civilian murders are way down and life is getting back to normal.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: zappaisgod]
#7639932 - 11/15/07 02:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Again.. not I'm for the war but..
Iraq may end up being a semi-normal state within the next couple of years... who knows.
Lebanon was a mess in the early 80's and ended up having a descent amount of stability for 20 years until Hariri(sp?) got blown to pieces... shit and Lebanon is STILL the only place in the mid east i'd probably ever wanting to visit.
It would be interesting if Iraq decided to finally settle down a bit JUST in time for the next election.
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: BrAiN]
#7644622 - 11/16/07 03:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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looks like CNN/Wolf got the message...
CNN screened and gave out questions at the debate
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/11/diamond_v_pearl_student_blasts_1.php
"Diamond v. Pearl" Student Blasts CNN (Updated With CNN Response) 16 Nov 2007 11:21 am
Maria Luisa, the UNLV student who asked Hillary Clinton whether she preferred "diamonds or pearls" at last night's debate wrote on her MySpace page this morning that CNN forced her to ask the frilly question instead of a pre-approved query about the Yucca Mountain nuclear waste repository.
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Edited by lonestar2004 (11/16/07 03:02 PM)
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