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ngnyus
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I.D. Request? updated again with better pics and one new guy, please help!
#7622382 - 11/11/07 03:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Today I went walking on my property, and found these; (sorry my camera's messing up the colors aren't quite true)
Sorry, I picked most of them instead of cutting, but I wanted to show how clustered they were, edit.. also forgot to mention they were right in an area I threw all my woodloving spores last year when I quit growing
Habitat; Growing gregariously under rotting oak log (edit although under oak it was growing in a mix of pine oak and madrone litter) nearly buried in leaf litter
Gills; Cinnamon brown turning black
Stem; white, hollow, no noticable blueing
Cap; Dark brown, ~1"1/4 on average, flat, vellar remain looks like cobwebs on very young
Spore print; Brown/purple
Bruising; none noticed
Location; Northern california foothills
Habitat; Growing from the side of a fallen log
Gills: White
Stem;White slightly fuzzy, off to one side
Cap; very light tan 2-4 inches
Spore print; white
Bruising; none
Location; northern california foothills
And I just found this guy
Habitat; solitary in wooded clearing
Gills; white
Stem; white with ring
Cap; light cream with warts and vellar remains on edges
Sporeprint; not taken, but it's some type of amanita, thus white
Bruising; none
Location, northern Cali foothills
Thanks for any help in advance, I also found a couple boletus edulis, but they already went into the frying pan!
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Edited by ngnyus (11/11/07 06:18 PM)
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LouiseLouise
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Re: I.D. Request? update [Re: ngnyus]
#7622485 - 11/11/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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For #1: you said spore print: brown. Is it deep purple brown? In the photo the spores look dark on the caps. Are the gills connected to the stem?
#2 get that print, you want white.
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Edited by LouiseLouise (11/11/07 03:52 PM)
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ngnyus
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Question #1, yes they are purplish brown, and not attached to stem Question# 2 White!
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Edited by ngnyus (11/11/07 03:55 PM)
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Re: I.D. Request? update [Re: ngnyus]
#7622525 - 11/11/07 03:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey there. That's a pretty massive cluster ya got there! As Louise said, the print does look like it has some purple in it. If so, you got some type of hyphloma. If the print is in fact brown, then I'm not so sure what it is. Number 2 is some type of pleurotus or something very similar. What type of tree were they growing on? And congrats on the boletes.
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landsnorkler
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#1=hypholoma #2=pleurotus, or similar. Possibly pleurotus ostreatus.
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ngnyus
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I don't think there hypholoma, I found some hypholoma fasciculare (very yellowish) growing within a meter of these and took a print, it came out much darker, but that might just be because of the cap I took it from, and aren't hypholoma gills either yellow, gray or greenish, these were definitely cinnamon brown? Yeah I was pretty sure #2 was oysters, but it's always good to get a second opinion, thanks!.
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Edited by ngnyus (11/11/07 04:12 PM)
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Re: I.D. Request? update [Re: ngnyus]
#7622572 - 11/11/07 04:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, it is hard to tell! They have that very strong cluster growth that is characteristic of hypholoma, and I can tell what they are not.
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landsnorkler
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Hard to tell. Get a pic of the base of the stem if it's not shredded up. Could be Amanita Muscaria var. formosa.
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Re: I.D. Request? update [Re: ngnyus]
#7622999 - 11/11/07 06:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks like amanita gemmata. Nothing you'd want to eat there.
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ngnyus
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Re: I.D. Request? update [Re: Drewwyann]
#7623085 - 11/11/07 06:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Aren't amanita gemmata along the same lines as A. muscaria?
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Re: I.D. Request? update [Re: ngnyus]
#7623207 - 11/11/07 07:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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yes, but minus the chemicals that make you trip and plus chemicals that make you sick.
don't eat it!
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cactu
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Re: I.D. Request? update [Re: faceofbear]
#7623745 - 11/11/07 09:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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1- stropharia sp. 2- pleurotus ostreatus. 3- amanita gemmnata i second that 4- i like the laberinth all my best
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Re: I.D. Request? update [Re: cactu]
#7624046 - 11/11/07 11:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hmm, that amanita you have looks exactly like the ones I found, which I thought were Gemmata too. Just about everywhere I have read has stated that Gemmata is active, why wouldnt you want to consume it if it were prepared properly?
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Re: I.D. Request? update [Re: shroomsam]
#7624072 - 11/11/07 11:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wouldn't eat any Amanita without being 110% certain of what species it is. No trip is worth the risk of liver failure and death.
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Re: I.D. Request? update [Re: rainlover]
#7624116 - 11/11/07 11:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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True, which is why they are still sitting, and Ive been looking at every source available to id them. So far, all points to Gemmata. But I thought it would be good to get the opinion of those on here, seeing that many of you are experienced in mushroom identification. You can never have too much input.
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Re: I.D. Request? update [Re: cactu]
#7625057 - 11/12/07 10:16 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
cactu said: 1- stropharia sp. 2- pleurotus ostreatus. 3- amanita gemmnata i second that 4- i like the laberinth all my best
you sure those are ostreatus, and not some other kind of variety? With such a long and defined stipe like that.
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ngnyus
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Re: I.D. Request? update [Re: snoot]
#7627170 - 11/12/07 06:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pretty sure they are ostreatus according to my field guide some do have a rather pronounced stipe, even more than what these were,... and they were GOOD!
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cactu
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Re: I.D. Request? update [Re: ngnyus]
#7627668 - 11/12/07 07:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
snoot said:
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cactu said: 1- stropharia sp. 2- pleurotus ostreatus. 3- amanita gemmnata i second that 4- i like the laberinth all my best
you sure those are ostreatus, and not some other kind of variety? With such a long and defined stipe like that.
maybe you have not seen much ostreatus with long stipe , too bad ,sometime they grow from deep in a crack in the log, also the stipe can vary for many condition weak light,humidity, but for more the i look i even get to see the oyster look of the cap, this remind me what David Arora said in mushrooms demystified in page 22 (1) IT IS THE MUSHROOM¨S FAULT: mushrooms have not seen pictures or description of themselves,......... http://books.google.com.mx/books?id=86tM01VsFG0C&pg=PA43&ots=45Xds2BbpK&dq=mushrooms+that+grow+on+dung&sig=TQGEtBAwDgvb1Eh59PiR1ug1yXk#PPA22,M1
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