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Slimz
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Spawning to flour
#7626020 - 11/12/07 02:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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ok .. here is the question, could one spawn a BRF cake to BRF? just to up the eventual yield?
POO is not to be mentioned.. i know all about Poo,, and Straw too, read all about that .. im asking if a BRF cake can be spawned to (sterile) BRF
Im assuming that the BRF spawn material will also be a mix of BRF, verm, and water...
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Re: Spawning to flour [Re: Slimz]
#7626045 - 11/12/07 02:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's a grain to grain transfer, a common procedure. The problem with brf is the logistics of doing it. I suggest injecting some sterilized water into the cake, letting it sit for a few minutes, and then drawing it back out again. If you use filter disks or tyvek in place of a vermiulite filter, you can simply spoon from the master jar into each receiving jar. Use a glovebox or laminar flow hood. RR
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Slimz
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Hrm i was thinking more like for spawning to a tray and casing with verm...
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Re: Spawning to flour [Re: Slimz]
#7626340 - 11/12/07 03:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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so you mean mix up a load of verm with brf and then crumble some cakes and add to the other mix (sterilised) covered up a bit longer to colonise then put that into the fc as a casing thats food for thought like one big cake so in effect your casing the cakrs but instead of spawning to poo your giving them more of the same nutrients go for it i say be interesting
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Re: Spawning to flour [Re: grandesign]
#7629055 - 11/13/07 06:40 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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YEah.. thats EXACTLY the question... but i want to know if its sounds like its gonna work, or if its gonna suck...
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Re: Spawning to flour [Re: Slimz]
#7629110 - 11/13/07 07:08 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sorry man in my opinion the chances of that working are pretty low. Your BRF would contam before the myc has a chance to colonise it completly, considering how easly BRF contams even in jars, imagine what would happen if you had a tray of pasturised or sterilised BRF, it would be a bacteria and mold heaven.
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Re: Spawning to flour [Re: kocos]
#7629130 - 11/13/07 07:15 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was about to say the same thing, brf is perfect food for many fungus and bacteria u dont want.
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Slimz
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ok so other than poo and straw and poo /w straw and worm castings, is there anything else to spawn too?
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Re: Spawning to flour [Re: Slimz]
#7629214 - 11/13/07 07:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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coir
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Slimz
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a though coir was not nutritious.. thought that was for casing?
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Re: Spawning to flour [Re: Slimz]
#7629224 - 11/13/07 07:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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People have used coir to bulk up subs, ur right in that they arnt nutritios, imo they act something like a rezeffect would. It doesnt however compare to poop, nothing beats horse manure.
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Re: Spawning to flour [Re: kocos]
#7629229 - 11/13/07 07:54 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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but you get more when ya spawn to coir? ? (that rhymes)
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Re: Spawning to flour [Re: Slimz]
#7629230 - 11/13/07 07:54 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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That is what we used to think, but coir is used as a substrate nowadays.
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Re: Spawning to flour [Re: Slimz]
#7629231 - 11/13/07 07:55 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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its great to spawn too. people have excellent luck with it all the time.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=subtrates&Number=6004845&fpart=&PHPSESSID=
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Slimz
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I was just confused because people case with coir in place of verm and people always call casing spawning and spawning casing in here so i was just misled on this subject...
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Re: Spawning to flour [Re: kocos]
#7629242 - 11/13/07 08:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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kocos said: People have used coir to bulk up subs, ur right in that they arnt nutritios, imo they act something like a rezeffect would. It doesnt however compare to poop, nothing beats horse manure.
this is not true. coir is a great fungi food. and their are alot of people on here that would say coir and poo are very comparitive. read some growlogs. now poo and coir, watch the hell out.
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Slimz
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see im not the only one who is confused about coir....
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Iam sure people have gotten great results, i was just posting what i have seen, and experienced. From what i have seen and done thus far, manure has led to far better results, with multiple strains, which leads me to belive that manure is superiour to coir.
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Re: Spawning to flour [Re: kocos]
#7629265 - 11/13/07 08:07 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Slimz
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Re: Spawning to flour [Re: Slimz]
#7629271 - 11/13/07 08:08 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Slimz said: ok .. here is the question, could one spawn a BRF cake to BRF? just to up the eventual yield?
its theoretically possible, but contamination would be VERY hard to control
But it seems that coir is my answer..
Im off to the pet store... (well maybe after work)
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