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ID help please- maybe cyans, but little/no blue.
    #7619090 - 11/10/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I found a large clustering patch of these growing in the (heavily woodchip-mulched) garden of a friend's house near Portland. Some of them seem to have dropped spores, and they look chocolate brown- I'm in the process of getting an actual spore print right now. The stems seem a little dried out and very slightly woody. Except for (*maybe*) a couple of traces, they aren't bruising blue.




What do you think? Are these likely cyans? Or obviously anything else?


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Re: ID help please- maybe cyans, but little/no blue. [Re: 5tone]
    #7619105 - 11/10/07 02:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, those are cyans. Take that stuff that's stuck to the bottom of the stem and put it in-between the layers of some water-soaked cardboard. Leave the cardboard outside and keep it somewhat damp. When it snows, just let the snow cover the cardboard. In the summer sprinkle some water over the cardboard and add alder or pine mulch (after the mycelium starts going really well). You'll have your own little patch.


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Re: ID help please- maybe cyans, but little/no blue. [Re: 5tone]
    #7619116 - 11/10/07 02:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I see staining at the margin. :thumbup:

Not all will bruise heavily (same as in other blue staining psilocybes), nor is it an indication of potency.


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Re: ID help please- maybe cyans, but little/no blue. [Re: 5tone]
    #7619118 - 11/10/07 02:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I see slight bluing. It's circled in the red. They sure do look like cyans to me.


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Re: ID help please- maybe cyans, but little/no blue. [Re: 5tone]
    #7619133 - 11/10/07 02:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

A little more info:

-the mature mushrooms were 3-4" high, caps 1-2" across
-stems are fibrous and hollow at the center- a 1/8-1/4" thick stem has a 1mm hollow area.
-bruising is a little uneven- mostly the stems get a little darker, in a couple spots they might be getting darker and more towards the bluish end of the spectrum. Very hard to tell.
-no (or extremely slight) scent


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Re: ID help please- maybe cyans, but little/no blue. [Re: 5tone]
    #7619187 - 11/10/07 03:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Wow, thanks guys. The patch was pretty damn sexy- about 8 feet of pretty dense clusters. The entire property is heavily mulched with wood chips, and we found one more small patch while strolling around it. I've been looking for these things for the couple of years since I started hunting chanterelles, so I'm a little excited about this.  :laugh:


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Re: ID help please- maybe cyans, but little/no blue. [Re: 5tone]
    #7619547 - 11/10/07 04:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

dont rip, snip or twist :yesnod:


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Re: ID help please- maybe cyans, but little/no blue. [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7619693 - 11/10/07 05:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The spore print is looking pretty dark chocolate brown, maybe slightly purplish.


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Re: ID help please- maybe cyans, but little/no blue. [Re: 5tone]
    #7619730 - 11/10/07 05:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yep, you've definetly got cyans. Good find!


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Re: ID help please- maybe cyans, but little/no blue. [Re: Pregnant Man]
    #7620030 - 11/10/07 07:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

nice looking cyans


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Re: ID help please- maybe cyans, but little/no blue. [Re: 5tone]
    #7620301 - 11/10/07 08:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

you shouldn't rip them out of the ground like that though.

Get some scissors, or a small pocket knife even, and cut them out of the ground. When you rip them out like that, you damage the fungus, and you minimize its chances of growing back again later in the season or next year in the same spot.

Seems like you know not to pick them when they are pins as well.

But definately save the mycelium you've got there and get your own patch going. Send some to me to. I want to hold a cyan. I'm from PA :tongue:.


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Re: ID help please- maybe cyans, but little/no blue. [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7620316 - 11/10/07 09:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Drewwyann said:
I want to hold a cyan. I'm from PA :tongue:.




You should seek out P. cyans long-distant lover, P. cearulipes.  I do believe it grows in PA, at least in part of PA.


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Re: ID help please- maybe cyans, but little/no blue. [Re: jet li]
    #7620338 - 11/10/07 09:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It does grow in my area I believe. But it is so hard to find. I've been looking all over for it. The best i can do is find some p subbs.

But next hunting season I'm gonna hit up the big wooded areas in around me. I've got several places in mind, and I'm not coming home until I've got a pound of some actives.

I'm done playing hide and seek, and I'm ready to do some of this:chew:.


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Re: ID help please- maybe cyans, but little/no blue. [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7620500 - 11/10/07 10:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

you should look near lumber mills and stuff like that. In wood chips beds. Basically the same habitat as cyans, i believe.


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Re: ID help please- maybe cyans, but little/no blue. [Re: jet li]
    #7622156 - 11/11/07 02:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Just a quick question. Thought it was fitting for this thread, in a way.

I got some Cyans yesterday and in the drying process the caps blackened. Is that normal or have they gone bad?


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Re: ID help please- maybe cyans, but little/no blue. [Re: mathewww]
    #7622473 - 11/11/07 03:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I guess the verdict is in- my friend took 3 smallish mushrooms and is tripping like crazy.


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Re: ID help please- maybe cyans, but little/no blue. [Re: mathewww]
    #7622627 - 11/11/07 04:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Seems weird.. the caps blackening DURING drying?
Answer is NO, they haven' 'gone bad'... but they may have lost potency.


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Re: ID help please- maybe cyans, but little/no blue. [Re: 5tone]
    #7622789 - 11/11/07 05:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Those are cyans for sure man. Good Job been awhile since I posted =0

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Re: ID help please- maybe cyans, but little/no blue. [Re: OJ]
    #7625136 - 11/12/07 10:44 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

What's the rule of thumb for dosing these things? My standard dose of cubensis is 1/2 an 8th/~1.5 grams. My plan is to grind them up and put them in size 1 capsules.


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Re: ID help please- maybe cyans, but little/no blue. [Re: 5tone]
    #7625277 - 11/12/07 11:22 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

OK, dumb question- there are a million threads about this. But what size capsule would you use? I'd like 1 capsule to equal ~500mg of cubensis.


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