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Re: Who Makes LSD? [Re: g00ru]
    #7619533 - 11/10/07 04:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I haven't read this book, but it will give you a glimpse into what kinds of people make LSD.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1434801926/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-9618161-6739848#reader-link

When I got to the part about a lavish missile silo in Kansas, William Leonard Pickard's name instantly popped into my head.

On Todd: http://www.freepickard.org/skinner.html - Krystal Cole (is/was his wife) is mentioned.


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Re: Who Makes LSD? [Re: g00ru] * 1
    #7619556 - 11/10/07 04:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Read the book "The Brotherhood of Eternal Love". It'll give you and idea of how the underground LSD manufacture/distribution works.


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Re: Who Makes LSD? [Re: RobMarley420]
    #7619640 - 11/10/07 05:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

LSD would be a lot more abundant in the U.S. if it weren't for the DEA seizing about two billion hits of acid in South Dakota some years ago..

However, acid's still just as strong as it was in the 60's, if you know the right people you can get it for $20 or less and it'll take control of you for 16 hours.

As for the people who make it...anyone who's witty enough and knows their shit. LSD is quite complicated to make, there's documents of how-to's online and you really need to know your chemistry shit (college-level) in order to synthesize it yourself. Plus, you need access to lots of chemistry equipment, you can't do it in your garage or anything...you need a lab.


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Re: Who Makes LSD? [Re: tyler_0_durden]
    #7619728 - 11/10/07 05:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)
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Re: Who Makes LSD? [Re: Quake3] * 1
    #7620010 - 11/10/07 07:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I love this quote from thegooddrugsguide.com,

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Doses of LSD are measured in micrograms (ug) or millionths of a gram. One ounce of LSD contains enough doses for 300,000 adults. Two suitcases of the stuff would be enough to dose the entire population of the USA.




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Re: Who Makes LSD? [Re: gENERIX]
    #7620139 - 11/10/07 07:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think organised crime sydnicates would be able to get all the equipment and ingredients they need to make it. They have enough money and they know the right people. Most of them probably stick to speed and coke etc, but i can see how someone could be attracted to making lsd, just because you need so little to make so much. They could have a lab working hard for a month, and make enough of the chemical to last them for years. There could be millions of dollars in that.


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Re: Who Makes LSD? [Re: DimensionX]
    #7620730 - 11/11/07 12:13 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

lsd is a special substance bro, it should not be controlled by the drug maffia, who controle speed and coke/crack,

if you read lsd related books suck as acid dreams and lsd my problem child by hoffman, then you would know that it takes a special kinda people to make acid and that it shouldint be made by money hungery fucks like the drug maffia


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Re: Who Makes LSD? [Re: dutchmushroom]
    #7621816 - 11/11/07 12:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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lsd is a special substance bro, it should not be controlled by the drug maffia, who controle speed and coke/crack,

if you read lsd related books suck as acid dreams and lsd my problem child by hoffman, then you would know that it takes a special kinda people to make acid and that it shouldint be made by money hungery fucks like the drug maffia


peace out Dm




Money hungry drug gangs will make whatever is in demand. The truth is that LSD isn't. If it was, it'd be as readily available as weed. If Quaaludes or 2C-T-7 were in demand, we'd see those around too.

So you're right in a way. The fact that it is not in demand screens out the money hungry group, so LSD is made by people who are passionate about the drug. It's important to keep in mind that this is just because the drug is not in demand, and not because ONLY special people can make it.


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Re: Who Makes LSD? [Re: Quake3]
    #7621916 - 11/11/07 01:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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are you a chemist? i am,

have you ever read the lsd synthesis out of alexander shulgins book "tihkal"? i have,

please do not spread misinformation about something you obviously know nothing about,




Maybe you don't actually need to major in it, but to make good 60's quality LSD you should at least have a college level understanding of chemistry. From everything I've read it is not an easy molecule to synthesize. I'm sure there are people who know the synthesis like the back of their hand and don't really understand the chemistry, and those people can probably make some serviceable acid, but it's really just common sense that the uneducated shouldn't be making and distributing LSD. And you're right, I don't have any idea about the process of making acid, that's why I made the thread.


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Re: Who Makes LSD? [Re: g00ru]
    #7622304 - 11/11/07 02:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

im sorry man i was a little hard on you looking bak at what i posted, shows me for posting sober aha


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Re: Who Makes LSD? [Re: dutchmushroom]
    #7622358 - 11/11/07 03:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

in your orginal question, you mentioned mdma.
Is Safrole Oil the hardest to obtain precursor?


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Re: Who Makes LSD? [Re: Fraggin]
    #7622364 - 11/11/07 03:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

No.


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Re: Who Makes LSD? [Re: Robo]
    #7622378 - 11/11/07 03:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Oh... Just wondering since I have access to it.


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Re: Who Makes LSD? [Re: Phish_Dude]
    #7622665 - 11/11/07 04:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

...and some elbow grease.


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Re: Who Makes LSD? [Re: Fraggin]
    #7622685 - 11/11/07 04:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)
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guruu said:
Obviously I'm not asking for anybody specific, I just mean in general.  It's really hard to make, you basically have to have majored in chemistry.  And the equipment is expensive, the ingredients are rare, and the purchase of either will have the DEA all over your ass.  Then, when you take into consideration the risk versus the reward...who in their right mind would ever make LSD?  Is is just rogue college grad students using the college lab, or is it underground people using equipment in their basement...etc.  I guess this goes for MDMA and other synthesized drugs as well.




this is how itss done:crazy2:

A little scoop of plaster mix
Some coffee grounds and mud
And then she stirred it with the ladle
That her Grandmother had bought her
Threw in a pot of melted wax
A forefoot and a hoof
Apple core, worms galore
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Re: Who Makes LSD? [Re: Phish_Dude]
    #7622689 - 11/11/07 04:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

We heard you da first time mon. :rasta:


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    #7622703 - 11/11/07 04:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Who Makes LSD? [Re: dutchmushroom]
    #7622711 - 11/11/07 04:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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if you read lsd related books suck as acid dreams and lsd my problem child by hoffman, then you would know that it takes a special kinda people to make acid and that it shouldint be made by money hungery fucks like the drug maffia
peace out Dm




You don't know what your talking about./the ppl controlling LSD now-a-days ARE money hungry.

You know books but Do you know ppl up the chain?Didn't think so.


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Re: Who Makes LSD? [Re: em_bre_O]
    #7622786 - 11/11/07 05:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

there's a difference between money hungry and making it worth the risk. As for DEA... in america they may be all over you, in other countries though...

and besides you can come across precursors the same way as people go out and buy drugs. just need to know the right people and have the right amount of money to get it discreetly to where you want it. As for a lab... you could build a lab in a farm house out in the middle of nowhere and no one would be the wiser.

if you're smart enough to be able to organise everything discreetly, learning the synthesis isn't all too hard.


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