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LSD or 2c-e?
    #7621373 - 11/11/07 09:31 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

How do I know if I've done LSD as opposed to 2c-e(or similar counterparts)? I did some yesterday and felt a shift in consciousness but didn't really feel the "infinite" as I've experienced with previous LSD experiences. Then I got really bad cramps about 9 hours into it. It came in liquid form, but I'm not sure if it was the substance, or just a dose issue. Anyone help?


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Re: LSD or 2c-e? [Re: gtpen]
    #7621382 - 11/11/07 09:36 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You can definitely tell between LSD and 2c-e just based on the intensity. 2c-e is relaxed and not intense at all really. The fact that it lasted 9 hours at least though makes me think it probably wasn't 2c-e. It could have been DOC or any other RC, the only way to really know is if you have done enough real LSD to tell the difference. I've never heard of LSD giving cramps, maybe you were just hungry or something.


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Re: LSD or 2c-e? [Re: g00ru]
    #7621397 - 11/11/07 09:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Bullshit. 2c-e can be extremely intense. I've done it three times and everyone of my trips was intense(18, 20, 30 milligrams). It definitely could have been 2c-e. According to erowid the effects of 2c-e can last from 4 to 9 hours. A strong dose could last nine hours without a doubt.


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Re: LSD or 2c-e? [Re: robbyberto]
    #7621408 - 11/11/07 09:45 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

can 2c-e come in liquid form?


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Re: LSD or 2c-e? [Re: robbyberto]
    #7621413 - 11/11/07 09:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Bullshit. 2c-e can be extremely intense. I've done it three times and everyone of my trips was intense(18, 20, 30 milligrams). It definitely could have been 2c-e. According to erowid the effects of 2c-e can last from 4 to 9 hours. A strong dose could last nine hours without a doubt.




I guess it could be intense, but compared to acid? NO comparison, Acid is just on another scale. Actually after reading that his trip wasn't as spiritual this time I think it could be 2c-e. The fact that he got cramps means it was probably an RC of some sort. When I do 2c-e I get bitchin headaches, so I don't do it anymore.


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Re: LSD or 2c-e? [Re: gtpen]
    #7621416 - 11/11/07 09:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

No, but it could have been dissolved in a liquid and sold to him. Very unlikely I suppose.


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Re: LSD or 2c-e? [Re: g00ru]
    #7621423 - 11/11/07 09:51 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think LSD is more intense with smaller equal strength doses, however, eventually it doesn't matter how much 2c-e you take you will trip just as hard whereas the more LSD you take the harder you will trip . At least up to a certain point that is much more intense than 2c-e.


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Re: LSD or 2c-e? [Re: robbyberto]
    #7621426 - 11/11/07 09:51 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I would wager that you got DOC, which for me is just as strong as Acid but much less spiritual. It's more of a rave drug. And it comes in all the same forms as Acid does. I've never heart of 2c-e in liquid form but like robbyberto said it's certainly possible.


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Re: LSD or 2c-e? [Re: robbyberto]
    #7621427 - 11/11/07 09:52 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

All the 2-cx chemicals I've seen have came dissolved in vodka.


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Re: LSD or 2c-e? [Re: Individual]
    #7621441 - 11/11/07 09:57 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i have very much experience with RC's and LSD and i can say if it tasted distinctly bitter then its most likely an RC of some type. LSD in liquid would have a semi metallic taste or no taste at all. And i have had some fairly extreme trips on 2ce that would be comparible with LSD on some level and large doses of it has kept me in a loop up to 10 hours when taken orally. LSD does give minor cramps, aches and pains occasionally as i have experienced them. I usually dont experience cramping on 2ce unless i snort a high dose but everybody reacts differently to different chems. did you taste anything funny in the liquid?


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Re: LSD or 2c-e? [Re: Individual]
    #7621449 - 11/11/07 10:02 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

not a fan of the 2 c 's i agree with it not being as spirital but anyway i have got 2-ci on paper before so i agree it can be liqiud


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Re: LSD or 2c-e? [Re: camelsmoker]
    #7621456 - 11/11/07 10:04 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yeah a bit bitter if I remember correctly, is there a clear cut way of knowing if its LSD or something else? A feature of LSD that won't be there in other substances. I didn't experience that much sound distortion wavyness as I"ve experienced on LSD, and the "peak" wasn't as pronounced as I've experienced on previous LSD trips. Not sure if this was dose, my pupils did get really dialated thought.


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Re: LSD or 2c-e? [Re: gtpen]
    #7621687 - 11/11/07 11:28 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

LSD is UV reactive.


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Re: LSD or 2c-e? [Re: funnybunny]
    #7622165 - 11/11/07 02:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like DOC. I've never heard of 2c's being sold as acid...only DOB, DOC, 5-meo-amt, etc.


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Re: LSD or 2c-e? [Re: funnybunny]
    #7622210 - 11/11/07 02:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Do you remember how long it took you to come up? The 2C's can take up to 1.5 hours to kick in, while LSD shouldn't take more than 1 hour; so if you remember coming up in less than an hour it is more likely (though certainly not definitive) you had acid, and if it took you at least an hour to come up it is more likely you had 2C-(e).

(Stomach) cramps are more commonly associated with the 2C's, but again cramps don't really prove anything.
Synesthesia--the blending of the senses--seems to be a pretty unique feature of LSD vs. other hallucinogens but it occurs too randomly and infrequently to say that not experiencing it indicates you did not take LSD. If you'd said you distinctly remember synesthesia I'd say you almost certainly had acid though.

About how much liquid did you consume? Two drops? Ten drops?
Also, I'm just curious about how this liquid came into your possession that you weren't sure was LSD or 2C-(e). What did the individual(s) you got it from say it was?


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Re: LSD or 2c-e? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #7622390 - 11/11/07 03:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Is it true that LSD is UV reactive? It seemed to take more then an hour to kick in, it felt like, and I consumed about 3 drops, I was told it was LSD, but since this experience seemed to be different then others I had I thought maybe it wasn't LSD but rather a substitute.


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Re: LSD or 2c-e? [Re: gtpen]
    #7622425 - 11/11/07 03:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like it could have been a DOx compound. Could have been a 2C-x, though probably not as likely as it most often comes in powder form. Still a possibility, however I'd put my money on an unknown DOx chemical.


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Re: LSD or 2c-e? [Re: Robo]
    #7622933 - 11/11/07 06:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i would say RC .. you did say bitter and it took more than an hour to feel... RC


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