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Cyrone
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Convincing friends to try shrooms
#7619018 - 11/10/07 02:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Does anyone have random neat tips about getting sober people to try out psychedelics? I have a couple groups of friends - one of them is hardcore/recreational drugs, and I get most my stuff from them and they're the reason I've experimented. But I also hang out with other groups of friends too cause they actually have money and motivation to go do other random things like Six Flags. So I'm kind of in between these 2 groups.. one thinks I'm a lightweight and the other thinks I'm a druggie .
A couple of them have approached me about weed, as if they wouldn't mind trying weed once. But I've been unable to give them that extra "push" to actually do it. They can trust me overall because hell, even THEY are more shady than I am. So how can I give them that extra "push", to cave in and give it a shot...? I don't have a bowl and don't know how to roll blunts, and they definitely wouldn't hang out with my druggie group (yes I use the term loosely).
Also another time my friend let slip that he's "going through a mid-mid-life crisis" (he's 19) and I didn't even know that phrase existed. In a joking-way I whispered in his ear "MUSHROOMS" but he ignored me as if he didn't hear me (he took it so seriously). He has a real blantant thing against drugs and won't even consider it - he goes to college in his own town so it's not like he's going anywhere in the next 4 years and has never had a GF. Now just basing on my own experiences with Acid it made me really think clearer about my own life and made me think that I haven't wasted the past 19 years at all - that I've lived my life PERFECTLY even. So I really wanna help this guy out but don't know how he's gonna crack..
Don't get the wrong idea like I'm some evil pressurer (I never see topics like this) it's just these people have hinted that they have some interest in drugs.. and they barely drink.
Edited by Cyrone (11/12/07 04:20 PM)
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lbtchnlgs
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Re: Convincing friends to do shrooms [Re: Cyrone]
#7619125 - 11/10/07 02:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't pressure my friends into doing it. I just explain how it feels and what you learn and they usually start showing interest. Then one thing leads to another. (maybe its not reverse psychology);)
Just had a great time on thursday with 3 newbies, they loved it and now understand
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Cyrone
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Re: Convincing friends to do shrooms [Re: lbtchnlgs]
#7619615 - 11/10/07 05:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah that's what I try to do, just tell them how it feels, and if they drink I tell them that it's pretty much on the same level as getting drunk, but "jumpier". How'd you do it with the newbies, they wanted to do it in the first place?
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Re: Convincing friends to do shrooms [Re: Cyrone]
#7619643 - 11/10/07 05:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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For my friends they ask "like what do you see?" and I just kinda describe things like "Well the furniture dances, theres patterns on everything but they're not like overwhelming or anything but you know if you pay attention its really amusing, oh and things tend to breathe by which I mean expand and contract a bit"
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Re: Convincing friends to do shrooms [Re: learningtofly]
#7619658 - 11/10/07 05:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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if the group of friends you're trying to convince have never or rarely smoked weed, maybe it's not such a good idea to let them leap right into shrooms, unless it's a really low dose.
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Re: Convincing friends to do shrooms [Re: Cyrone]
#7619668 - 11/10/07 05:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cy... im in the exact same social situation as you... I am friends with the top 20 in my class and with a few of the stoner kids who are just as intelligent just at different things... i bounce a lot between groups. Over the summer i started smoking weed and drinking ( i was straight but i knew id do stuff senor summer) i mainly started smoking weed to prepare for shrooms and acid i have always been interested in drugs and I know more facts than a lot of people whod o them. I corrupted like 6 of my friends to try weed and a lot of them love it they dont do it regularly. (one of my friends actually wants to trip with me and a few other people this winter or summer). Just do what I did. just tell them the pros and cons of it. make sure they understand shrooms arent permantly damaging and lead a lot of people to ego death. also be sure to tell them how fucking fun it is and that they arent going to die or be considered a junkie/addict for trying them.
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Re: Convincing friends to do shrooms [Re: tyler_0_durden]
#7619674 - 11/10/07 05:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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mid life crisus at 19? Does he plan on living tio 40?
While I would never pressure someone into trying drugs for the first time I suggest using the gateway drug, alcohol (the true gateway drug in my opinion) and then while they're drunk get them high. Hopefully they would be more open minded after that.
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Edited by DeathCompany (11/10/07 05:21 PM)
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Re: Convincing friends to do shrooms [Re: DeathCompany]
#7619690 - 11/10/07 05:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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alcohol is the gateway drug, when my friends criticize me for weed i give them a speech about my thoughts on that
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Personally, I tell people that have never done drugs, to not do drugs. Drugs have done so much for me, but I've had a few really bad experiences getting someone drugs for their first time and having them flip out and then having my trip turn into baby-sitting for the next while. I don't want the responsability of someone potentially having a bad time, and neither does my acid connection.
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Re: Convincing friends to do shrooms [Re: Cyrone]
#7620096 - 11/10/07 07:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cyrone said: Yeah that's what I try to do, just tell them how it feels, and if they drink I tell them that it's pretty much on the same level as getting drunk, but "jumpier". How'd you do it with the newbies, they wanted to do it in the first place?
I am good friends with the one girl, and i went out to see her at school. I knew the other two just from visiting and seeing them at parties/bars at her school.
My friend (Mal) has wanted to trip with me for some time now. Anyhow she told me she planned to trip on Wednesday or Thursday, so I went out and surprised her on wed afternoon and brought my own goods in case the mood seemed right. We all ended up taking them on thursday crushed up in PBJ. They were all full of questions of course -and I informed them on whatever they asked. They each took about 3g. We waited in the house for about an hour and a half then took a walk down to the park. Everybody was very positive and relaxed.
I was very pleased to be able to enjoy the afternoon with them, it's great to see peoples take a peak into our wonderful world and enjoy it as much as we do.
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Molasses
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Re: Convincing friends to do shrooms [Re: lbtchnlgs]
#7620258 - 11/10/07 08:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I tell people to do their own research and not to be fucking stupid.
Nothing I hate more than the stupid irresponsible drug users who make those of us who are responsible look bad...
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Re: Convincing friends to do shrooms [Re: Molasses]
#7620745 - 11/11/07 12:17 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I had a sort of similar problem when I wanted to trip for the first time. I went to my closest friends, and they freaked. I told them pros, con, and myths, but they refused to listen and told me that I'm going to "spiral out of control." They basically turned me into a social pariah. One year later, every single one of them wants to try acid with me. Just let things run their course. The important thing is that they do the research themselves.
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Cyrone
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Re: Convincing friends to try shrooms [Re: Cyrone]
#7622729 - 11/11/07 05:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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if your friend is depressed, you probably shouldnt give him shrooms.
I don't think depressed is the right word, he said it in a joking-way (our other friends were around us) but I have the feeling something's really bottled up inside.
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I corrupted like 6 of my friends to try weed and a lot of them love it they dont do it regularly. (one of my friends actually wants to trip with me and a few other people this winter or summer). Just do what I did. just tell them the pros and cons of it. make sure they understand shrooms arent permantly damaging and lead a lot of people to ego death. also be sure to tell them how fucking fun it is and that they arent going to die or be considered a junkie/addict for trying them.
Damn that's so lucky that it worked out for you.. it's just like we can never have a SERIOUS discussion about drugs, they refute it immediately. So I resort to telling them to do some research, go tell me if Wiki says anything addictive about acid/shrooms.. but I doubt they do. One thing that DID break through to a friend was when I showed him a hit of acid, he's like "that's it?"
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mid life crisus at 19? Does he plan on living tio 40? While I would never pressure someone into trying drugs for the first time I suggest using the gateway drug, alcohol (the true gateway drug in my opinion) and then while they're drunk get them high. Hopefully they would be more open minded after that.
Actually it's a "mid mid-life crisis" which is why I said I never heard of it before. But funny you should say that because JUST last night at this apartment party, my friend got drunk and started smoking a cigarette for his first time. Hell, even I smoked out of a bong my first time on campus because I was drunk - first time with tobacco ever. Gettin drunk makes you do crazy things - BUT they won't get the full effects that way! Which is why I'm tryin to balance it..
Blarg I think it's too late. They're all in Chicagoland area, and I'm down at U of I.. I barely am going to see them enough to get them to break through. My only hope is that they themselves have done adventurous things in college, so they'll be open-minded when I come visit...
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Re: Convincing friends to try shrooms [Re: Cyrone]
#7622752 - 11/11/07 05:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I convinced my friend to do them. He was one of the usual skeptics, like going insane, doing retarded things you don't even know you're doing etc.
Then I went into depth of what happens, physically and mentally/emotionally. As well as the spiritual history behind them. I also told them what to be aware of, as far as depression and hidden feelings.
That seemed to win my friend over.
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Re: Convincing friends to try shrooms [Re: spanky43]
#7623895 - 11/11/07 10:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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as has been suggested, get them to try weed first... assuming they've tried alcohol before... let them get used to the idea that different things can make them feel different ways, and how these feelings feel. then i'd suggest a level 1 trip, level 2 trip, etc... i think this is the best way.
make sure you explain about good trips and bad trips... i dont think someone going through a "mid mid life crises" should start off with a level 3+ trip, unless they're a very special kind of person. even with alot of experience, i've had a bad trip which I can easily describe as the most terrifying experience of my life... i'd say someone with issues experiencing that for the first time would be seriously traumatized afterwards.
so, my suggestion is to go slow... there's a difference between people who seek out the psychedelic experience and those who get introduced to it. i'm not saying one is better than the other, just that there's a slight difference in mentality and you should bear this in mind when explaining things and planning the trip. good luck.
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Re: Convincing friends to do shrooms [Re: Molasses]
#7624006 - 11/11/07 11:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Molasses said: I tell people to do their own research and not to be fucking stupid.
Nothing I hate more than the stupid irresponsible drug users who make those of us who are responsible look bad...
true.
after i got into mushrooms and started talking about them everyone wants some, i've asked them if they know anything about shrooms but they laugh and say no. i tell them to read, read and read but they take the substance way too lightly. i won't give a person mushrooms who underestimates them.
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Re: Convincing friends to do shrooms [Re: Cyrone]
#7624076 - 11/11/07 11:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cyrone said: Yeah that's what I try to do, just tell them how it feels, and if they drink I tell them that it's pretty much on the same level as getting drunk, but "jumpier".
Shrooms are nothing like alcohol.
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Re: Convincing friends to do shrooms [Re: TODAY]
#7624149 - 11/12/07 12:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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and using alcohol to introduce someone to shrooms is stupid and irresponsible.
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Re: Convincing friends to do shrooms [Re: Bridgeburner]
#7624340 - 11/12/07 01:28 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i only read the first post, but...
DITCH THE SQUARES!
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It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus. All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV. But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns. Also he got a race car. Is any of this getting through to you?
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Re: Convincing friends to do shrooms [Re: Deity208]
#7624347 - 11/12/07 01:31 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Straight people dont know, what your about They put you down and shut you out You gave to me a new belief And soon the world will love you sweet leaf
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Re: Convincing friends to do shrooms [Re: Bridgeburner]
#7624382 - 11/12/07 01:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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peer pressure! peer pressure! peer pressure! lol
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It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus. All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV. But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns. Also he got a race car. Is any of this getting through to you?
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Re: Convincing friends to do shrooms [Re: Deity208]
#7624392 - 11/12/07 01:58 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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what to do? will he trip? we all gonna fall some day///
Edited by sleepy (11/12/07 01:59 AM)
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Re: Convincing friends to try shrooms [Re: Cyrone]
#7624418 - 11/12/07 02:34 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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pressure = bad
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Re: Convincing friends to try shrooms [Re: Cracka_X]
#7624982 - 11/12/07 09:54 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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People are generally sheep and cannot see outside the box, theyre time will come when/if the time is right
Just remember
"Sanity leaves too many wall to bounce off of, whilst the deranged can walk in any which direction they choose!"
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Re: Convincing friends to do shrooms [Re: Deity208]
#7625112 - 11/12/07 10:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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What for? Is taking psychedelics with people who really don't want to take them a lot of fun or something?
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Cyrone
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Re: Convincing friends to do shrooms [Re: 5tone]
#7691548 - 11/28/07 05:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well, success, my roomate has finally tried weed  I guess that's a step. Again I'm really not trying to do this in a pressure-way, but one other tactic I came up with, is that we live in the suburbs, and in the suburbs there's nothing for 18-21 yr olds to do! That's why people naturally turn to tripping!
... or not
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