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So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do?
    #7615436 - 11/09/07 02:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Like how is the breakdown of the chemicals...how do they affect the body?

Liek my friend said you hallucinate because the brain bleeds

Or if someone could provide a link, much appareciated


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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: Hyper_Panda_GO]
    #7615454 - 11/09/07 02:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Your brain will not bleed. 

Psychedelics are actually relatively harmless compared to many other substances.  The potential side effects are of a more psychological nature.

Check out Erowid's Psychoactive Vaults.  There is a ton of information debunking common myths surrounding psychedelics, and how pretty much anything most people think they know about psychedelics (Shroomerites excluded of course :wink:) is complete bullshit. 

As to the specific mechanism of action, there are a bunch of theories, but I don't think there is a definitive answer as of yet. 

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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: Hyper_Panda_GO]
    #7615461 - 11/09/07 02:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: bmy]
    #7615472 - 11/09/07 02:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

7,000 posts and you give an inkling of thought when a friend tells you psychedelics make your brain bleed?


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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: circularvortex]
    #7615558 - 11/09/07 02:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

In short, Psylocin has two main effects that I am aware of, both of which are comparable but to the effects of LSD.

1) The molecules themselves physically resemble those of serotonin , and thus create a feeling of calm euphoria.  See bmy's (mispelled =P)link on serotonin for details.

2) I'm not very versed in the science here, but psylocin is shown to reduce the inhibiting effect between neurons, which in effect opens flood-gates which are normally severely moderated (which is healthy).  This phenomenon enables the extremely deep thinking and understanding which is commonly reported, but it also creates the sensory (usually visual) distortions due to this effect distorting both occipital lobe (actual vision) and associative parts of the brain; the latter part combines with the former... and you have distorted vision along with a distorted ability to identify them: delirium.

Combine "euphoria" and "delirium" and you have psychedelics.  :mushroom2:

I encourage you to look more in depth into this though!  This is just a generalization off the top of my head!  If anyone can elaborate, or provide a link to one of the other sixteen thousand threads that better explain this, please do!


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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: circularvortex]
    #7615568 - 11/09/07 02:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

He told me that before I made the account

I dunno, I was thinking about how for all the shit I put into my body I'm woefully uninformed about it


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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: Hyper_Panda_GO]
    #7615578 - 11/09/07 02:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The guy who started me on mushrooms was pretty convinced that "tripping" was the brain's reaction to a deadly poison. He was pretty confident that mushroom trips were in essence "near death experiences".

This is both clearly false, and a common example of the many misconceptions regarding one of the safest drugs I know of.


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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: shroom_ninja]
    #7615593 - 11/09/07 02:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I should have mentioned in the first post, that interestingly, and similar to LSD, the active ingredients in mushrooms only trigger the release of what's already being produced by your brain. For me, this is relatively comforting, since you are really amplifying something your brain already does naturally.


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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: shroom_ninja]
    #7615603 - 11/09/07 02:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

well are dying and being convinced you are dying really that different mentally?


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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: Konyap]
    #7615655 - 11/09/07 02:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If the mental effects experienced near-death are due to a lack of oxygen, then it is different.


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    #7615659 - 11/09/07 02:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: Hyper_Panda_GO]
    #7615706 - 11/09/07 03:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

There's a big article on Bluelight about this.


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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: Hyper_Panda_GO]
    #7615734 - 11/09/07 03:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

read up

http://www.shroomery.org/6300/The-Mushroom-and-the-Synapse




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I should have mentioned in the first post, that interestingly, and similar to LSD, the active ingredients in mushrooms only trigger the release of what's already being produced by your brain. For me, this is relatively comforting, since you are really amplifying something your brain already does naturally.




I think you have the concept wrong, what do u think is being released? Sounds like your confused with the effects of stimulants


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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: DeathCompany]
    #7615766 - 11/09/07 03:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

They act as keys that fit in to the locks of your brain..
both metaphorically and semi-realistically
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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: spanky43]
    #7615789 - 11/09/07 03:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/units/addiction/drugs/mouse.cfm

Great Source...

And note the presentation of the material without biased, and its a reputable source.


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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: boletusoftruth]
    #7615837 - 11/09/07 03:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

thanks for posting that, I was looking all over for it.


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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: DeathCompany]
    #7615871 - 11/09/07 03:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

the serotonin (5ht 5-hydroxytryptamine) flooding effect is to keep the excited neurons firing longer each time they are stimulated.

By this impulses appear to fade more slowly than usual

Slowly fading sensations and images smear together with new ones to make richer color, trails and thickened experiencing in general, even the sense of multiple simultaneous realities and time dilation.

LSD and the other psychedelics somehow get additional serotonin flooding effect going in a way that is not fully understood. the effect is far larger than the number of 5ht like molecules available in a dose of lsd.


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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7615887 - 11/09/07 03:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Science of the norepinephrine/seratonine/dompamine/Monoamine Oxidase systems are based on tests of trial and error and theories and radio isotope dye PET/MRI scans.
So, in a nutshell, no one really knows.....
That goes for how your anti-depressants work as well.


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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: Fraggin]
    #7616138 - 11/09/07 05:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Science of the norepinephrine/seratonine/dompamine/Monoamine Oxidase systems are based on tests of trial and error and theories and radio isotope dye PET/MRI scans.
So, in a nutshell, no one really knows.....
That goes for how your anti-depressants work as well.




... and paracetamol! :smile:


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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: PJDIDDLE]
    #7619904 - 11/10/07 06:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It is actually

Or jack shit is maybe too strong, I know somethings


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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: DeathCompany]
    #7619940 - 11/10/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: Helixx]
    #7620390 - 11/10/07 09:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: DeathCompany]
    #7621007 - 11/11/07 02:41 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I should have mentioned in the first post, that interestingly, and similar to LSD, the active ingredients in mushrooms only trigger the release of what's already being produced by your brain. For me, this is relatively comforting, since you are really amplifying something your brain already does naturally.




I think you have the concept wrong, what do u think is being released? Sounds like your confused with the effects of stimulants




DMT is released.


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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7621041 - 11/11/07 03:40 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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http://www.tripzine.com/listing.php?smlid=697




View the pdf, that is exactly what these drugs do to you, if ya wanna know


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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: opensaysme]
    #7633113 - 11/13/07 10:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

bumo

Thanks for the information everyone, I'll start cracking down on it tomorrow, and maybe others can find this topic useful


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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: boletusoftruth]
    #7633274 - 11/13/07 11:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/units/addiction/drugs/mouse.cfm

Great Source...

And note the presentation of the material without biased, and its a reputable source.




oh my god?! what did they do to those poor mice

J/k. I think the ecstasy one looks like he's enjoying himself


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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: citricacidx]
    #7639047 - 11/15/07 10:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: Hyper_Panda_GO]
    #7639079 - 11/15/07 10:54 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

haha why does the meth mouse look like its falling asleep??


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Re: So what exactly does acid/mushrooms do? [Re: shroom_ninja]
    #7649155 - 11/17/07 09:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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that "tripping" was the brain's reaction to a deadly poison.




You can take a lethal dose of strychnine and you certainly won't be tripping. You'll just get real sick and convulse to death.

Drugs like LSD and Psilocybin are not toxic at all.
There's no lethal dose, and you can trip the night away with either of those.


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