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One-Third of Popular Songs Refer to Substance Abuse
    #7611428 - 11/08/07 02:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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THURSDAY, Nov. 8 (HealthDay News) -- Could country music be worse for kids than rock music? If you judge by the number of alcohol and drug references in songs, a new study suggests the answer could be yes.

Researchers who looked at the bestselling songs in several genres from 2005 found that 37 percent of top country songs featured references to drugs or alcohol, compared to just 14 percent of rock songs.

"It's not like country music is as wholesome as mom and apple pie," said Ralph DiClemente, a professor of public health at Emory University who's familiar with the study findings.

But country couldn't hold a candle to rap music, whose singers referred to substance use in a whopping 77 percent of songs.

The study, released Wednesday at the American Public Health Association annual meeting, in Washington, D.C., didn't examine whether there's a link between song content and how kids behave. Still, research does suggest that children aged 8 to 18 listen to popular music about two hours a day.

"It's good for us to know that this exposure is there so that we can go the next step," said study author Dr. Brian Primack, an assistant professor of medicine at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine. "We can talk to kids about it and say what we think is correct, and what is not."

The study researchers looked at 279 of the bestselling songs in 2005, based on Billboard magazine charts, in five genres they considered popular with kids -- rap, country, R and amp;B/hip-hop, rock, and pop.

In total, one-third of songs referred to substance use. Just 9 percent of pop songs and 20 percent of R and amp;B/hip-hop songs did.

Singers referred to alcohol and marijuana the most and were more likely to refer to what the researchers called "positive" consequences. "What we found is that very often, sexual, social and emotional consequences were positive, but physical and legal consequences were negative," Primack said.

What about veiled references to drugs or alcohol in songs? Primack said there just aren't many of those types of songs today -- compared to, say, The Beatles' "Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds," thought by some to refer to LSD, although the band said that wasn't the case.

"Today's music is not nearly as subtle as the Beatles were," he said.

And what about country music and the findings that it often refers to alcohol instead of drugs? "I'm not saying that's great, but we don't know if it really makes a difference," Primack said. "Maybe kids listen to songs with alcohol, and it doesn't affect them one way or another. Maybe it affects them a great deal."

DiClemente agreed that research hasn't shed much light on exactly how the entertainment that kids watch or hear affects their behavior. For example, it's hard to tell if violent TV makes kids violent or if they were already aggressive and liked violent TV for that reason, he said.

"The question again is, what the relationship is to the behavior of people, if there is any?" DiClemente said. "It would be nice to know."

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Find out more about music's influence on children at the U.S. Office of National Drug Control Policy.

SOURCES: Brian A. Primack, M.D., assistant professor of medicine, University of Pittsburgh; Ralph DiClemente, Ph.D., professor, public health, Emory University, Atlanta; Nov. 7, 2007, presentation, American Public Health Association annual meeting, Washington, D.C.


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Re: One-Third of Popular Songs Refer to Substance Abuse [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7611471 - 11/08/07 02:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

One third? that sounds completely made up.


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Re: One-Third of Popular Songs Refer to Substance Abuse [Re: Limerick]
    #7611995 - 11/08/07 04:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm pretty sure this is about as bullshit as bullshit gets.


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Re: One-Third of Popular Songs Refer to Substance Abuse [Re: learningtofly]
    #7612011 - 11/08/07 04:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm pretty sure this is about as bullshit as bullshit gets.




2nd that motion.


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Re: One-Third of Popular Songs Refer to Substance Abuse [Re: nk pakelika]
    #7612044 - 11/08/07 04:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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But country couldn't hold a candle to rap music, whose singers referred to substance use in a whopping 77 percent of songs.







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Re: One-Third of Popular Songs Refer to Substance Abuse [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7612084 - 11/08/07 05:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

da niggaz like they drugs...


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Re: One-Third of Popular Songs Refer to Substance Abuse [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7612138 - 11/08/07 05:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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b0red5tiff said:


What about veiled references to drugs or alcohol in songs? Primack said there just aren't many of those types of songs today -- compared to, say, The Beatles' "Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds," thought by some to refer to LSD, although the band said that wasn't the case.

"Today's music is not nearly as subtle as the Beatles were," he said.






You're just not creative enough. My response? DUH. So many songs refer to or are clearly inspired by drugs. Even those shitty elevator muzak type songs they play in department stores reference it.

Over the next week, listen to every piece of music you hear everywhere as though it were talking about drugs.


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Re: One-Third of Popular Songs Refer to Substance Abuse [Re: toastandjam]
    #7612151 - 11/08/07 05:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Oh, and one more thing: Could we please stop calling any reference to any illegal drug as "abuse"? Please? Pretty please with whipped cream on top and a whippet left over afterwards?

Use v Abuse. Know it, morons.


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Re: One-Third of Popular Songs Refer to Substance Abuse [Re: toastandjam]
    #7612348 - 11/08/07 06:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Oh come on, using drugs is abusing drugs because drugs are bad, mmkay.


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Re: One-Third of Popular Songs Refer to Substance Abuse [Re: MrKite1]
    #7612542 - 11/08/07 07:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

jolly ranchers make it taste good

sizzurp is that purple drank that make ma leeeeeeean


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Re: One-Third of Popular Songs Refer to Substance Abuse [Re: tealeaf]
    #7612904 - 11/08/07 09:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

reminds me of something a man named bill hicks once said...


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Re: One-Third of Popular Songs Refer to Substance Abuse [Re: ThePeruvianTorch]
    #7613024 - 11/08/07 10:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Is that the quote from Tool's Third Eye? Only place i know it from unfourtunatly.

I thing drugs have done good things for us, and if you dont think drugs have done good thing than do me a fvor. Go out tonight ad take all your tapes and all your records and all your CD's, and BURN them, because you know what. All the musicions who made all that great music through out the years, realllly fucked up on drugs.

Im probably wrong, but it still fits.


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Re: One-Third of Popular Songs Refer to Substance Abuse [Re: ThirdEyeOpening]
    #7613336 - 11/09/07 12:01 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I agree that the title of that article is misleading. Substance USE and substance ABUSE are two different things.


Edited by ShroomyJay (11/09/07 12:02 AM)


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Re: One-Third of Popular Songs Refer to Substance Abuse [Re: ShroomyJay]
    #7614558 - 11/09/07 10:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

This is the line that really threw me for a loop:

Find out more about music's influence on children at the U.S. Office of National Drug Control Policy.

Misinformation, anyone?


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Re: One-Third of Popular Songs Refer to Substance Abuse [Re: Plok]
    #7618719 - 11/10/07 01:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

BAN ALL MUSIC


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Re: One-Third of Popular Songs Refer to Substance Abuse [Re: kake]
    #7625473 - 11/12/07 12:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

:hitler:


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Re: One-Third of Popular Songs Refer to Substance Abuse [Re: Plok]
    #7634913 - 11/14/07 12:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I do not think this article is total bullshit. I personally think the 1/3 is to low. Since the 70's music has been strongly influenced by drugs.

I agree it should not be called abuse. Unless your actually abusing it to the point it is effecting your life. If you can use it in moderation then you should be fine. Thats what they teach us about alcohol. If you use it in moderation you wont die. If you abuse it YOU DIE. haha.

People like getting fucked up because the world is fucked up. The world will never be a peaceful place until all drugs are legalized and everyone reliazes that some drugs are bad and you shouldn't use them. People will die. Oh well. I hate to say it but, people die every day. People stop using drugs when there closest friends die from it. The stupid/ uneducated people will die first.

If drugs where legalized this world would be a better place....probably after a couple years of it being legal.

Music is life. Its how people express oneself. If most GOOD music is based off of drug use, then drugs should be legal.

A little off topic. Almost all the best shows on TV involve drug use. Many of those shows show you the good things and the bad things.


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Re: One-Third of Popular Songs Refer to Substance Abuse [Re: johnm214]
    #7635430 - 11/14/07 02:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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But country couldn't hold a candle to rap music, whose singers referred to substance use in a whopping 77 percent of songs.










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