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Why I buy cage-free eggs
    #7621178 -

And why you should too...if you have a soul, that is =)


http://www.factoryfarming.com
http://www.mercyforanimals.org/

Fuck this inhumane torture of living beings. So disgusting.


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7621196 -

I get mine from the neighbors chicken coup down the road most of the time, or I buy the cage-free ones, they aren't as runny and taste better. They are only .50 more at the moment, they are on their way up though.

I got offered a 20,000$ a year contract to run a hog confinement last week, all I would have to do is walk through for disiese patrol twice a day, check feeders and set the feed truck delivery and arrange the trucking for the hogs when they are mature enough to be sold. The animals are all contracted to Tyson.

I said No....Please me, have no regrets, that would of been good money for very little extra work.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Adom]
    #7621199 -

Yeah screw tyson. Plus their chicken isn't even good, it's just weird and squishy like foam.


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Life is one big road with lots of signs,
So when you're ridin' through the ruts,
Don't you complicate your mind.

Flee from hate, mischief and jealousy
Don't bury your thoughts,
Put your vision to reality, yeah!

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7621206 -

I couldn't watch your video - but I "know" what was on it.

Thats why Im slowly switching to a more vegie/fish lifestyle.
When I prepare meals - my hubby-to-be likes to proclaim "And now, suffering free food!"
I like that way that sounds.

OoD


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7621208 -

When I was a child my grandmother used to grab chickens out of the coup, carry them over to the wood chopping stump and chop their heads off with a hatchet(no joke). Then she would carry their twitching bodies over to her clothes-line and hang them by their feet, good ol' granny, I could hardly watch but it didn't fase her.

I grew up eating real chicken, that Tyson stuff has serious problems and my body does not like digesting it... YUCK anyways, it's texture is all wrong.

Now my uncle and nieghbors have chickens so I don't buy the stuff very often, FTW. Eggs are free, meats come by offering to do a little work in my free-time.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Adom]
    #7621213 -

Even fish are a problem. I haven't decided on what's best to do about that yet.

It's projected that the world's fisheries (the natural ones) are going to collapse at the rate we are going by 2040 or 2050. We are fishing away the ocean to the point of worldwide oceanic ecosystem collapse.

On the other hand we have farm-raised fish wich are dirty, not as good, and also do their part in massively polluting the world through their wastes and nutrient runoff.

Shit, it's like you can't win one way or the other..


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Life is one big road with lots of signs,
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Don't you complicate your mind.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7621226 -

I know it.

I hunt a lot of my meat and buy or work off 1/4's of beef and pork right off farmers. I don't buy fish much either unless it's a resteraunt, I like to catch my own... Not that it's any healthier, fish clean the water so toxins wind up in their flesh.......

I stopped worrying about it, I just avoid the system as much as possible and do it myself as often as I can.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7621234 -

VisionsToReality said:
http://www.factoryfarming.com
http://www.mercyforanimals.org/



hahahaha... fucking peta shit, believe about 10% of what you catch from animal rights sites


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7621289 -

well some of us are on extreme budgets and the extra dollar a dozen does not seem like a good trade off... though i know chicken ranches are horrid places. that can be attested to the smell.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: nerotheavenger]
    #7621302 -

And why is that? The fact this stuff goes on tells us that regulations are not right enough in terms of animal torture.

You have any evidence to support your claims, prisoner 1? I put forth mine..now it's your turn. =)


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Life is one big road with lots of signs,
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Don't you complicate your mind.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: nerotheavenger]
    #7621306 -

nerotheavenger said:
well some of us are on extreme budgets and the extra dollar a dozen does not seem like a good trade off... though i know chicken ranches are horrid places. that can be attested to the smell.


If you can't spend a dollar a week extra to support cage free or whatever else, then you must be on food stamps. Almost anyone can afford that. The extra dollar is NOT an excuse to buy caged animal products. C'mon.


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Life is one big road with lots of signs,
So when you're ridin' through the ruts,
Don't you complicate your mind.

Flee from hate, mischief and jealousy
Don't bury your thoughts,
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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7621320 -

He'll slaughter you, I don't like animal suffering but those sights are crap. The people running them are making nonprofit bank and not doing much else but spreading propaganda and I'm not going to get into this with my facts. I don't like some farming practices but there is enough BS laws and regulations that make it hard enough for honest men to make their living farming, I don't think higher regulations is the answer.

I mostly see cage-free and organic labels are marketing scams, I let my tongue and budget decide otherwise.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Adom]
    #7621323 -

Nah he won't, because this happens. Cage free is cage free. Prove it prisoner.


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Life is one big road with lots of signs,
So when you're ridin' through the ruts,
Don't you complicate your mind.

Flee from hate, mischief and jealousy
Don't bury your thoughts,
Put your vision to reality, yeah!

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Adom]
    #7621329 -

unfortunately not all cage-free hens are better than large industry conditions

cage-free, pasture foraging, (not necessarily vegetarian but that's neutral) is what you want, with no antibiotics, artificial vitamins or sunlight, and that have beaks intact

I recently went back to white eggs to save a few dollars a month, and I forgot about the taste difference. Also, why are white eggs so much harder to crack and more prone to brittleness? Calcium deficiency?


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: demiu5]
    #7621333 -

The way I see it is cage free is a step up from factory, while cage free+organic is a step above both.


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Life is one big road with lots of signs,
So when you're ridin' through the ruts,
Don't you complicate your mind.

Flee from hate, mischief and jealousy
Don't bury your thoughts,
Put your vision to reality, yeah!

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7621337 -

VisionsToReality said:
Even fish are a problem. I haven't decided on what's best to do about that yet.

It's projected that the world's fisheries (the natural ones) are going to collapse at the rate we are going by 2040 or 2050. We are fishing away the ocean to the point of worldwide oceanic ecosystem collapse.

On the other hand we have farm-raised fish wich are dirty, not as good, and also do their part in massively polluting the world through their wastes and nutrient runoff.

Shit, it's like you can't win one way or the other..


I love how all of this relates back directly to population size/control


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: demiu5]
    #7621342 -

If I spend an extra dollar to support something, I'll start with the humans.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: demiu5]
    #7621352 -

demius said:
unfortunately not all cage-free hens are better than large industry conditions

cage-free, pasture foraging, (not necessarily vegetarian but that's neutral) is what you want, with no antibiotics, artificial vitamins or sunlight, and that have beaks intact




This is my point exactly. A person I know dodges all this cage-free stuff but his birds are wing-to-wing in a confinement and never see the light of day.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Adom]
    #7621388 -

Which brings us to the consumer - how the fuck does a consumer know which are in a warehouse cage free and which are roaming the land freely, cage free? Damnit !!


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Life is one big road with lots of signs,
So when you're ridin' through the ruts,
Don't you complicate your mind.

Flee from hate, mischief and jealousy
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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: badchad]
    #7621390 -

badchad said:
If I spend an extra dollar to support something, I'll start with the humans.


Or you could just do both and realize 2 bucks a week is chump change.


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Life is one big road with lots of signs,
So when you're ridin' through the ruts,
Don't you complicate your mind.

Flee from hate, mischief and jealousy
Don't bury your thoughts,
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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7621398 -

I think there is bigger fish to fry at this moment in time, personally animal suffering isn't much compared to human suffering in the world we live in.

I'm an arrogant human though, I think we are better than chickens.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Adom]
    #7621403 -

Out of sight out of mind caged eggs for me all the way!

I buy liquid egg whites and I've never seen cage free egg whites, so its not even an option.


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Adom]
    #7621407 -

I raise my own chickens that give me eggs.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: disturbed]
    #7621446 -

They have cage-free white eggs....

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Adom]
    #7621461 -

Adom said:
I think there is bigger fish to fry at this moment in time, personally animal suffering isn't much compared to human suffering in the world we live in.

I'm an arrogant human though, I think we are better than chickens.


I don't see why people can't focus on 2 good goals at once. It isn't hard to do. And if anything I view the animals as being superior to the humans, because they were here first, they didn't knowingly fuck up the ecosystem for all of evolution to fix, and humans have only been here for a fraction of evolutionary time.

But regardless of what you think, why not just multi task and be for both causes?


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Life is one big road with lots of signs,
So when you're ridin' through the ruts,
Don't you complicate your mind.

Flee from hate, mischief and jealousy
Don't bury your thoughts,
Put your vision to reality, yeah!

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7621480 -

VisionsToReality said:
Even fish are a problem. I haven't decided on what's best to do about that yet.

It's projected that the world's fisheries (the natural ones) are going to collapse at the rate we are going by 2040 or 2050. We are fishing away the ocean to the point of worldwide oceanic ecosystem collapse.

On the other hand we have farm-raised fish wich are dirty, not as good, and also do their part in massively polluting the world through their wastes and nutrient runoff.

Shit, it's like you can't win one way or the other..


There are several guides published that tell you which fish are sustainable to eat and which ones cause environmental harm to harvest. Here's one such guide: http://blueocean.org/seafood/


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7621528 -

I am thankful I can barely buy food. There is no way I would buy/afford organic or cage-free eggs. I am fully aware of the antibiotics and inhumane treatment, but I can eat it or starve.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7621536 -

Alot of places are selling their own brands of cage free eggs, now. Where I get them, they are only 40 more cents than the regular ones.


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7621541 -

Man, haven't you read my posts? As far as I'm concerned I don't really buy into the meat-market, I am a do it your-self type. I try to show all those I know personally how much cheaper it is to do this... I share the wealth of my cheap eggs, meat and poultry. I am far from ignoring this problem I'm just not into PETA or other so called non-profit organizations.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: bukkake]
    #7621558 -

bukkake said:
I am thankful I can barely buy food. There is no way I would buy/afford organic or cage-free eggs. I am fully aware of the antibiotics and inhumane treatment, but I can eat it or starve.


Dude. Are you joking? It's like 50 cents to a dollar more for uncaged eggs, are you that poor? I find that pretty hard to believe.


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Life is one big road with lots of signs,
So when you're ridin' through the ruts,
Don't you complicate your mind.

Flee from hate, mischief and jealousy
Don't bury your thoughts,
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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7621563 -

Tight budgets are tight man, that is an extra 5$ a month if you are me and if you are feeding a house hold who knows how much... you cut pennies, he's a family man, are you?

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Adom]
    #7621566 -

Adom said:
Man, haven't you read my posts? As far as I'm concerned I don't really buy into the meat-market, I am a do it your-self type. I try to show all those I know personally how much cheaper it is to do this... I share the wealth of my cheap eggs, meat and poultry. I am far from ignoring this problem I'm just not into PETA or other so called non-profit organizations.


You really have a bias against these groups as a whole, it seems. Surely these organizations are not all on the same plane as PETA.


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Life is one big road with lots of signs,
So when you're ridin' through the ruts,
Don't you complicate your mind.

Flee from hate, mischief and jealousy
Don't bury your thoughts,
Put your vision to reality, yeah!

Edited by VisionsToReality (11/11/07 10:43 AM)

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7621571 -

I am. I don't have health insurance and I struggle to pay for schooling. Buying $6 milk and $4 eggs isn't high on my list of priorities. It isn't realistic for poor people. It's like telling poor people to buy hybrids and install solar panels on their homes. But I would like to do it someday.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7621577 -

You are 100% correct, I do not trust any organization who asks for money. I have no reason for it and I haven't seen one make any difference as far as I'm concerned. I live in a agriculture economy and I see family farmers selling out to cooperates every day, nearly all of them have and the ones who haven't are loosing ground and either will sell out or lose it all. I'd rather buy a hog off them than read that stuff.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: bukkake]
    #7621580 -

Holy shit 6$ for milk?

Here, in Iowa, Organic whole milk by the gallon is under 3$ and the fanciest name on all of the eggs doesn't top 2.50$. 35k is a moderate living here though.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: bukkake]
    #7621581 -

bukkake said:
I am. I don't have health insurance and I struggle to pay for schooling. Buying $6 milk and $4 eggs isn't high on my list of priorities. It isn't realistic for poor people. It's like telling poor people to buy hybrids and install solar panels on their homes. But I would like to do it someday.


The cage free eggs I buy at hannaford costs 2.99
The organic milk I buy at hannaford is 3.50-4.50, I can't remember, but that's for a gallon

It is in no way akin to telling people to buy hybrids. I'm sure you have plenty-an-indulgence that you can shave off a couple extra bucks on and not even feel the difference. To each his own, I still respect your choice, given that you've weighed the options, at least


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Life is one big road with lots of signs,
So when you're ridin' through the ruts,
Don't you complicate your mind.

Flee from hate, mischief and jealousy
Don't bury your thoughts,
Put your vision to reality, yeah!

Edited by VisionsToReality (11/11/07 10:49 AM)

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7621589 -

"Free-range" is not a legal industry term; therefore it is essentially meaningless. Farmers use the term to imply that they practice a more humane standard of production but, in reality, there is no regulation regarding how the word is interpreted or used. Although most consumers imagine free-range hens have access to the outdoors with plenty of sunlight, vegetation, and normal social interaction, to most egg producers, the "range" is simply a bigger cage than those in which battery-caged hens are kept.

Free-range egg farming is, above all else, a business. Consequently, profit surpasses concern for the animals' comfort, welfare, or behavioral needs. In addition, it is common for free-range layers to be debeaked just like battery-caged layers.

But even if free-range hens were treated with kindness and given all the space they could use, they will still be killed for meat when their egg production wanes, usually after one or two years, even though in a natural environment a hen could live fifteen years. And, like all other animals raised for food, they will be subjected to the horrors and abuses of transportation, handling, and slaughter.

An inherent problem with all egg production, whether free-range or battery-caged, is the disposal of unwanted male chicks at the hatchery. Because male chicks don't lay eggs and do not grow fast enough to be raised profitably for meat, they are deemed a financial liability, except for the few used as rooster studs. On average, one rooster is used to service ten hens. Hence, nine out of ten male chicks are considered virtually useless and will be killed by the cheapest means available, including suffocation and being ground up alive.

No matter what words or systems are used to candy coat animal production, when we treat sentient beings as commodities we invariably invite abuse. From a vegan perspective, the use of animals for human profit or gain, regardless of how they are raised or treated, is incompatible with vegan principles and the practice of compassionate living.

http://www.vegsource.com/jo/qa/qaeggs.htm

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Adom]
    #7621599 -

I've only seen Stonyfield Farms and Organic Valley around here. They range around $6. It's $3.29 for a gallon of regular milk, the kind with the pus and hormones.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: bukkake]
    #7621620 -

All acid heads should move to Iowa and take it over.  Everyone is leaving, real estate is cheap we could make our own colony and take over entire towns, the MS-13 mexican mafia is already doing it and they aren't peaceful, I guess that would never work :frown:

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Adom]
    #7621635 -

The Mexican mafia is taking over towns in Iowa?

Is Iowa one of the states giving free land to professionals for moving in? I'd move to Iowa if my neighbors weren't in eyesight.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: bukkake]
    #7621640 -

Seems like the only way to know is calling up the company and asking about how the animals are raised, but even then, you're prob. getting a fluffed version.


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Life is one big road with lots of signs,
So when you're ridin' through the ruts,
Don't you complicate your mind.

Flee from hate, mischief and jealousy
Don't bury your thoughts,
Put your vision to reality, yeah!

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Adom]
    #7621646 -

Adom said:
They have cage-free white eggs....


The color of the egg depends on the individual chicken, but what he was talking about is they don't sell liquid egg whites that are "range free", and that's all he buys.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: bukkake]
    #7621664 -

As far as organized crime is concerned, I'd say yes.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7621679 -

I just can't eat conventional eggs, milk or meat. The hormones, drugs and other shit they put in there really freaks me out too much :tongue:

I also don't think we should be supporting animal cruelty, but all of the additives in food today are just nasty and I avoid them wherever I can. I probably spend an extra $30/week on organic, local meat, dairy and eggs--preferably from the farmers' market. I'd rather spend this money on real, non-factory farmed food than a few drinks at the bar or some other BS.

currently, I don't have kids to support. When I do have them I hope I will be able to afford to give them pure, wholesome, additive-free food from naturally raised animals.

Edited by champ (11/11/07 11:28 AM)

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: champ]
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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
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VisionsToReality said:
You have any evidence to support your claims, prisoner 1? I put forth mine..now it's your turn. =)



you put forth a link to a couple websites, no actual evidence
have you ever lived on a farm, have you ever worked one, ever seen a slaughter house...

corporate angus farm

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v113/prisoner1/DSC00998.jpg


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7621834 -

VisionsToReality said:
The way I see it is cage free is a step up from factory, while cage free+organic is a step above both.


I'm beginning to believe you dont know what you're talking about, organic is a
scam as far as market produce is concerned, this 'cage free' and 'free range' shit
is no better... have you ever read from the FDA website?


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7621837 -

I'm not saying all corporations practice factory farming, but many do.


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Life is one big road with lots of signs,
So when you're ridin' through the ruts,
Don't you complicate your mind.

Flee from hate, mischief and jealousy
Don't bury your thoughts,
Put your vision to reality, yeah!

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: badchad]
    #7621844 -

badchad said:
If I spend an extra dollar to support something, I'll start with the humans.


truth be told. i'm always baffled by people going all out for peta type activities and what not, but not giving a shit about the PEOPLE in the world that are in such horrid conditions.


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7621846 -

Prisoner#1 said:
VisionsToReality said:
You have any evidence to support your claims, prisoner 1? I put forth mine..now it's your turn. =)



you put forth a link to a couple websites, no actual evidence
have you ever lived on a farm, have you ever worked one, ever seen a slaughter house...

corporate angus farm

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v113/prisoner1/DSC00998.jpg


It's true many corporate farms look like that. But have you also seen(or smelled) the huge corporate cow farm that you pass on I-5 going between Northern and Southern California?(I'm sure someone here must know what I'm talking about)


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7621870 -

yah, organic is a bullshit term used to raise the price of any product with an organic label up through the roof. My friends who buy from the wholefoods store routinely pay 50 dollars or more then me in groceries for food that tastes no better then what i get at the local market.

In fact my friend once spent 3.50 on one can of organic chicken noodle soup and it was so terrible we ended up dumping the whole thing down the drain.


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To get really high is to forget yourself. And to forget yourself is to see everything else. And to see everything else is to become an understanding molecule in evolution, a conscious tool of the universe. And I think every human being should be a conscious tool of the universe. . . .

-JG

i really am glad you came back to us instead of taking the other path. *hug*

-A_S (RIP your final words to me will never be forgotten)



Don't fuck with the laughing jesus.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: coda]
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Yah I have to say that only a fag would give a fuck about a chicken enough to pay more for eggs.

As bad as someone who's vegetarian because eating animals is "wrong".

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7621902 -

VisionsToReality said:
I'm not saying all corporations practice factory farming, but many do.


what I'm saying is that you have no idea about your organic foods, junjfood
quoted soemthing pretty accurate, the freerange and cage free eggs are nothing
more than a method to get more money, under FDA and USDA guidelines it's pretty
much anything goes, they use pesticides and chemicals, these cage free
critters.... they just have to have a door to the outside to qualify, they may
never have seen sunlight and they're still treated like all other pullets,
30,000 in a huge shed, a small door to a small pen

you guys are buying into 30yr old information on how shits supposed to be run today


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
VisionsToReality said:
I'm not saying all corporations practice factory farming, but many do.


you guys are buying into 30yr old information on how shits supposed to be run today


You forgot, they're also buying into being fucking pansies. I can't really get over that, who gives a fuck about a chickens life?

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: coda]
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coda said:
food that tastes no better then what i get at the local market.


the only way to know what you're getting is to grow it yourself, currently
H.J.Heinz is the largest player in the organic market followed by Con-Agra and
Monsanto, they hold patents on most of the GMO seed and that's what they're
growing as organic... I just wish people wouldnt jump so blindly into the shit
and believe all they here, it was the research that made me purchase a farm


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Rustifer]
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Rustifer said:
who gives a fuck about a chickens life?


I do... but that doesnt mean I'll stop torturing them


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Rustifer]
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why not give a shit about a chicken. they've done nothing wrong, if we're going to cultivate them and eat them we might as well do it with some decency.


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: razmablues]
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razmablues said:
why not give a shit about a chicken


Because I have more important things to give a shit about, such as myself, my money, and convince.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: razmablues]
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razmablues said:
why not give a shit about a chicken. they've done nothing wrong, if we're going to cultivate them and eat them we might as well do it with some decency.



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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Silversoul]
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Silversoul said:
It's true many corporate farms look like that. But have you also seen(or smelled) the huge corporate cow farm that you pass on I-5 going between Northern and Southern California?(I'm sure someone here must know what I'm talking about)



wastes are collected and dumped, I'd prefer to dump mine where it's least likely
to offend me, 1000 cows will produce 6 tons of shit per day, dumping near the
interstate affords them to take advantage of the states runoff measure.


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: razmablues]
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razmablues said:
might as well do it with some decency.



my chickens run wild, literally.


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Prisoner#1]
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You pick your cows shit up? Everyone with cows leaves it where it is... And that's quit a lot of people, you know being in Texas and all.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Rustifer]
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Rustifer said:
You pick your cows shit up? Everyone with cows leaves it where it is...



texans are backwards anyway, they dont pick up the shit and all that's left now is
desert and mesquite trees... place used to be a regular paradise

shit accumulates in shelters


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7621983 -

I could afford it, but honestly I don't care about chickens. They're here to provide us food. I'll buy what is the cheapest, since there really is no difference in quality.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Redstorm]
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there is a difference in quality, again you gotta raise your own to see it


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Prisoner#1]
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I wish I could remember the names of my uncles birds, they are Chinese I believe, their eggs are smaller than chickens and almost a greenish color on the shell, damn those are rich, delicious eggs.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Adom]
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theres a breed from south america called Araucana, they lay blue and green eggs
I think they get sold under the name 'easter egg chicken' frequently


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Prisoner#1]
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My ex's parents used to raise chickens who had eggs, and I've tried them several dozen times. I could never tell the difference between them and store-bought eggs other than the color of the shell.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Redstorm]
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they probably fed them commercial feeds plus what ever, I taste a difference, but
I'm also eating a mix of the 2 since I only have 2 laying hens


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Rustifer]
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Rustifer said:
Yah I have to say that only a fag would give a fuck about a chicken enough to pay more for eggs.

As bad as someone who's vegetarian because eating animals is "wrong".

Maybe once you achieve the maturity of adulthood you'll think otherwise. I can tell by the use of the word 'fag' that you still haven't broken out of high school maturity.


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
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So you have to care about chickens to be mature?

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Redstorm]
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no, he's just remarking about some angry, senseless rambling. to me anyway. :shrug:


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
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VisionsToReality said:
Rustifer said:
Yah I have to say that only a fag would give a fuck about a chicken enough to pay more for eggs.

As bad as someone who's vegetarian because eating animals is "wrong".

Maybe once you achieve the maturity of adulthood you'll think otherwise. I can tell by the use of the word 'fag' that you still haven't broken out of high school maturity.


I don't think that maturity has anything to do with compassion. I retract calling you a fag, and will spend some time to lay things out. You called me soulless, because I believe differently than you, and that's immature. What's adulthood man? I've been paying my own bills since I was 17, Is that it? No. It's probably when you realize in life that there's more important things then worrying about what other people do and how the food you eat has been treated before it's death.

I eat veil, brah. And only feel marginally bad about that.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
So you have to care about chickens to be mature?


No, but generally when you're mature you don't call someone a "fag" for caring about animal treatment.


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Rustifer]
    #7623375 -

Rustifer said:
VisionsToReality said:
Rustifer said:
Yah I have to say that only a fag would give a fuck about a chicken enough to pay more for eggs.

As bad as someone who's vegetarian because eating animals is "wrong".

Maybe once you achieve the maturity of adulthood you'll think otherwise. I can tell by the use of the word 'fag' that you still haven't broken out of high school maturity.


I don't think that maturity has anything to do with compassion. I retract calling you a fag, and will spend some time to lay things out. You called me soulless, because I believe differently than you, and that's immature. What's adulthood man? I've been paying my own bills since I was 17, Is that it? No. It's probably when you realize in life that there's more important things then worrying about what other people do and how the food you eat has been treated before it's death.

I eat veil, brah. And only feel marginally bad about that.


There's a difference between my opinion of you being soulless for not caring about animals, and you calling someone a fag for caring about animals. You can have your own priorities but the maturity thing only kicked in when I saw you say fag.


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7623404 -

I don't like you very much...


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: DeathCompany]
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That's cool, because I generally don't hang out with DMT users or death fanatics.  :smile:


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7623414 -

Excuse me for being stoned when I posted that. Although I do generalize homosexuality with things like veganism, humanitarianism, and people who are anal about eating "organic food". I also don't see what this has to do with maturity either.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7623430 -

VisionsToReality said:
That's cool, because I generally don't hang out with DMT users or death fanatics.  :smile:



O noooooooooooooooooooos im addicted to teh DMT, i need rehab...


ps check your ratings:smilingpuppy:


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: DeathCompany]
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And quit talking about souls. Fuck souls, those are for fags too.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Rustifer]
    #7623470 -

Must be a bunch of high schoolers in here..not surprising.

We got rustifer who still refers to nonsexual acts as making you gay, and then we got DMT posting pics of beastiality in the comment section. Nice.


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7623491 -

I believe the proper term u are looking for is "Zoophilia"


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: DeathCompany]
    #7623522 -

I always find the most naive, and dramatic people to be the ones caught up with maturity.

Just as gay has changed from one meaning to another in the past, it has done so for a second time within our generation, into a word meaning something frowned upon, or to be ashamed of. Get over it.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Rustifer]
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There never was anything to get over, you can be immature if you want. Most mature people aren't bigots.


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7623834 -

I watched Chicken Run so I know for a fact if those chickens REALLY wanted to escape they would!


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7623859 -

VisionsToReality said:
There never was anything to get over, you can be immature if you want. Most mature people aren't bigots.


Take a trip over to dictionary.com and look up bigotry, because that's exactly what you committed in your first post. Keep your opinions about things like this under wraps, because they offend some people. The only thing I'm intolerant of is people trying to shove their beliefs down my throat. And, there is something to get over, the fact that for every one person like you, there's 1000 like me that don't give a fuck about an animals life. And most of them don't like being talked down to because of their dietary choices.

So Mr. Maturity, you just proved your maturity, or lack of.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Rustifer]
    #7623869 -

Blah blah blah, says the guy who calls people fags for caring about animal suffering. Growwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwup.


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7624024 -

VisionsToReality said:
Shit, at least chickens can wake up without crying. Ohhhhh hooooooooo, ouch. Haha I could not resist that one. Fuck you heartless douchebags.


Do you know how absolutely fucking hypocritical you're being? First accusing me of bigotry, and now them of crying, when you're the only one who's done either, and you accomplished it in the first post of this thread. Shut the fuck up already.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7624176 -

seriously what higher purpose do chickens have besides eggs and meat? EAT MORE CHICKEN.


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7624448 -

you all know me

i used to kill 800 chickens aday

i really liked the automatic throat slicer,it got boring killing them by hand

we used to grab the chickens with the thumb under the beak,twist the head slightly and out pops a little red gland,then we gl;ided the knife over the gland slicing it.

i broke a few chickens legs that wouldnt fit in the shackles but i said sorry as i did it

a few used to get missed and go straight into the plucker alive and come out red...thats not white...RED hahaha

cluckety cluck

oh yeah, ever seen blood form into a jelly carpet 1/2 a foot thick?

slippery when wet

i only eat breast btw,i actually prefer a boiler hen to a plumped up watery hormone pumped hen

prisoner probably scalps his hens first,id love to snap a wishbone with him


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: alphabeatu]
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btw visionary them are big fucking chickens


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: alphabeatu]
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alphabeatu said:
prisoner probably scalps his hens first,id love to snap a wishbone with him



you're a well informed puppet


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Prisoner#1]
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puppets have strings,i pull my own chord


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
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:rolleyes: Hippies :crankey:

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Gumby]
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Gumby said:
:rolleyes: Hippies :crankey:



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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
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Chickens are stupid, who cares.

I'll only eat eggs from birds kept in tiny cages from now on, just because you don't like it.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Gumby]
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Gumby said:
:rolleyes: Hippies :crankey:


Dumbasses and their irrelevant, outdated labels. 

You'd consider a large % of america to be hippies by your standards, apparently.  Grow up bud.


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
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Quote:
Grow up


..Says the guy who can't manage a reply without resorting to name-calling.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
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VisionsToReality said:
Gumby said:
:rolleyes: Hippies :crankey:


Dumbasses and their irrelevant, outdated labels. 

You'd consider a large % of america to be hippies by your standards, apparently.  Grow up bud.


Holy fuck dude you're still in here telling everybody to grow up?

I say a large percentage of America enjoys being on the top of the food chain, and wishes you would shut the fuck up.

Mind your own business and get out of what other people are eating or doing with their money, that's part of growing up.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Rustifer]
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Mind my own business? The state of torture in industrial farming IS my business.


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7645602 -

How so?

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
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No it is not.

Someone really should take away your opinion expressing privileges.

I'm going to go ahead and put you on ignore, you've really been making the shroomery gay the last few days.

Oh hey, I killed a deer today. I fucked his shit up, 30-06 round entered in front of his right shoulder, and exited through through the left shoulder. It was pretty fucking nasty seeing what the bullet did his shoulder while I was cleaning him. No wonder the guy only took one step. I love taking life.

I was going to enjoy having all of that meat in my freezer, but for you, I think I'm going to throw it all away, and kill another deer instead.

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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Rustifer]
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Rustifer said:
No it is not.

Someone really should take away your opinion expressing privileges.

I'm going to go ahead and put you on ignore, you've really been making the shroomery gay the last few days.

Oh hey, I killed a deer today. I fucked his shit up, 30-06 round entered in front of his right shoulder, and exited through through the left shoulder. It was pretty fucking nasty seeing what the bullet did his shoulder while I was cleaning him. No wonder the guy only took one step. I love taking life.

I was going to enjoy having all of that meat in my freezer, but for you, I think I'm going to throw it all away, and kill another deer instead.


:lol::rockon:


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: VisionsToReality]
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I like my caged eggs...:grin:


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Oxy]
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i buy gay free eggs...


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
How so?


Because it is my business that animals are being subjected to more than cruel living conditions. I don't care if people are using the things to eat food, for entertainment, whatever - the bottom line is that this shouldn't happen.

All I said was that people SHOULD support cage free industries. This isn't prodding into anyone's business at all. People came to this thread at their own will.

It may not necessarily be my business to find out what everyone is eating, as they can keep that to themselves. But it sure is my business to prevent industries from torturing and abusing animals.


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Rustifer]
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Rustifer said:
No it is not.

Someone really should take away your opinion expressing privileges.

I'm going to go ahead and put you on ignore, you've really been making the shroomery gay the last few days.

Oh hey, I killed a deer today. I fucked his shit up, 30-06 round entered in front of his right shoulder, and exited through through the left shoulder. It was pretty fucking nasty seeing what the bullet did his shoulder while I was cleaning him. No wonder the guy only took one step. I love taking life.

I was going to enjoy having all of that meat in my freezer, but for you, I think I'm going to throw it all away, and kill another deer instead.


Yawn. 

I just have one more thing to say:

THANK YOU.  :sunny:


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: Rustifer]
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Quote:
Oh hey, I killed a deer today. I fucked his shit up, 30-06 round entered in front of his right shoulder, and exited through through the left shoulder. It was pretty fucking nasty seeing what the bullet did his shoulder while I was cleaning him. No wonder the guy only took one step. I love taking life.


Good shot. :thumbup:
Any pics of the prize?

Ah, I love the .30-06 cartridge, powerful and versatile.
I should go shoot a chicken in the face with one just on account of this thread.


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Re: Why I buy cage-free eggs [Re: MrKite1]
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i use to have chickens growing up, when you have them cage free you need to burn their beaks off because they will peck eachother to death

when we would kill the chickens to be butchered, i would just put my boot on its head, and rip its head clean off. Its true what they say about chickens running around with their heads chopped off.


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