Home | Community | Message Board

Original Seeds Store
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Topicals   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
Offlinebudsmoke
Resident Rukus
Registered: 09/27/07
Posts: 391
Last seen: 11 years, 5 days
possible gymnopilus
    #7625301 - 11/12/07 11:28 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Habitat: Wood - Found on decaying tree stump

Gills: light brown, the gills are free.

Stem: Whitish, pretty fragile.

Cap: Brown to gray, smooth, large.

Spore print color: being taken

Bruising: Hard to tell, if there is bruising, it is a rusty color

Location: Picked in north eastern Mass, USA


A found a ton of these on a decaying stump. About 2 feet away was a GIANT patch of what looked like a smaller, more orange shaded version. They were in a bunch and there was probably 80-100 of them. I'm thinking they might have been immature versions of this, becasue theye were mostly not open yet.









Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineakb112211
Stranger

Registered: 09/10/07
Posts: 852
Loc: UKUSANetherlands
Last seen: 9 years, 2 months
Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: budsmoke]
    #7625331 - 11/12/07 11:35 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Looks like a blewit. Genus Clitocybe or Lepista perhaps. Should have a white spore print.


--------------------
"There never was and never will be,
Nor is there now,
The wholly criticized
Or the wholly approved"


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePolecat
Tuga


Registered: 11/06/03
Posts: 147
Loc: Casa do Sino
Last seen: 8 years, 2 months
Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: akb112211]
    #7625793 - 11/12/07 01:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yep, second that. by the pics I would even bet nuda


--------------------
www.cogumelosportugal.forum-livre.com


O Caos é uma Ordem por decifrar.
Chaos is Order yet to decipher.

Jose Saramago


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinebudsmoke
Resident Rukus
Registered: 09/27/07
Posts: 391
Last seen: 11 years, 5 days
Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: Polecat]
    #7626101 - 11/12/07 02:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yup, print is white, thanks


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineHotnuts
old hand
 User Gallery

Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 3,436
Loc: Wild Blue Yawnder
Last seen: 25 days, 12 hours
Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: akb112211]
    #7648901 - 11/17/07 08:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

akb112211 said:
Looks like a blewit. Genus Clitocybe or Lepista perhaps. Should have a white spore print.




Blewit's don't have white spore deposits. A true Blewit has almost an orange sherbert colored print.


Edited by Hotnuts (11/17/07 08:26 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblecactu
culture and magic
Male

Registered: 03/06/06
Posts: 3,913
Loc: mexicoelcentrodelconocimi...
Trusted Identifier
Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: Hotnuts]
    #7648978 - 11/17/07 08:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

lepista nuda have creamy spores. those are maybe armillarea blewit dont grow on a log they grow in the ground , maybe armillarea tabescens.


--------------------

cuando una rafaga del pensamiento nos pasa  al lado se puede sentir  que valio  la pena  haber vivido, y cuando ese pensamiento se  convierte en sueño no paramos de soñar hasta realizarlo


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineHotnuts
old hand
 User Gallery

Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 3,436
Loc: Wild Blue Yawnder
Last seen: 25 days, 12 hours
Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: cactu]
    #7649036 - 11/17/07 08:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

They can be found on stumps with a severe decay as well.

What you have there looks like a Blewit to me. I'm guessing you didn't allow the cap sufficient time to print properly.

Here's what the Blewit's print looks like.


[image][/image]


Edited by Hotnuts (11/17/07 08:55 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblecactu
culture and magic
Male

Registered: 03/06/06
Posts: 3,913
Loc: mexicoelcentrodelconocimi...
Trusted Identifier
Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: Hotnuts]
    #7649068 - 11/17/07 09:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

:thumbup: yes is a tricky color , hope it be a blewit is more worth it ,


--------------------

cuando una rafaga del pensamiento nos pasa  al lado se puede sentir  que valio  la pena  haber vivido, y cuando ese pensamiento se  convierte en sueño no paramos de soñar hasta realizarlo


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesnoot
look alive ∞
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 01/30/05
Posts: 9,640
Loc: 45º parallel Flag
Last seen: 7 hours, 40 minutes
Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: cactu]
    #7649241 - 11/17/07 10:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

defintely not a gym, like everyone has said above, takes on strong clitocybe characteristics, a spore print would be nice, and a nicely focused shot of the girls and what not. :tomato:


--------------------



I am incapable of conceiving infinity, and yet I do not accept finity.
- Simone de Beauvoir -


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePinheadX
Stranger thanyou
Male User Gallery


Registered: 04/25/07
Posts: 1,414
Loc: TX Gulf Coast
Last seen: 6 years, 1 month
Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: cactu]
    #7649245 - 11/17/07 10:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I've printed field blewitts that have lighter spore prints than that, almost white. And they were thick, too.

If you look up the characteristics of Clitocybe nuda, the spore print can range from tan to white. It's not a definite thing, as far as anyone knows.

I don't think the specimen he found is C. nuda. I think it's another Clitocybe, though. I've found some with brown caps that look similar to those, and they're thicker than nuda that I've found, and less brittle. I haven't found wood blewitts though, only field blewitts, which tend to be smaller and a bit different looking than the wood variety as far as I can tell.

The last patch I found had a thick purple mycelial mat growing at the base of the grass stems. It was amazing... It felt like a gelatin cube or something. I wish I had my camera at the time, and I plan on going back there tomorrow with the camera to see if I can get photos.


--------------------
If you want to find psilocybin in species that are not yet known to be psychoactive, you should do chemical tests. That way you won't get sick and die all the time.
- Alan Rockefeller

Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
- Philip K. Dick


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblecactu
culture and magic
Male

Registered: 03/06/06
Posts: 3,913
Loc: mexicoelcentrodelconocimi...
Trusted Identifier
Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: PinheadX]
    #7649272 - 11/17/07 10:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

sure well said PinheadX i was to lazy to explain that detail of the spore but i have notice myself , also it does not resemble nuda but other lepista or clitocybe as you say, i second that, what got me is i never found the nuda in log but close, but it have a definitely clitocybe look ,
all my best.


--------------------

cuando una rafaga del pensamiento nos pasa  al lado se puede sentir  que valio  la pena  haber vivido, y cuando ese pensamiento se  convierte en sueño no paramos de soñar hasta realizarlo


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblethedudenj
Man of the Woods

Registered: 08/18/04
Posts: 14,684
Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: cactu]
    #7649300 - 11/17/07 10:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

not gym


--------------------

"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblegreys
OTD Sergeant at Arms
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/16/06
Posts: 44,923
Loc: nunya
Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: thedudenj]
    #7649346 - 11/17/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

thats an older blewit....blewits print buff or cream colored.....off center foot to the stipe and imperfect cap margin. in age they tend to be tannish on the cap.those are definitely not gymnopilus
blewits prefer leaf litter and pine needles and grass clippings, if they fruit off of wood it is purely coincidental..i have found them attached to sticks before..but they are getting nutrients from the bark and leaves the stick is laying in.


heres what they look like when they are a little younger









here is a patch of mature greater blewits...you can clearly see the irregular cap margin illustrated



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineHotnuts
old hand
 User Gallery

Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 3,436
Loc: Wild Blue Yawnder
Last seen: 25 days, 12 hours
Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: greys]
    #7649386 - 11/17/07 10:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I agree that it's a Blewit, but certainly not with a white spore deposit. The only other mushroom that comes to mind that resembles the Blewit is a Violet Cort, but it's a mycorrhizal species with a brown spore deposit.

It's a true Blewit IMO. I don't think you allowed the cap sufficient printing time is all.


Edited by Hotnuts (11/17/07 10:43 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePinheadX
Stranger thanyou
Male User Gallery


Registered: 04/25/07
Posts: 1,414
Loc: TX Gulf Coast
Last seen: 6 years, 1 month
Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: Hotnuts]
    #7649471 - 11/17/07 11:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)



These print a creamy off white. They have been ID'ed as L. nuda.

Like I said, there is quite a bit of variation in the macroscopic features of this species. Unless we're talking about two different species here. Do we know if anyone has done DNA testing of these two very different looking specimens?


--------------------
If you want to find psilocybin in species that are not yet known to be psychoactive, you should do chemical tests. That way you won't get sick and die all the time.
- Alan Rockefeller

Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
- Philip K. Dick


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblecactu
culture and magic
Male

Registered: 03/06/06
Posts: 3,913
Loc: mexicoelcentrodelconocimi...
Trusted Identifier
Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: PinheadX]
    #7649586 - 11/17/07 11:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

this are the one i find i wish i could find a hole bunch as you there.
don´t you have any other lepista up there like lepista nebularis, lepista glaucocana, l. sordida, l. personata, well i bet many variation are as here i have notice also how the color fade in age but no the foot it stay more blue .
this what i suppose lepista nuda taste real good.i wish they come in so great numbers spores where creamy.




--------------------

cuando una rafaga del pensamiento nos pasa  al lado se puede sentir  que valio  la pena  haber vivido, y cuando ese pensamiento se  convierte en sueño no paramos de soñar hasta realizarlo


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblegreys
OTD Sergeant at Arms
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/16/06
Posts: 44,923
Loc: nunya
Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: cactu]
    #7650124 - 11/18/07 06:32 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

young corts will still have a cortina, and also will have a very bulbous centrally symmetrical foot without classic fluffy mycelium clinging to it.
there is an inocybe that resembles a blewit when young...but gets a long stipe in age and doesnt demonstrate a wavy irregular cap.

it could be clitocybe avellaneialba......that prints white and grows on wood


--------------------
:greys:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Topicals   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* ID Confirmation: Clitocybe/Lepista nuda Thallium 511 4 12/18/11 10:41 PM
by elprawn
* Real Clitocybe/Lepista Nuda or What Passes For It In S. Cal. Origyn 481 3 06/14/17 11:04 PM
by Byrain
* Is what I found poisonous Entoloma sinuatum or Lepista Irina ? gene 3,659 17 10/17/11 08:22 AM
by gene
* (Clitocybe)Lepista Tarda? on Maui and Ganoderma Mushmitch 723 2 01/22/14 04:15 PM
by Mushmitch
* "Beware of those brown clitocybes!" - Tjakko Stijve Hermes_br 2,051 2 04/08/04 07:37 AM
by Hermes_br
* Lepista nuda phylogenetic tree Alan RockefellerM 906 2 11/01/14 02:29 PM
by Alan Rockefeller
* Hypsizygus, Pleurotus & Lepista Irina Phishfinder 2,163 7 10/15/11 12:27 PM
by suchen
* Some kind of Lepista ? ragadinks 1,115 2 10/03/04 03:00 AM
by ragadinks

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: ToxicMan, inski, Alan Rockefeller, Duggstar, TimmiT, Anglerfish, Tmethyl, Lucis, Doc9151, Land Trout
883 topic views. 1 members, 22 guests and 7 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.029 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 12 queries.