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MarioTrip
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Success with monotubs without a casing layer? *DELETED*
#7625898 - 11/12/07 02:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Post deleted by MarioTrip<p>Reason for deletion: fuck you?
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Edited by MarioTrip (09/07/08 02:06 PM)
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Re: Success with monotubs without a casing layer? [Re: MarioTrip]
#7625913 - 11/12/07 02:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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It works, with varying results. Without a casing layer, it might take a little more work to get the moisture level correct.
With a casing layer, it truly allows you to set-forget.
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Re: Success with monotubs without a casing layer? [Re: zathan]
#7625957 - 11/12/07 02:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I thought the moisture content in the rye jars and horse manure is already correct?
If not I'll just make 50/50+.
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Re: Success with monotubs without a casing layer? [Re: MarioTrip]
#7625960 - 11/12/07 02:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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^ jars and horse manure being from Mycopath that is.
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Re: Success with monotubs without a casing layer? [Re: MarioTrip]
#7625988 - 11/12/07 02:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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To initiate pinning, you really need as close to 100% humidity as you can get, the casing being wet allows you to easily achieve this on top of the substrate. When he says the moisture might need work, he means the humidity in there might not be enough to get things pinning properly, whereas with a cased substrate it is much easier to keep it at good humidity for pinning.
You can get good pinning without a casing layer though, lay down wax paper on top of the substrate, this will act like a casing layer and keep humidity against the substrate at near 100%
Lift the paper and fan once a day, replace paper every 3 days or so. Paper will contaminate if left soaking for a week or more in stale air.
I do not case bulk coir/manure most of the time, and generally have good results using this style. You will get bigger fruits with a casing layer though, the case does provide extra water during growth.
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Re: Success with monotubs without a casing layer? [Re: urayasan]
#7626007 - 11/12/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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How many quarts of 50/50+ mix would you say I'd need to make?
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Re: Success with monotubs without a casing layer? [Re: MarioTrip]
#7626040 - 11/12/07 02:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hard to say without the dimensions of the tub, maybe 2 quarts per tub? Maybe 3? Somewhere around there... doesn't need to be very thick.
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Re: Success with monotubs without a casing layer? [Re: urayasan]
#7626046 - 11/12/07 02:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I was thinking around 3 myself.
24 x 12 x 18
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Re: Success with monotubs without a casing layer? [Re: MarioTrip]
#7626093 - 11/12/07 02:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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No casing layer:
Edited by jeetered (11/12/07 02:48 PM)
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Re: Success with monotubs without a casing layer? [Re: jeetered]
#7626125 - 11/12/07 02:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lovely! What were the dimensions on that tube Jeet?
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Re: Success with monotubs without a casing layer? [Re: MarioTrip]
#7626154 - 11/12/07 03:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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10 gallon tub, just the standard sterilite tub.
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Re: Success with monotubs without a casing layer? [Re: jeetered]
#7626187 - 11/12/07 03:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I will do half cased and the other half un-cased and see how that goes
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Re: Success with monotubs without a casing layer? [Re: MarioTrip]
#7626285 - 11/12/07 03:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
MarioTrip said: I will do half cased and the other half un-cased and see how that goes
Now that's the spirit! Make sure to document how it goes.
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Re: Success with monotubs without a casing layer? [Re: MarioTrip]
#7626303 - 11/12/07 03:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
MarioTrip said: I will do half cased and the other half un-cased and see how that goes
Why are you going through all of the trouble of proper technique and then half assing the casing?
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Re: Success with monotubs without a casing layer? [Re: derx]
#7626410 - 11/12/07 03:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have heard some people in IRC having great success with monotubs without a casing layer and thought I should try it.
Sounds easy enough: Dump the colonized rye with the horse manure (1:3 ratio), wait to colonize, fruit those babies
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Re: Success with monotubs without a casing layer? [Re: MarioTrip]
#7626419 - 11/12/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Casing layers increase your chances at a more even pinset and provide a nice microclimate to primordia. Its not required.
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Re: Success with monotubs without a casing layer? [Re: Fraggin]
#7626426 - 11/12/07 03:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Even pinset = higher yields?
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Re: Success with monotubs without a casing layer? [Re: MarioTrip]
#7626438 - 11/12/07 03:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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even pinset = shrooms growing at the same time and rate. instead of having 22 bigass monsters 30 medium guys, 100 little ones and possibly a sporey mess all over the place.....
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Re: Success with monotubs without a casing layer? [Re: Fraggin]
#7626461 - 11/12/07 03:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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In my other montubs I have done in the past (with casing) I waited to harvest until the caps were opened, sometimes spores everywhere but never saw a problem with this.
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Re: Success with monotubs without a casing layer? [Re: MarioTrip]
#7626951 - 11/12/07 05:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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The only problem I have with it is getting them under my fingernails.
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