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Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes?
    #7618448 - 11/10/07 11:56 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I was curious if anyone had ever dunked and rolled Rye jars like BRF cakes, with any success?


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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7618527 - 11/10/07 12:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Uncased rye fruits poorly, when if fruits at all. Ditto for wbs and any other grain.
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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7618576 - 11/10/07 12:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7625839 - 11/12/07 01:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
Uncased rye fruits poorly, when if fruits at all. Ditto for wbs and any other grain.
RR




The question was "has anyone", not "what do you think".

I have seen at least 5 cases were peeps claimed to fruit rye directly with decent success.

Not all of us need 100% harvest potential, after all, what are you doing with all the extra fruits?


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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7625862 - 11/12/07 02:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Captain Cubensis said:
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RogerRabbit said:
Uncased rye fruits poorly, when if fruits at all. Ditto for wbs and any other grain.
RR




The question was "has anyone", not "what do you think".

I have seen at least 5 cases were peeps claimed to fruit rye directly with decent success.

Not all of us need 100% harvest potential, after all, what are you doing with all the extra fruits?




His answer answered your question. Because he knows the outcome, he has obviously already done it... AND with information on how it turns out.


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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: zathan]
    #7625883 - 11/12/07 02:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Wow, this turned confrontational very fast....

The answer seems to be YES it will work and NO its not the preferred method due to low yirld.


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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: Slimz]
    #7625904 - 11/12/07 02:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I only meant to solicit peeps who had had success.

What is the point of a thread with 50 "no, it won't work" posted to it.

I am sure many people will say no, I was looking for peeps who HAVE had SUCCESS.


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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7625908 - 11/12/07 02:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

what is a 'peep'?
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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7625911 - 11/12/07 02:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If rye will fruit without a casing, then why not in a cake, safe from contams?


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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7625923 - 11/12/07 02:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I only meant to solicit peeps who had had success.

What is the point of a thread with 50 "no, it won't work" posted to it.

I am sure many people will say no, I was looking for peeps who HAVE had SUCCESS.




How do you determine success?


So far, no one has said it won't work, because that's not true.


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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: zathan]
    #7625926 - 11/12/07 02:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I've never been one to do cakes. Even when I did BRF/Verm jars, I crumbled them into a pan and cased it.

The following is straight WBS crumbled and cased.



Either way, whether it's BRF/verm, or any type of grain, I recommend putting it in a pan and casing it.


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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7625950 - 11/12/07 02:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Captain Cubensis said:
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RogerRabbit said:
Uncased rye fruits poorly, when if fruits at all.  Ditto for wbs and any other grain.
RR




Not all of us need 100% harvest potential, after all, what are you doing with all the extra fruits?




That was a silly joke right?:banghead:


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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7625975 - 11/12/07 02:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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The shroomy 1 said:
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Captain Cubensis said:
Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
Uncased rye fruits poorly, when if fruits at all.  Ditto for wbs and any other grain.
RR




Not all of us need 100% harvest potential, after all, what are you doing with all the extra fruits?




That was a silly joke right?:banghead:




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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7626041 - 11/12/07 02:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

Captain Cubensis said:
Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
Uncased rye fruits poorly, when if fruits at all.  Ditto for wbs and any other grain.
RR




Not all of us need 100% harvest potential, after all, what are you doing with all the extra fruits?




That was a silly joke right?:banghead:




No it wasn't a joke, the truth is, some peeps are hobby growers for personal consumption ONLY.

Since most fruits will go bad in about 30-60 days, or at least they will lose potency, what is the point of growing more than you can consume?


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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7626069 - 11/12/07 02:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I answered your question using common courtesy and respect, and based upon experience. I don't make this shit up. If I answer a question, it IS based on experience. Why you chose to go off on a tangent and get pissy I'll never know. I suggest you return the courtesy and respect that is shown to you or you'll not get far around here.
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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7626082 - 11/12/07 02:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i've done it ONE time successfully, but, i had to mix in a lot of verm with the rye, so it would hold moisture, grains don't hold moisture for very long when exposed to lots of FAE, regardless of rh %.
So,

RogerRabbit summed it up best really.


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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: jeetered]
    #7626110 - 11/12/07 02:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Wheres my sword and shield... I detect a flame fest/battle is about to commence.


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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: ThePyschonaut52]
    #7626124 - 11/12/07 02:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

nah no flamefest, RR is right, quit being so disrespectful to respected members that offer you a completely valid answer, and sum it up as to WHY it's the right answer.

there are times it gets on my nerves, seems today, RR Is tired of it himself.


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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7626126 - 11/12/07 02:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I answered your question using common courtesy and respect, and based upon experience. I don't make this shit up. If I answer a question, it IS based on experience. Why you chose to go off on a tangent and get pissy I'll never know. I suggest you return the courtesy and respect that is shown to you or you'll not get far around here.
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WOW, you are always ready to throw down huh Rog? Chill out man, you need to get more sleep...nothing I said was disrespectful to anyone.

Why are you always so crabby? Couldn't you just ignore me please?

What tangent? What pissy? Grow up man, and stop feeling like EVERY SINGLE PERSON online has to BOW DOWN TO YOU.

Hey I have an idea, let's scrap the Shroomery all together and let's everyone BUY Roger's bible!

Oh yeah, the Shroomery makes tones of money via advertising, all of which is created by US, not YOU!


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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7626129 - 11/12/07 02:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

/me scurries off


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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: jeetered]
    #7626158 - 11/12/07 03:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, me too, this place sucks ass!

Talk about dogma.

Why are you so afraid of open discussion Rog?

Anything that contradicts your product is bad right?

Yes, you are correct, you are the MOST experienced myco in the whole WORLD.

Why do you want to cheat everyone of the joy of learning?

Don't worry jackass, this is my last post, have fun chumps!


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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7626183 - 11/12/07 03:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I grew on cased rye and they were a little small but there were many many of them ..


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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7626193 - 11/12/07 03:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

:shocked:

Cased rye can produce some monsters.  However, his original question was fruiting rye like a pf cake, which hardly ever results in a flush.  Adding verm to the rye helps, giving what is sometimes called a rez(reservoir) effect, but casing or spawning to bulk is the preferred method.  Let's all try to keep it nice please.  Nobody benefits by flaming, especially the new people trying to learn.
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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7626205 - 11/12/07 03:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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since it's his last post RR might as well lock it up, coulda been somewhwat of a decent thread.

I was going to recommend some tips on the "rez effect"
that does allow u to fruit "grain cakes"

but OH well, it's still not worth the time, spawn it or case it.


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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7626209 - 11/12/07 03:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Such hatred.

Don't worry, be happy.

Smoke a bowl.


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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7626224 - 11/12/07 03:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

PARTY TIME! WOOO!

Oh, and cubensis, take a chill pill. Stop being such a fucking drama queen. RR wasn't being rude, he was answering your question in a calm, collective manner.

Come back when you get some tampons and your period is over.


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Re: Anyone ever have success fruiting Rye jars like PF cakes? [Re: ThePyschonaut52]
    #7626646 - 11/12/07 04:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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PARTY TIME! WOOO!

Oh, and cubensis, take a chill pill. Stop being such a fucking drama queen. RR wasn't being rude, he was answering your question in a calm, collective manner.

Come back when you get some tampons and your period is over.




I agree. RR will never be rude or tell you anything other than the truth. The man has 32 years of experience under his belt. When he says something, you don't have to listen, but then you'll probably find in the end that he was right.

I personally tried fruiting whole brown rice cakes. It did not work. I got mushies, but they were puny and there were few. It was a waste of supplies and time.


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