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Jungle/Brazil/Huge Umbrella Mushroom (update)
    #7610539 - 11/08/07 10:44 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

So, I went to the jungle looking for some Brazilian species.

That was a bit hot and 100% RH. And I have to say I didn't find much. There are A LOT of plants like you can't walk but you don't find much mushrooms, this is the first time I went there so this isn't a rule.

BUT, I found this HUGE mushrooms which I would use as my umbrella. My foot have about 26cm so you can have an idea:







And this is a little friend I found to divide my chips potatoes.



The mushrooms are printing. I guess this one have a brown spore print. There is two purple mushrooms, one with no gills but pores, and two others. I'll try to identify them as soon as I have a spore print. They all grew from dead wood chips and leafs.


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Re: Jungle/Brazil/Huge Umbrella Mushroom [Re: shroower]
    #7610640 - 11/08/07 11:07 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Wow, that mushroom is fucking tall!!!

Not sure what it is... It kinda looks like Macrolepiota procera, the Parasol Mushroom, but the cap is way off. Stilll looks like it is probably white spored.


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Re: Jungle/Brazil/Huge Umbrella Mushroom [Re: CureCat]
    #7610666 - 11/08/07 11:15 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Man, if you're right I'll have plent of edibles because they are everywhere in that place full of plants :laugh:


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Re: Jungle/Brazil/Huge Umbrella Mushroom [Re: shroower]
    #7610674 - 11/08/07 11:17 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

And it really looks like that, it have a big nipple in the center of the cap. I think the rain explains the cap not as usual.


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Re: Jungle/Brazil/Huge Umbrella Mushroom [Re: shroower]
    #7610726 - 11/08/07 11:28 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The cap looks very different to me. Comparison of your mushrooms cap with M. procera.



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Re: Jungle/Brazil/Huge Umbrella Mushroom [Re: CureCat]
    #7611310 - 11/08/07 01:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

mushrooms in the jungles are very scarce as the contract part the template woods, for the hight humidity and hight temperature what makes all the organic compounds degrade faster so there is not enough material to sustain , grow for many mushrooms for the fast that all degrade, however many wood destroyers or ligninn eaters are the most common mushrooms , many ascomycete,lepiota are very common in all jungle forest, polypore, schizophyllum,lentinus, some agaricus,leucopaxillus ,scleroderma,
few micorrisic as scleroderma and few amanita species, very few grow in the compost leaves for the fast they degrade but some marasmius,xilaria,pterula,there is also many lichen that survive in the woods also .
one thing that is really interest about the mushrooms of the tropical or jungle forest is that only certain mushrooms grow in unperturbed jungles with lot of shadow as example is phillipsia , cookeria,coenogonium,amanita,ramaria,marasmius,.
mushrooms common in sunny location and with more disturbance are pycnoporus ,pogomyces , lentinus,pleurotus, schizophyllum, this mushrooms can be use as biological indicators of the good health or areas of the jungle.

great pictures i wonder what specie are, that first picture ,,also the lepiota like that appears next.


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Re: Jungle/Brazil/Huge Umbrella Mushroom [Re: cactu]
    #7612017 - 11/08/07 04:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The spore print is white as expected. Any idea? :smile: The cap is really different compared to Macrolepiota procera :frown:


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Re: Jungle/Brazil/Huge Umbrella Mushroom [Re: shroower]
    #7612153 - 11/08/07 05:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Here is two more photos of the same specie with another camera,





The cap has a soft texture... like a soft rubber or a ... rubberish-sponge :confused:


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Re: Jungle/Brazil/Huge Umbrella Mushroom [Re: shroower]
    #7612236 - 11/08/07 06:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Can we get a photo of the stem base??


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Re: Jungle/Brazil/Huge Umbrella Mushroom [Re: CureCat]
    #7612289 - 11/08/07 06:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

How are the gills attached?

I guess it is a Macrolepiota, but not one of the common species.


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Re: Jungle/Brazil/Huge Umbrella Mushroom [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7612314 - 11/08/07 06:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, I spent a while searching for a fitting Lepiotoid species. This one is very unusual.

I want to see a closer look at the base because it is slightly enlarged (common with the Lepiota like mushrooms), and I want to make sure there is no volva, so we can definitively rule out Amanita.


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Re: Jungle/Brazil/Huge Umbrella Mushroom [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7612327 - 11/08/07 06:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

CureCat, I have no picture of that actually :frown: But I can say the stem was a bit thickned in the direction of the base forming a small bulb BELOW the woods/leafs, no concentric rings or things like that near the base.

Alan, the gills are free.


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Re: Jungle/Brazil/Huge Umbrella Mushroom [Re: shroower]
    #7612363 - 11/08/07 06:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

CureCat, also, Volva was not present in the mushroom after removing, I even digged the place to see if there was something I forget but there was nothing, just some mycelium in the soil/woods/leafs.


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Re: Jungle/Brazil/Huge Umbrella Mushroom [Re: shroower]
    #7612402 - 11/08/07 07:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Do the Macrolepiota Genus have a soft/rubber/sponge like cap? I never touched one of that. Even drying the cap somewhat keep the form. When fresh the cap was very soft to touch.


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Re: Jungle/Brazil/Huge Umbrella Mushroom [Re: shroower]
    #7612578 - 11/08/07 07:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Lepiotoid caps are typically dry, often scaly, sometimes very slightly viscid.

At first I thought it might be a Termitomyces species, but those have pink spores.


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Re: Jungle/Brazil/Huge Umbrella Mushroom [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7613144 - 11/08/07 10:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i guee i will never be able to id this ones, i spend a lot looking for something i found many other thing do , ha ha, i will end it that i found out that many lepiota grow in the jungle , that brazil have many, that are not many studies on then ,i found some glowing marasmius if you found some, and that some are edible,
ha ha . sorry i will give up on this one this is the more closer look alike i found
http://www.uel.br/proppg/semina/pdf/semina_23_1_20_53.pdf


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Re: Jungle/Brazil/Huge Umbrella Mushroom [Re: cactu]
    #7613786 - 11/09/07 05:22 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

That's ok. It just proves that Brazil needs more mycologists :laugh:
Hopefully I'll be a good one in some years.

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Re: Jungle/Brazil/Huge Umbrella Mushroom [Re: shroower]
    #7615970 - 11/09/07 04:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Very cool shroower. I hope we see more shroom pics from Brazil. It is very interesting to see the habitats in other countrys.

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