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Seattle ID help
    #7626633 - 11/12/07 04:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hi,

I was just out hunting in a public park in Seattle and came upon some little guys that I *think* I know what they are, but I wanted to get some expert opinions before doing the happy dance.








Habitat: woodchips and grass around the base of a tree in a park

Gills: light brown gills (see picture)

Stem: white/light brown. Dries to whiteish with blue stains

Cap: light brown, 1-2 inches in diameter

Spore print color: dark gray

Bruising: bruises blue, particularly when dry

Location: Picked in Seattle

Thanks for your help!

--Derek


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Re: Seattle ID help [Re: derekja]
    #7626718 - 11/12/07 04:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The mushrooms in the first pics don't look like psilocybes to me, however that last pic of the stem shows deffinite blueing. Could you have picked a mixed batch?


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Re: Seattle ID help [Re: derekja]
    #7626728 - 11/12/07 04:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The bluing stem you have there says to me 'Psilocybe Cyanescens!!!" but the second picture up says to me, 'what did this guy pick?'

These mushrooms definately don't look like your typical wavy caps, but the blue stem is throwing me way off here. Wish i could help here.

I think he picked a mix of mushrooms as well. The stems on wavy caps should be white whenever i you first pick them (or stained blue), and the caps shouldn't be striate (correct term?) like that. They have a more solid look to them.

The second picture up is definately not cyan though. I don't know what it is, but I've heard reports of people finding deadly galerinas growing along side cyanescens, so be careful of what you've got there.


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Re: Seattle ID help [Re: derekja]
    #7626734 - 11/12/07 04:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You need to take spore prints, those look more like Galerinas to me.


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Re: Seattle ID help [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #7626744 - 11/12/07 05:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yes. Derekja, make sure you print every cap too. Because I'm positive you have some different species mixed in there.


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Re: Seattle ID help [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7626763 - 11/12/07 05:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks, all.

I believe I do indeed have a mixed batch. The blue stem comes from one I picked yesterday and printed as dark gray, but the fresh ones in the picture that I picked today (from the base of the same tree) look to be printing light brown.

Putting the rest of the caps on the paper now...


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Re: Seattle ID help [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7626764 - 11/12/07 05:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i guess so mixed species but , your find are some how rare , i wish you could post more pictures and of the spore prints,


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Re: Seattle ID help [Re: cactu]
    #7627270 - 11/12/07 06:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The one's with orange stems are Tubaria.

The last pic could be a Psilocybe stipe, but not sure.


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Re: Seattle ID help [Re: jet li]
    #7627973 - 11/12/07 09:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The first four pictures are Tubaria furfuracea.

The veil remnants near the cap margin confirm that it is furfuracea and not another Tubaria species.

The last picture of a stem is turning very blue, probably a Psilocybe stem.


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Re: Seattle ID help [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7627990 - 11/12/07 09:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Praise the almighty Alan!!!


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Re: Seattle ID help [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7627991 - 11/12/07 09:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I've seen Galerinas that look like the first picture of his post. Galerina autumnalis i believe. Be careful and don't eat anything that doesn't turn blue.


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Re: Seattle ID help [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #7629734 - 11/13/07 10:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well sadly every single one of the mushrooms I collected yesterday printed out light brown. The two on the upper right are the ones I collected 2 days ago whose stems turned blue (which printed dark gray, I still don't know what they are..)

On the downside, my quest continues and I won't be eating any of these mushrooms. On the upside, I now know how to identify Tubaria furfuracea!

Thanks for all your help. This board is a great resource.



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Re: Seattle ID help [Re: derekja]
    #7629961 - 11/13/07 11:25 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

can you post a picture of the under side of the cap in the right with blue in stems and caps. those are the only psilocybe i guess.


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Re: Seattle ID help [Re: cactu]
    #7630075 - 11/13/07 11:46 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Sure. I'm no longer even convinced by those. Is blueing alone enough to conclude psilocybe? The colors in the second picture are off because I used an incandescent light rather than the flash to make the gill texture stand out...





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Re: Seattle ID help [Re: derekja]
    #7631176 - 11/13/07 03:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

> Is blueing alone enough to conclude psilocybe?

Bluing alone isn't enough, but bluing and dark spores is enough.

The color of the gills is correct for Psilocybe and there is plenty of bluing on the cap.


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Re: Seattle ID help [Re: derekja]
    #7631190 - 11/13/07 03:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, your blue ones (the two in the upper right) are either cyans or cyanofibrillosa.  They're a little beat up to figure out which but Psilocybes without a doubt.
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Re: Seattle ID help [Re: @cro]
    #7632564 - 11/13/07 08:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

At first, I thought they were P. Stunzii. Spore prints definetly say otherwise though. The blue ones look like cyans because stunziis don't blue that much. I dunno, majority look like Galerinas to me.


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Re: Seattle ID help [Re: Pregnant Man]
    #7633350 - 11/13/07 11:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If Alan says they are Tubaria furfuracea then that is what they are!


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Re: Seattle ID help [Re: rainlover]
    #7633635 - 11/14/07 01:56 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Go on, eat the blue ones. Well, find at least one more, then eat all three for a nice afternoon.


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