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OfflineChemical_Smile
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Sedatives and psychadelics?
    #762805 - 07/20/02 06:59 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Ok I think too much. I cant turn my mind off and just experience no matter how hard I try. I have gone head to head with the mushrooms and held it together, sort of slapped them called them a little bitch and challenged them to stop me from thinking, I won.
Winning isnt always nice though, I constantly annalyse why I am doing things and why they are supposed to be enjoyable and life can become very meaningless that way. I have never taken a realy high dose because Im afraid that my antagonistic mind would get me hurt if I tried to bitch slaps mushie's big brother.
I am wondering about taking some sort of sedative while tripping so that I can knock that part of my mind that analyzes out cold and let the rest of my brain enjoy itself for once. What do you think? What would be the right sort of sedative to use? Zanex and shit like that doesnt phase me. It would take a chemical baseball bat to take out that part of my brain.
Sorry for such a long post but I realy need some help with this one.


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Re: Sedatives and psychadelics? [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #762837 - 07/20/02 07:15 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

What does smokin bud do to you?


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Re: Sedatives and psychadelics? [Re: Poopman]
    #762852 - 07/20/02 07:23 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Not much. It occasionaly ads paranoia but my supercharged mushroom logic just dismisses it. I want absolutely no iner dialogue if that is possible. Logic is like a prison to me lately.


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Re: Sedatives and psychadelics? [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #762908 - 07/20/02 07:47 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I think I should add that logic might not be the right word for what I want to get rid of.

Lately the greatest part of my life is when I am asleep. It gives me that much needed break from thinking about all of my problems and feeling overwhelmed/bitter/angry/frustrated. My dreams can be bad but they can also be amazing. They are logical but the part of my mind that is me when Im awake simply witnesses these dreams instead of constructing them. Even my bad dreams are simply witnessed and bearable. That part of me that creates my dreams is a hell of alot more stable (i think) than my waking life mind. If I could let him be the designated driver of my mushroom ship that would be cool by me. Without some sort of sedative though I dont think I can prevent that other asshole from taking the wheel instead.

Or mayby I shouldnt say asshole, it might just be that that part of me is just worn out and starting to get confused and cranky. Someone else needs to handle things for a while so he can rest.


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Re: Sedatives and psychadelics? [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #763829 - 07/21/02 06:27 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I want absolutely no iner dialogue if that is possible. Logic is like a prison to me lately.

Meditate long and hard. It's the only way to get rid of the inner dialogue, unless you do have a huge supply of sedatives. BUST OUT OF THE PRISON MAN!!


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Re: Sedatives and psychadelics? [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #763935 - 07/21/02 07:57 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

That's a tough one, I suffer from pretty much the same thing.......I can't even get to sleep at night no matter HOW tired I am unless I have a few brewskies to knock me out......the thing with any kind of sedative/downer is that it will really cut into your alien dream time whilst shrooming...... as well as cut down the visuals and the heightened sense of awareness. Meditation seems to be pretty good for stilling the inner dialogue. It isn't so much stilling it as taking on the capacity of "the observer" and witnessing the thoughts without associating with them and generating all the emotional energy that association entails......if you ever do find a way to quiet your mind pls don't hesitate to PM me and let me know......Peace


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Re: Sedatives and psychadelics? [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #763994 - 07/21/02 08:39 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Sedatives and psychadelics? [Re: badjessejames]
    #764369 - 07/21/02 12:25 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Cool link, I had read that before but forgotten about it. That sounds like something I should give a try but not exactly what Im looking for with this post. It makes sense that you retain alot more insight with the lower doses and benzos. A higher dose by itself is like 20 different teachers screeming at you at once. They might all have something important to say but if they dont calm down and speak one at a time you wont learn shit.
The thing is Im not trying to go to school with shrooms like usual I want a vacation instead. I want to be one of those people that sits there and goes "wow look at the colors".
Say your taking one of those jungle tour boats through shroom land, the people that are going wow look at that neat purple elephant are having a fun relaxing time. I on the other hand am going nuts, "why is he purple?" " how does his being purple affect his intamacy with others?" " Is my soul purple?" "If he was missing a leg then that would be aproximately 1ton less purple so would this lessening of purple have a negative affect on his self worth?"


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Re: Sedatives and psychadelics? [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #788696 - 07/31/02 04:54 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I still havent found any drug that can disable specific parts of the mind. Im tired of analysing beauty, it always dissapears under a microscope. I realy need to be able to just see and feel but not question. People mentioned the post about benzos and I saw that bumped so I decided to do likewise. If you have any advice or something as simple as "hey man, you should look into ___" I would greatly appreciate it.


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