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Cactus (P. Torch) Id, Please!
    #7619715 - 11/10/07 05:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Picked this up at Walmart for $1.25. I'm pretty sure it's T. Peruvianus. Am I right?

In case you can't tell, the spines are brown, and there is no white fuzzy on the areoles.



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Re: Cactus (P. Torch) Id, Please! [Re: Cakes]
    #7619764 - 11/10/07 05:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Could be a bridgesii too. Can you take a better pic?


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Re: Cactus (P. Torch) Id, Please! [Re: felixhigh]
    #7619770 - 11/10/07 05:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Let me go find some batteries for my camera, then I will. Aren't Bridgesii spines usually black?


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Re: Cactus (P. Torch) Id, Please! [Re: Cakes]
    #7619806 - 11/10/07 05:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

My last pair of batteries died right after I took this picture otherwise I would have gotten something better.



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Re: Cactus (P. Torch) Id, Please! [Re: Cakes]
    #7619890 - 11/10/07 06:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

never knew wal-mart carried these things. it does appear to be an attractive trichocereus cacti. likely peruvianus and also some bridgesioid characteristics, as fh said. wow.


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Re: Cactus (P. Torch) Id, Please! [Re: zekesdream]
    #7619900 - 11/10/07 06:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Awesome :laugh:

It was on a stand with a bunch of small cacti.  Most of them were the typical flowers and shit grafted to whatever, but there were a few similar to this and one that looked like a Blue Myrt.


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Re: Cactus (P. Torch) Id, Please! [Re: Cakes]
    #7619927 - 11/10/07 06:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i find that out of all of the giant box stores, Target has the most choice cacti selection of them all. walmart sucks. lowes isnt that great and NEVER has san pedros, home depot has them every now and then, but theyre not the greatest specimens. target has supplied me with some very nice cacti. and theyre very reasonably priced as well. 12-18" san pedros only cost about $14. target also has the widest variety of cacti i have seen too.


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Re: Cactus (P. Torch) Id, Please! [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7619935 - 11/10/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Holy crap, I've never even thought of looking at Target for cacti.  Thanks for the tip man.

Speaking of Home Depot...one by my house had like 6 giant fattie pedros a few weeks ago.  They had to have been three feet tall and at least as wide as my ankle.  :bow:


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Re: Cactus (P. Torch) Id, Please! [Re: Cakes]
    #7619984 - 11/10/07 06:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Holy crap, I've never even thought of looking at Target for cacti.  Thanks for the tip man.

Speaking of Home Depot...one by my house had like 6 giant fattie pedros a few weeks ago.  They had to have been three feet tall and at least as wide as my ankle.  :bow: 




yep, i never realized the selection they had either. i was there looking for a pot for one of my cacti and i saw the succulent section and got an instant erection! lol j/k, but i was very happy when i saw it.

well thats a rare find in my experiences with HD. ive only found 2 pedros ad HD worth buying from them. the rest looked gnarly.

a little tip with Target cakes, they have a set amount of each strain of cactus, and when they get low or sell the last one of a strain, such as pachanoi, the computer automatically orders more. they get garden shipments every second monday. i learned this from the garden manager there :smile: at least thats how the one here in lakeland works.

for about 3 months straight i was there every monday picking up the fresh new pedros they had :smile:  someone must have been pissed off at me, because the garden guy said that every tuesday or wednesday the same guy would come in asking for pachanoi. lol i got em all bitches!


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Re: Cactus (P. Torch) Id, Please! [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7619999 - 11/10/07 06:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

idk man it might be but i cant tell but the pics, i you could take a better pic it would help


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Re: Cactus (P. Torch) Id, Please! [Re: royer]
    #7620714 - 11/11/07 12:07 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

bridgesii or pedro, but probably just a bluish pedro there

with all the pollen in the world, its probably a mix of both

dont see any peruvianus in there

but whos to say peruvianus is not a bridgesiiodpedro mix?

still, appears to be an active trich


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Re: Cactus (P. Torch) Id, Please! [Re: EdSloan]
    #7621938 - 11/11/07 01:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

wtf i never seen those at walmart...

as for target, yeah i've bought pedros from there


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Re: Cactus (P. Torch) Id, Please! [Re: EdSloan]
    #7624461 - 11/12/07 03:25 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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bridgesii or pedro, but probably just a bluish pedro there

with all the pollen in the world, its probably a mix of both

dont see any peruvianus in there

but whos to say peruvianus is not a bridgesiiodpedro mix?

still, appears to be an active trich




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Re: Cactus (P. Torch) Id, Please! [Re: royer]
    #7624933 - 11/12/07 09:33 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

why is it WTF?

why not FTW?

they all contain the same as the other.
and it goes round and round.

is that mushroomjohn in your avatar?


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Re: Cactus (P. Torch) Id, Please! [Re: royer]
    #7624935 - 11/12/07 09:34 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

haha yeah... wot?


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Re: Cactus (P. Torch) Id, Please! [Re: EdSloan]
    #7624936 - 11/12/07 09:35 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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bridgesii or pedro, but probably just a bluish pedro there

with all the pollen in the world, its probably a mix of both

dont see any peruvianus in there

but whos to say peruvianus is not a bridgesiiodpedro mix?

still, appears to be an active trich




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Re: Cactus (P. Torch) Id, Please! [Re: wutang]
    #7625199 - 11/12/07 11:07 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i cant even begin to tell you how many varieties of pedro, bridgesii, and peruvianus there are. but you all probably know this.

do you guys not consider the fact that thousands of pollens are in the air constantly changing the genetics of cactus and plants constantly?

has there not been discussion of this throughout this ethno-forums existence? that cactus change through time?

what i was saying was that cakes cactus looks like a mix of pedro and bridgesii, and it does. he asked if it was a peruvianus, but with so much controversy and confusion with peruvianus, how is it not possible that its just a cross between a pedro and a bridgesii?

whos to say for sure, trout?
thats one man with one opinion.

for all we know every cactus in any genus could just be chance-breeding by pollen of another genus or species falling into the vagina of an unsuspecting but preferable host cactus. either by complete chance or by some sort of mutation or freak environmental occurance.

not to bring more controversy to the subject, but everything is a little bit of everything else, and genus's are known to interbreed. this is life and genetic.

and my point is that cakes cactus looks like a mix or a "hybrid" of sorts, but it definitely does look active.

sorry if i come off as a bit strange with my words, but words are bottomless and constantly shifting and changing, meaning only what we make them as, i tend to use metaphor as its all the same

is a stamen not a penis?

why the need for more language?

its all the same energy.


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Re: Cactus (P. Torch) Id, Please! [Re: EdSloan]
    #7625287 - 11/12/07 11:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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pollen of another genus or species falling into the vagina of an unsuspecting





pistil you mean?

I'm not sure...I've never really heard of that..
anythings possible i guess :justdontknow:


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Re: Cactus (P. Torch) Id, Please! [Re: wutang]
    #7625395 - 11/12/07 11:54 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

stamen, penis
pistil, vagina

must i explain?

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Re: Cactus (P. Torch) Id, Please! [Re: EdSloan]
    #7625531 - 11/12/07 12:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

trichs have hybridised naturally, so no one can say for sure exactly wot is wot... thats one of the factors that makes them so hard to ID...
but the point is that peruvianus is currently (in this era) considered a species in its own right, not a bridgesii/pachanoi hybrid...

anyway i hate to label cacti this way, identifications are based on opinion and wot looks like a pachanoi to me may look bridgesii to someone else, this is another factor that makes them so hard to ID...

add into that the fact that seed grown plants from the same batch show variation in morphology and all we have is confusion... young plants are impossible to give a label also, u need to wait until they mature and show their adult form, in a year or two that plant could look completely different...

just be happy that u have a trichocereus of some sort, bridgesii, pachanoi, peruvianus, wotever...


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