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I Enjoy Weed Except For...
    #7617860 - 11/10/07 08:14 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

so once my plant finishes and i have a whole lot of weed im gonna start smoking again after a long break

i like weed

its enjoyable

i think most of us can agree on that

the reasons i stopped is because several side effects have a major impact on my life and the progress ive been making since ive stopped

what i would like is advice on how to prevent these from happening or dealing with them

HUNGER:

munchies suck. they hit me REALLY hard. maybe because i have an eating disorder. ive been losing weight like its nobodies business. its changed my life. i feel a whole lot better and im finally becoming confident.

(the secret is to eat less and excersize. in case anybody didnt know that already.)

the thing is...weed affects both of these things making me tired and above all else hungry beyond my wildest dreams. i end up eating soooo much.

so if anyone has some methods in avoiding this taking place thatd be great.

THE BURN OUT:

i hate the burn out even more than the munchies. i like having natural energy. i dont drink coffee or energy drinks or take any sort of energy medicine. and i will not.

the extent to which i become tired and brainless is just plain tragic. i dont get it. why me? i have tried so many things to fght this. INCLUDING adderall and stuff like that. and nothing works.

i also get really depressed. just cause im fucked up like that. and happiness is important at this point in my life. i just got over a breakdown that lasted two years.

now i bet alot of you wont know what to say, but try anyway. id like to hear some comments on how this shit affects other smokers to. just so i know im not alone. and to get a different perspective of it.

otherwise i might not be able to start smoking again.

and that sucks cause there are plenty of pros against the cons

infact

PROs:
inspiration
feelin' good
gets my mind off my troubles
makes everything better
anti-boredom

CONs:
munchies
burn out
cant draw or write too well (and thats all i do)

(would eating weed solve any of these problems?)


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: sirbojangles]
    #7617876 - 11/10/07 08:34 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

munchies are physiological, you can't avoid them but eating some healthy food before you smoke sometimes helps, and the rest is up to your own mind to control your body. You'll have to ignore your stomach or replace the food with something else like tea.

Burn outs are unavoidable to some extent - again, it's physiological. Only thing I could think of would to be to decrease the amount you smoke at one time as well as the frequency you smoke in a given time period

And I don't care what anyone says, you can't really avoid the "braindead" thing from happening. Again, there's physiological things happening that you can control. Some may feel the can focus better with weed or whatever, but it depends on what you're doing. I don't think many people at all are going to find that smoking weed helps you do most mental thinking like calculus or scientific shit but maybe on the creative end it may have a different effect.

Good luck, just don't abuse it, that's all you can do aside from not use it at all.

Sativa strains may not plunge you into a coma as much as indica, as well.


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7617919 - 11/10/07 08:55 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think eating weed would help your problem, it would probably make it worse. For me eating weed was always a psychedelic experience, very trippy to the point where I generally got some mild visuals, more paranoia than smoking too...


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7617922 - 11/10/07 08:57 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

he's right it's all mental. And exercise your brain while high. Read or play video games/memory games. Eat something hearty and you'll only have to eat once or twice a day. Fresh food keeps you energized.


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7618114 - 11/10/07 10:17 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Fresh food keeps you energized.




this is so true. Recently i've begun eating healthier and putting more nutritious foods in my body and the difference in the way the food makes me feel is substantially significant and difficult to go unoticed. I better, more energized, much more SHARPER( as in my senses are functioning at there highest level, on point), more confident, good about myself as just taking the initiaative to eat healthier, and my attention span is up. i also notice the difference in the way dinner food makes you feel when you wake up. you feel more awake.when i eat alot of food thats mostly junkfood type stuff and processed, i feel kinda out of it and sluggish in the morning.

I really hate BURNOUTS tho. i think it is the worst side effect. if I smoke alot all day and then smoke a good amount towwards the night, ill be ready to pass out at like 10 sometimes, it pisses me off.


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: hoopershroomer]
    #7618187 - 11/10/07 10:41 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

munchies can be healthily curbed by drinking juice. the munchies are a physiological result of insulin overproduction. you counter this by ingesting accessible complex sugars... aka juice. drink the juice before and during the high and your munchies will not be anywhere near as intense.

i actually enjoy exercising immediately after getting high. it sets the tone for the high and keeps me from getting into the couch-hole that cannot be escaped.

sounds like getting high may be the most healthy thing i do now that i read this.


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: debianlinux]
    #7618208 - 11/10/07 10:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, if I get high and then have nothing to "do" I get locked into a stoned stuper...nowadays I like to smoke and then go to the gym, play with my dog or do yoga. 

I enjoy weed too, except for being out.  I didn't smoke for about a month and lowered my tolerance and then I started up in the past week after a party, and now I'm out and would prefer to keep having it.  So I guess I like weed except for running out of it.  :smile:

But I like having low tolerance too, so I think I'll take another long break so that when I have it next, it''ll be soooo good.  :smile:


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: MOTH]
    #7618319 - 11/10/07 11:22 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Ive gotten to the point that i dont really get that hungry through out the day anymore.


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: MOTH]
    #7618344 - 11/10/07 11:28 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I like weed except having to pay for it haha.

I am actually fairly productive when I smoke. Pretty much every time I do any cleaning in my apartment I'm really high, I usually get more done at work when I'm high, when I was in school I did homework high quite a bit (minus calculus can't do math high) papers and such came very easy.

I've been working out quite a bit lately and so I've been trying to limit my alcohol intake (I have to drink like 10 beers to start getting drunk so its quite a few calories) so I smoke as a calorie free way to get fucked up (control munchies by eating healthy alternatives instead of keeping junkfood around mmmm spinach)


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: MOTH]
    #7618348 - 11/10/07 11:29 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah, if I get high and then have nothing to "do" I get locked into a stoned stuper...nowadays I like to smoke and then go to the gym, play with my dog or do yoga. 

I enjoy weed too, except for being out.  I didn't smoke for about a month and lowered my tolerance and then I started up in the past week after a party, and now I'm out and would prefer to keep having it.  So I guess I like weed except for running out of it.  :smile:

But I like having low tolerance too, so I think I'll take another long break so that when I have it next, it''ll be soooo good.  :smile:




On getting high and exercising, it's been found that heart rates beat faster than normal at earlier than normal physical "max-out" points, and that it takes less time for one to reach their physical "max-out" limit.  Of course, it doesn't take a scientific study to realize that...and I hate exercising when I'm high, it seems pointless.  Which brings me to the point of this post - why do you smoke before goin to the gym?  Just a curious question


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7618368 - 11/10/07 11:33 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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MOTH said:
Yeah, if I get high and then have nothing to "do" I get locked into a stoned stuper...nowadays I like to smoke and then go to the gym, play with my dog or do yoga. 

I enjoy weed too, except for being out.  I didn't smoke for about a month and lowered my tolerance and then I started up in the past week after a party, and now I'm out and would prefer to keep having it.  So I guess I like weed except for running out of it.  :smile:

But I like having low tolerance too, so I think I'll take another long break so that when I have it next, it''ll be soooo good.  :smile:




On getting high and exercising, it's been found that heart rates beat faster than normal at earlier than normal physical "max-out" points, and that it takes less time for one to reach their physical "max-out" limit.  Of course, it doesn't take a scientific study to realize that...and I hate exercising when I'm high, it seems pointless.  Which brings me to the point of this post - why do you smoke before goin to the gym?  Just a curious question




Why not?  And it's not like I smoke with the plan to go work out.  I just smoke for about a 1/2 hour, start to get antsy and looking for something to do, so I find something to do.  But that's more if I toke up at the beginning of the day.  If I wait until evening, I'm much more prone to just wanting to relax, since my workout is usually already done for the day by then.  So I like smoking at night the best, but the days where I wake and bake, yeah, I like going to the gym.


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: MOTH]
    #7618383 - 11/10/07 11:36 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i enjoy getting high and cutting the grass.


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7618398 - 11/10/07 11:40 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Cocaine will rid you of the burnout. the trick to drugs is to do a lot, and find which drugs will cure the negative effects of others, and so on....


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: nolongerinuse]
    #7618424 - 11/10/07 11:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I dont and wont do coke.


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: nolongerinuse]
    #7618449 - 11/10/07 11:57 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Cocaine will rid you of the burnout. the trick to drugs is to do a lot, and find which drugs will cure the negative effects of others, and so on....


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7618472 - 11/10/07 12:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I've gone to the gym many times while high.  It puts me in a state of mind where I just push myself without questioning anything or even thinking.  I am in the ZONE for working out.  But this only happens if I go right away, otherwise the couch monster will get me and then there is no escape :evil:

As for the other problems.. honestly it sounds to me like you're better off without smoking.  Smoking is cool but it has a lot of drawbacks as well, and that's how some people end up falling into the lazy, stereotypical stoner archetype.  Because those effects are very common and often hard to fight.  That's simply what the drug does, man.

But eating a meal before smoking might help, and if you restrict yourself to fruits and vegetables while stoned, I guarantee the munchies won't be a problem anymore.  I have this problem too though, I always get the munchies and it sucks.

I don't think there's any way to escape the burnout though, other than smoking less, or hyping yourself up on stimulants.  And yes, the burnout sucks hardcore.  That's why it's hard for me to understand how some people smoke all day, every day.


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: Plok]
    #7618533 - 11/10/07 12:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

man i write a lot better when I'm high than when I'm sober.


And i think the weed munchies are kinda overrated....alcohol gives me much worse munchies than pot


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    #7618554 - 11/10/07 12:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Munchies are one of my favorite parts. As for the braindead burnt-out thing, that really only happens to me when I smoke mids, when I smoke good shit I feel energetic and great.


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    #7618566 - 11/10/07 12:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm planning on quitting for the same reasons.

The burn out fucking sucks. I'm a very healthy person, all I eat is fresh fruits and veggies and never fast food, but I still have that horrible burn out when I come down, and mine seems to be exactly like yours- feeling spaced out, not all there, drained, and when I smoke regs there's a headache that accompanies it all. The ONLY solution I've found to this is alcohol. I only smoke now at night when I can drink, it makes being drunk and high so much more enjoyable, but I know it's not for everyone.

The munchies... son of a bitch munchies. I don't know to how to get rid of them, bu eating beforehand and then sipping on water while your high seems to help. Fill yourself up with liquid.


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: g00ru]
    #7618572 - 11/10/07 12:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Who the hell goes the gym sober? i never work out- F tghat shet.

When i'm high i like to roll down a hill- like when you were a kid, lay on stomach with arms and legs straight out (like a pencil) then roll down a soft hill. FUN AS HELL


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: nolongerinuse]
    #7618669 - 11/10/07 12:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I go to the gym blitzed almost everyday. I do get in the ZONE like someone else said. Oh and ya it is true you will get your max heart rate quicker. One time when I was on a tread mill with a heart moniter I decided to check my heart rate after ten minutes. I was WAYYY off the chart. I was somewhere close to 200. It was funny because I wasnt even running that hard. I thought the machine was broken for awhile, then I thought I was broken, then I remembered oh yeah Im high


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    #7618882 - 11/10/07 01:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well, as for eating healthy while you're high, you've already got your answer. I don't smoke a lot of pot, but when I do, I'll only do it late at night, a few hours before I go to bed. That way, by the time you're ready to go to bed your high is just wearing off and slipping into a warm bed is the best damn feeling in the world. Eight hours later you're feeling perfectly refreshed after a nice deep sleep.

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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: g00ru]
    #7618957 - 11/10/07 02:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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As for the braindead burnt-out thing, that really only happens to me when I smoke mids, when I smoke good shit I feel energetic and great.




EXACTLY good bud is the key. I haven't bought mids in FOREVER I might smoke some mids if someone offers but if I'm buying its dank only.

I can do cardio high but I can't do heavy lifting high. I'm not much of a stimulant fan but I can have a serious fuckin workout if I do a couple lines before lifting its a great feeling.


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: sirbojangles]
    #7618989 - 11/10/07 02:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The worst thing about weed for me is it makes it feel OK to play Counter Strike Source in my pants for 8 hours solid.

It helps me focus on my job, unfortunately I can't and wouldn't be stoned at work.

But seriously I just smoke it so my friends think I'm cool. But I don't inhale


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: disturbed]
    #7618995 - 11/10/07 02:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Working out + weed has gotta be bad on your heart. yuck, talk about strain


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7619100 - 11/10/07 02:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I just got some weed. But today it's just yoga for me.


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: nolongerinuse]
    #7619287 - 11/10/07 03:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Munchies: I find consumption an hour before dinner is perfect. I like a big dinner anyway.

Burnout: I smoke only during the evenings, so by the time I'm coming down I'm ready for sleep. Except for this new stuff. That shit keeps me high for hours.

Strain: Very important. I had some lovely stuff that let me write and be very creative. I have some skunk now that hits so hard I can barely type a few sentences together. I shall have to try a smaller amount next time!


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: MOTH]
    #7619298 - 11/10/07 03:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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[Why not? And it's not like I smoke with the plan to go work out. I just smoke for about a 1/2 hour, start to get antsy and looking for something to do, so I find something to do. But that's more if I toke up at the beginning of the day. If I wait until evening, I'm much more prone to just wanting to relax, since my workout is usually already done for the day by then. So I like smoking at night the best, but the days where I wake and bake, yeah, I like going to the gym.



I just don't like it because it kinda defeats the point of exercising for me & makes me poop out way quicker than I normally would. Plus, with biking it just makes me apprehensive about hitting crap and makes me not as sharp so more prone to do something stupid and fall. Thirdly I don't like it because I know it's straining my heart.


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7619456 - 11/10/07 04:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Different strokes for different folks.  :grin: :stoned:


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: MOTH]
    #7619832 - 11/10/07 06:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

ive wondered if the paranoia is because my life really is fucked up and i notice it under the effects of marijuana, or if theres another explaination. if life is like a rollercoaster, the weed comes in handy in some places and others not. tool. its a tool. that ive burned myself with many times


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: nolongerinuse]
    #7620729 - 11/11/07 12:13 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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new2grow said:
Cocaine will rid you of the burnout. the trick to drugs is to do a lot, and find which drugs will cure the negative effects of others, and so on....



:what: are u joking me kid? get your cocaine consumption promotion ass the fuck out of here. and the rest of your advice is terrible as well :nonono:

visionstoreality i know what you mean sometimes the weed does get me tired hella fast.
but i actually do like working out while high. hoopin' is ok when im high, i kinda feel like im a little more focused and i feel like i can push my self more sometimes just because im in an altered state.

but as far as skateboarding, im probably high about 80% of the time i skateboard. skateboarding and getting blazed go hand in hand, almost like drugs and music.  sometimes i feel im in the ZONE when im skating and high, ill be stomping ever fliptrick smooth as hell and stuff. 've learned most of my skateboarding tricks blazed btw  :lol:

sometimes when i smoke tho ill get an urge to workout in some way ie: skate, play ball, or lift wieghts. but now that i've thought nabout the conept of your heart having to work a little extra harder, i might consider cutting back working out when im blazed.'

good thread tho :thumbup:


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: sirbojangles]
    #7620932 - 11/11/07 01:18 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I love the ganja anytime anywhere..I need some more some to think of it, these beers arent enough! :wink:


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Re: I Enjoy Weed Except For... [Re: hoopershroomer]
    #7621162 - 11/11/07 07:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

if your heart has to work harder then wont you get MORE of a workout in the long run

like isnt that the point of exercizing...to work your muscles

so wouldnt that be a good thing

more workout by doing less


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