|
Bill_Oreilly
ANIMALS (the RAINBOW SERPENT)


Registered: 11/12/11
Posts: 26,370
Loc: Boston
|
Re: The worst thing about weed is.. [Re: Quake3]
#26202142 - 09/22/19 01:36 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Quake3 said: the fact that it is safe. It doesn't cause any physical nor mental damage, doesn't hinder your ability to drive, and it makes things fun. There are no withdrawal symptoms, nor a tolerance buildup, and no long term effects no matter how much you smoke. The worst thing about pot is that these qualities make it hard not to become a daily smoker; Other than price, why not?
I've noticed this cycle: People try weed, discover the above and become daily smokers for years on end. They eventually reduce their intake, but that's mainly due to money.
In my experience, regular heavy use results in poor quality sleep, which results in feeling hazy and fatigue all the time. This would be considered a negative, but it really related to abuse rather than the plant itself.
What do you think the worst thing about pot (or being high) is?
It can certainly cause mental damage when purified to a stronger degree and smoked while already...mentally damaged
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
|
Loaded Shaman
Psychophysiologist



Registered: 03/02/15
Posts: 8,006
Loc: Now O'Clock
Last seen: 28 days, 10 hours
|
Re: The worst thing about weed is.. [Re: Bill_Oreilly] 1
#26202146 - 09/22/19 01:39 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
The worst thing about weed is this fucking thread keeps going LOL.
--------------------
  "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one’s ignorance." — Confucius
|
Bill_Oreilly
ANIMALS (the RAINBOW SERPENT)


Registered: 11/12/11
Posts: 26,370
Loc: Boston
|
|
Just like weed. It never fucking stops it just continues on any delusional thinking you've already attained. Weed is a kaniving whore. But she's our whore. That's what it makes her a whore ha
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
|
Loaded Shaman
Psychophysiologist



Registered: 03/02/15
Posts: 8,006
Loc: Now O'Clock
Last seen: 28 days, 10 hours
|
Re: The worst thing about weed is.. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#26202189 - 09/22/19 02:22 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Right, Bill? What a sexy, alluring cunt that Mary Jane is! What a bitch! Lol.
--------------------
  "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one’s ignorance." — Confucius
|
Blabble40
Scorpio

Registered: 11/11/14
Posts: 1,182
Last seen: 1 year, 28 days
|
Re: The worst thing about weed is.. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#26202194 - 09/22/19 02:26 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
The worst thing is no one likes talking about it or anything in the first place, as far as theorizing goes. It isn’t that they don’t want to speculate but if you do bring it up they expect more and more words on it so that you can’t just simply comment. It becomes a job you must devote to.
People can suffer from socialization fixations and just try to hold you to things. It’s all a plot to force socialization, suddenly? You are not free, and people just purposefully misinterpret things on purpose so as to be influenced by anything anyway as an excuse to be “awoken”.
|
Bill_Oreilly
ANIMALS (the RAINBOW SERPENT)


Registered: 11/12/11
Posts: 26,370
Loc: Boston
|
Re: The worst thing about weed is.. [Re: Blabble40]
#26202230 - 09/22/19 03:47 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Blabble40 said: The worst thing is no one likes talking about it
You really think that's the worst thing about weed?
First off, people love talking about weed. Proven by the thread. Second, how would not liking to talk about it be the worst part of it?
Your answer just makes no sense
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
Edited by Bill_Oreilly (09/22/19 03:55 AM)
|
SocalJosh
Wood Ninja



Registered: 06/14/19
Posts: 664
Last seen: 2 years, 3 months
|
|
Quote:
futurefocused said: when i quit smoking it definitely took me over a year to shake off that feeling of being bored 24/7 without it and even longer before any sort of creative juices started flowing. for chronic users and imo esp. the ones smoking dabs the dopamine thing is one of those things that keep people using without really realizing the unintended consequences, similar to a caffeine addiction (the day doesn't start without it even if it is already 2pm)
The dopamine thing? Please explain as to my knowledge cannabis does not contain dopamine?
This thread is basically “here are my personal problems and why I blame them on cannabis”
-------------------- Take it easy man.... But take it!
|
Loaded Shaman
Psychophysiologist



Registered: 03/02/15
Posts: 8,006
Loc: Now O'Clock
Last seen: 28 days, 10 hours
|
Re: The worst thing about weed is.. [Re: SocalJosh]
#26202445 - 09/22/19 08:58 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
SocalJosh said:
Quote:
futurefocused said: when i quit smoking it definitely took me over a year to shake off that feeling of being bored 24/7 without it and even longer before any sort of creative juices started flowing. for chronic users and imo esp. the ones smoking dabs the dopamine thing is one of those things that keep people using without really realizing the unintended consequences, similar to a caffeine addiction (the day doesn't start without it even if it is already 2pm)
The dopamine thing? Please explain as to my knowledge cannabis does not contain dopamine?
This thread is basically “here are my personal problems and why I blame them on cannabis”
I think what the other user was trying to say, is that if you use cannabis out of boredom you start programming your own dopamine kicks. Just like social media clicks. Again, I don't deny this effect at all. This can, does, and will happen with any stimulant - and most activities in general that cause dopamine spikes (sex, etc.).
I'm a >1.0g a day/daily user and I see all sides of the fence on this one equally. It's a trade off. Everything is. The long term consequences of cannabis use are negligible for myself personally and my lifestyle/career.
It's a positive net gain in that aspect. It's never not inspired me to improve myself, because for me cannabis is a tool that helped keep my "true self" ON so I could make those higher level behavioral choices for myself. I also didn't start using cannabis until my 19th birthday. I will happily admit I used to smoke way, way too much on a daily basis (easily destroy 1/8 oz a day, not joking - there's your escapism/dopamine rape if there ever was one). I'm now smoking less than 1g a day and I'm getting the exact same effects, enlightenment, and clarity out of that. That's why I jokingly said "I'm micro-dosing cannabis" in another thread; relative to what I used to smoke, you're damn right that's a micro dose!
HOWEVER - someone struggling and using cannabis as a crutch INSTEAD of upping the root causes of their boredom/existential apathy (I've been there dozens of times), etc - that's where I'd say cannabis starts having negative effects. Replace cannabis with any stimulant at that point though, and it doesn't matter. Hell, I'll play devil's advocate and argue one of the purposes of cannabis is to "get you high" to show you new ways of thinking about yourself, your behaviors, etc. It's a mild psych when smoked. It can get intense when ingested at high levels. That's why I see all sides of the coin on this one.
Vape. Coffee. Masturbation. Hiding from yourself is hiding from yourself. As long as you consciously work on your issues, there is no issue IMHO. Deny yourself the awareness to learn and grow, and life stagnates and becomes a self-induced living hell.
--------------------
  "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one’s ignorance." — Confucius
|
futurefocused
always learning


Registered: 09/13/19
Posts: 28
Last seen: 4 years, 1 month
|
|
agreed. well spoken.
|
ThePoopTree
Gonna get reeealll weird with it


Registered: 06/12/19
Posts: 346
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
|
|
Quote:
SocalJosh said: This thread is basically “here are my personal problems and why I blame them on cannabis”
If your "personal problems" disappear when you stop smoking, then it's reasonable to think that there's something else at play other than just pure personality.
You can ascribe *only* positive things to pot, or you can be objective. Choose.
--------------------
|
SocalJosh
Wood Ninja



Registered: 06/14/19
Posts: 664
Last seen: 2 years, 3 months
|
Re: The worst thing about weed is.. [Re: ThePoopTree]
#26202551 - 09/22/19 10:11 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
If you read my post I never said that I ascribe only positive things. I think it’s ridiculous to label a plant good or bad based on your personal use of it. Or at all. It’s a fucking plant people. Good and bad are labels made up by us. Good or bad to you might be completely different to someone else and the cannabis plant doesn’t give two shits either way. It’s just trying g to live it’s life and propagate until some human fucks decide to use it for their own personal gain and whatnot. Jesus the human need to label stuff is just astounding. We can’t just let something be without thinking “what good/bad uses can I get from this?” It’s pathetic really that the botany and biology of a single species of plant has been reduced to labeling things upon their human use instead of appreciated for what they are. Another expression of life on Earth.
-------------------- Take it easy man.... But take it!
|
ThePoopTree
Gonna get reeealll weird with it


Registered: 06/12/19
Posts: 346
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
|
Re: The worst thing about weed is.. [Re: SocalJosh] 1
#26202558 - 09/22/19 10:14 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
It’s a fucking plant people.
It's a fucking psychoactive drug, people. Fixed.
The rest of your post: I'm reminded of a saying. Keep an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out.
--------------------
|
Tripsten
Stranger

Registered: 10/23/17
Posts: 1,104
Last seen: 2 years, 10 months
|
Re: The worst thing about weed is.. [Re: ThePoopTree]
#26202663 - 09/22/19 11:15 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
The worst thing about weed is it’s cancer community that treats it like a thing that can do no harm to anyone That the notion that weed should complicate by aspect of some ones life has to be kept silent as if they are the ones trying at propaganda now
|
pixelpopper
Crap Artist

Registered: 09/20/13
Posts: 4,022
Loc: Dreamland
Last seen: 3 months, 11 days
|
Re: The worst thing about weed is.. [Re: SocalJosh]
#26202675 - 09/22/19 11:23 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
SocalJosh said: The dopamine thing? Please explain as to my knowledge cannabis does not contain dopamine?
Marijuana produces dopamine when used, same way stimulants do but not to as high of a degree. Eventually, after long term heavy usage, it can interfere with your brain producing dopamine naturally in its own way because its learned it doesn't have to. This is why initially, some people experience the same kind of dopamine good feels and motivation increase while using marijuana, and then many years later can lose this effect. Its a pretty common experience... maybe you haven't experienced it but there's no shortage of people talking about their own experience of this effect. Most of these people don't know about the dopamine correlation though.
Do some googling and read up on the science yourself if you want.
|
pixelpopper
Crap Artist

Registered: 09/20/13
Posts: 4,022
Loc: Dreamland
Last seen: 3 months, 11 days
|
Re: The worst thing about weed is.. [Re: pixelpopper]
#26202677 - 09/22/19 11:25 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
ThePoopTree said:
Quote:
It’s a fucking plant people.
It's a fucking psychoactive drug, people. Fixed.
The rest of your post: I'm reminded of a saying. Keep an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out.
The whole "its a plant!" argument is so dumb to me. Yes, it is a plant. And there are also lots of plants that can be extremely damaging to you, even kill you. So the argument that something is a plant means nothing in relation to its effects on the human body/brain.
|
split_by_nine
i am the liquor

Registered: 07/11/18
Posts: 21,288
|
Re: The worst thing about weed is.. [Re: pixelpopper]
#26202763 - 09/22/19 12:09 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
yes, but being "just a plant", it is 100% harmless in its natural state. not like poison ivy or giant hogweed that will cause blisters on your skin if you come in contact with those. weed has no inherent danger in nature. there is a tiny risk only when you choose to ingest it. so yah, it's just a plant.
-------------------- 🐴 hpoo or die
|
pixelpopper
Crap Artist

Registered: 09/20/13
Posts: 4,022
Loc: Dreamland
Last seen: 3 months, 11 days
|
|
While that may be true, the statement "its just a plant" is still not a valid argument in any way.
And you just sound like a moron for even thinking it is. The kind of morons stereotyped as potheads.
And any potential dangers in this plant are not in physical contact. That doesn't mean there are no dangers involved from its usage. Another non-argument that completely discounts what happens in the body, brain and psyche.
Edited by pixelpopper (09/22/19 12:15 PM)
|
split_by_nine
i am the liquor

Registered: 07/11/18
Posts: 21,288
|
Re: The worst thing about weed is.. [Re: pixelpopper]
#26203089 - 09/22/19 03:08 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
well, if you read the data, cannabis is the opposite of harmful physiologically. it has anti-cancer effects and also neuroprotective properties. it is used to manage pain and sleep schedules. it helps ease the symptoms of epilepsy.. and the list continues. so to say that weed is "dangerous" is the moronic sentiment here.

FOR YOUR HEALTH!
-------------------- 🐴 hpoo or die
|
Tripsten
Stranger

Registered: 10/23/17
Posts: 1,104
Last seen: 2 years, 10 months
|
|
I would say ignoring the fact that it does have harmful effects for many is the dangerous and moronic thing From the simples inability to look outside their own personal experience
|
PinkFloyd_420
Lurking



Registered: 03/07/09
Posts: 203
|
Re: The worst thing about weed is.. [Re: Tripsten]
#26203137 - 09/22/19 03:31 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
inb4...just cause anyway, illbeback
|
|