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budsmoke
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possible gymnopilus
#7625301 - 11/12/07 11:28 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Habitat: Wood - Found on decaying tree stump
Gills: light brown, the gills are free.
Stem: Whitish, pretty fragile.
Cap: Brown to gray, smooth, large.
Spore print color: being taken
Bruising: Hard to tell, if there is bruising, it is a rusty color
Location: Picked in north eastern Mass, USA
A found a ton of these on a decaying stump. About 2 feet away was a GIANT patch of what looked like a smaller, more orange shaded version. They were in a bunch and there was probably 80-100 of them. I'm thinking they might have been immature versions of this, becasue theye were mostly not open yet.



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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: budsmoke]
#7625331 - 11/12/07 11:35 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks like a blewit. Genus Clitocybe or Lepista perhaps. Should have a white spore print.
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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: akb112211]
#7625793 - 11/12/07 01:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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yep, second that. by the pics I would even bet nuda
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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: Polecat]
#7626101 - 11/12/07 02:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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yup, print is white, thanks
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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: akb112211]
#7648901 - 11/17/07 08:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
akb112211 said: Looks like a blewit. Genus Clitocybe or Lepista perhaps. Should have a white spore print.
Blewit's don't have white spore deposits. A true Blewit has almost an orange sherbert colored print.
Edited by Hotnuts (11/17/07 08:26 PM)
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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: Hotnuts]
#7648978 - 11/17/07 08:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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lepista nuda have creamy spores. those are maybe armillarea blewit dont grow on a log they grow in the ground , maybe armillarea tabescens.
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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: cactu]
#7649036 - 11/17/07 08:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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They can be found on stumps with a severe decay as well.
What you have there looks like a Blewit to me. I'm guessing you didn't allow the cap sufficient time to print properly.
Here's what the Blewit's print looks like.
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Edited by Hotnuts (11/17/07 08:55 PM)
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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: Hotnuts]
#7649068 - 11/17/07 09:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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yes is a tricky color , hope it be a blewit is more worth it ,
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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: cactu]
#7649241 - 11/17/07 10:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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defintely not a gym, like everyone has said above, takes on strong clitocybe characteristics, a spore print would be nice, and a nicely focused shot of the girls and what not.
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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: cactu]
#7649245 - 11/17/07 10:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've printed field blewitts that have lighter spore prints than that, almost white. And they were thick, too.
If you look up the characteristics of Clitocybe nuda, the spore print can range from tan to white. It's not a definite thing, as far as anyone knows.
I don't think the specimen he found is C. nuda. I think it's another Clitocybe, though. I've found some with brown caps that look similar to those, and they're thicker than nuda that I've found, and less brittle. I haven't found wood blewitts though, only field blewitts, which tend to be smaller and a bit different looking than the wood variety as far as I can tell.
The last patch I found had a thick purple mycelial mat growing at the base of the grass stems. It was amazing... It felt like a gelatin cube or something. I wish I had my camera at the time, and I plan on going back there tomorrow with the camera to see if I can get photos.
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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: PinheadX]
#7649272 - 11/17/07 10:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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sure well said PinheadX i was to lazy to explain that detail of the spore but i have notice myself , also it does not resemble nuda but other lepista or clitocybe as you say, i second that, what got me is i never found the nuda in log but close, but it have a definitely clitocybe look , all my best.
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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: cactu]
#7649300 - 11/17/07 10:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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not gym
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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: thedudenj]
#7649346 - 11/17/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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thats an older blewit....blewits print buff or cream colored.....off center foot to the stipe and imperfect cap margin. in age they tend to be tannish on the cap.those are definitely not gymnopilus blewits prefer leaf litter and pine needles and grass clippings, if they fruit off of wood it is purely coincidental..i have found them attached to sticks before..but they are getting nutrients from the bark and leaves the stick is laying in.
heres what they look like when they are a little younger




here is a patch of mature greater blewits...you can clearly see the irregular cap margin illustrated
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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: greys]
#7649386 - 11/17/07 10:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I agree that it's a Blewit, but certainly not with a white spore deposit. The only other mushroom that comes to mind that resembles the Blewit is a Violet Cort, but it's a mycorrhizal species with a brown spore deposit.
It's a true Blewit IMO. I don't think you allowed the cap sufficient printing time is all.
Edited by Hotnuts (11/17/07 10:43 PM)
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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: Hotnuts]
#7649471 - 11/17/07 11:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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These print a creamy off white. They have been ID'ed as L. nuda.
Like I said, there is quite a bit of variation in the macroscopic features of this species. Unless we're talking about two different species here. Do we know if anyone has done DNA testing of these two very different looking specimens?
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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: PinheadX]
#7649586 - 11/17/07 11:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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this are the one i find i wish i could find a hole bunch as you there. don´t you have any other lepista up there like lepista nebularis, lepista glaucocana, l. sordida, l. personata, well i bet many variation are as here i have notice also how the color fade in age but no the foot it stay more blue . this what i suppose lepista nuda taste real good.i wish they come in so great numbers spores where creamy.


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Re: possible gymnopilus [Re: cactu]
#7650124 - 11/18/07 06:32 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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young corts will still have a cortina, and also will have a very bulbous centrally symmetrical foot without classic fluffy mycelium clinging to it. there is an inocybe that resembles a blewit when young...but gets a long stipe in age and doesnt demonstrate a wavy irregular cap.
it could be clitocybe avellaneialba......that prints white and grows on wood
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