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InvisibleMiddlemanM

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Re: Why You Can't Trust Your Brain [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7632304 - 11/13/07 07:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Tchan909 said:

This should really be called the Semantics Forum.




Right, with a "SCIENTIFICALLY PROVABLE SPIRITUALITY ONLY" disclaimer.  :smirk:


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InvisibleDiploidM
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Re: Why You Can't Trust Your Brain [Re: Middleman]
    #7632327 - 11/13/07 07:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Not the physical heart itself

You're a moving target! I can't keep up with your changing definitions.


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: Why You Can't Trust Your Brain [Re: Diploid]
    #7632340 - 11/13/07 07:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

heart (härt) pronunciation
n.

1. Anatomy.
1. The chambered muscular organ in vertebrates that pumps blood received from the veins into the arteries, thereby maintaining the flow of blood through the entire circulatory system.
2. A similarly functioning structure in invertebrates.
2. The area that is the approximate location of the heart in the body; the breast.
3.
1. The vital center and source of one's being, emotions, and sensibilities.
2. The repository of one's deepest and sincerest feelings and beliefs: an appeal from the heart; a subject dear to her heart.
3. The seat of the intellect or imagination: the worst atrocities the human heart could devise.
4.
1. Emotional constitution, basic disposition, or character: a man after my own heart.
2. One's prevailing mood or current inclination: We were light of heart.
5.
1. Capacity for sympathy or generosity; compassion: a leader who seems to have no heart.
2. Love; affection: The child won my heart.
6.
1. Courage; resolution; fortitude: The soldiers lost heart and retreated.
2. The firmness of will or the callousness required to carry out an unpleasant task or responsibility: hadn't the heart to send them away without food.
7. A person esteemed or admired as lovable, loyal, or courageous: a dear heart.
8.
1. The central or innermost physical part of a place or region: the heart of the financial district. See synonyms at center.
2. The core of a plant, fruit, or vegetable: hearts of palm.
9. The most important or essential part: get to the heart of the matter.


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Re: Why You Can't Trust Your Brain [Re: Middleman]
    #7636521 - 11/14/07 05:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Middleman said:
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Veritas said:
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Middleman said:
In my view, Mysticism is approached from the heart not the brain, yet free of emotion or attachment. 




How, exactly, do you approach an intangible subject without using your brain?  Or are you metaphorically expressing the difference between reason and emotion--BOTH of which are functions of the brain?  If so, how would a "heart" approach not involve emotion?  :confused:

We interpret the world through input received by our body (senses), and our brain is the interpreter.  We use our imagination to envision what we cannot sense, and our brain does the imagining.  The dance between sensation, emotion & reason is ever-present, whether we are considering mysticism or pure logic.




I experience the intangible by being simply being (aware of) it.

In my understanding, the limbic system is the seat of emotion, the heart is the seat of "Awareness" or "Being".

There is a kind of understanding that transcends logic, reason, and emotional response.

The brain is not the mind...




So you are claiming that we have awareness which is separate from our brain?  The brain is not the mind, but the mind does not exist without it.  Are you saying that the physical heart is the seat of awareness, or that there is a non-physical, metaphorical heart which possesses an awareness that would continue if our brain was removed?

Sounds like mumbo-jumbo to me.  :shrug:


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Re: Why You Can't Trust Your Brain [Re: Veritas]
    #7636530 - 11/14/07 06:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

IMO it is mumbo jumbo. No brain = dead person = no posts about mind.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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