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OfflineZalusar
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Drug test
    #7610460 - 11/08/07 10:21 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Ok, here's the deal, part of my bond supervision is I have to take 'random' drug tests. They basically come every 2 months. And I have like 2 days notice. I have on today, I stopped smoking about a week ago(cause I knew it was about time for one to come), I excercise frequently. Stopped excercising a couple days ago; anyways.

They used to do drug tests at a doctors office which would let you lock the door to the bathroom. I had substituted once there before when the test caught me off guard.

This time they have moved it to a new location, which is at the 'Drug Treatment Court Office' for my county, who I am assuming will have someone watch me. I have been eating nothing but beans and peas(soluble fiber) for 2 days, and this morning and last night I drank a bunch of sure gel(soluble fiber) and I have been waterloading all day. I am passing my at home drug tests(although the line isn't as dark as it is on the clean urine I have obtained, so I know it won't pass a GC/MS)

Should I just go in with my own piss, or should I try to substitute and risk getting caught?


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Re: Drug test [Re: Zalusar]
    #7610489 - 11/08/07 10:28 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

you could always say you were around someone who tokes? if its only a small trace then risk it, i would only risk substitution if you have MAJOR thc in you.


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Re: Drug test [Re: haymaker]
    #7610519 - 11/08/07 10:39 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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haymaker said:
you could always say you were around someone who tokes? if its only a small trace then risk it, i would only risk substitution if you have MAJOR thc in you.




If you're already on probation or parole, this will surely get you in trouble as you are supposed to avoid criminal activity and associating with those involved with criminal activity as per your decree.

If they run your piss through a GC/MS machine, then you're not going to pass if you have been smoking.

Substitution is your only bet. Use an elmers glue bottle under your sack. If they watch you pee, it's doubtful they will be staring at your cock.


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Re: Drug test [Re: Fraggin]
    #7610533 - 11/08/07 10:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

A week sounds like a lot of time... just go with your own piss as long as you've been drinking lots of water.


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Re: Drug test [Re: Cyrone]
    #7610573 - 11/08/07 10:50 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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A week sounds like a lot of time... just go with your own piss as long as you've been drinking lots of water.




Waterloading is a bad idea with a GC/MS test. It will get you a false positive, and in some cases, thats about as bad as a positive.
The labs are able to tell if you 'diluted' your body from waterloading by testing the % of creatine in your urine. If it is too low, they will consider it a diluted sample, rate the test as a false positive, and request a second sample. Generally second samples requests are always split specimen tests. With a GC/MS test, the best way to beat it is by being clean, or by substitution.....
Also, be sure to list nearly every OTC drug you can think of on the form you fill out....
If you have slightly elevated cannibinol levels, they may write it off due to the amount of Tavist D, Tylenol, Kava, Valerian Root, Robitussin, sudafed, nyquil combination.....

Sounds to me like you need to question your priorites, Staying out of Jail vs. Getting High.


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Re: Drug test [Re: Cyrone]
    #7610577 - 11/08/07 10:51 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Do they ever run it through a GC/MS without a prelimenary positive for these sorts of things?

I have to bring $20 to pay for it so I wouldn't think so(because I know GC/MS costs more)...but I don't know.


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Re: Drug test [Re: Zalusar]
    #7610583 - 11/08/07 10:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not on probation, I wouldn't go to jail if I fail. I would probaly just get a talking to the first positive, then if I failed again have to go to some classes. It just wouldn't look good when I go to court.

It is for pretrial bond superivision.


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Re: Drug test [Re: Zalusar]
    #7610586 - 11/08/07 10:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Zalusar said:
Do they ever run it through a GC/MS without a prelimenary positive for these sorts of things?

I have to bring $20 to pay for it so I wouldn't think so(because I know GC/MS costs more)...but I don't know.




If they use DOT Drug Testing Guidelines, then no.
It is at the discretion of the person ordering/paying for the drug test.
$20 is hardly going to cover the nurses time handling your pee + a $3 five panel test... I dunno what you got going on...


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Re: Drug test [Re: Fraggin]
    #7610587 - 11/08/07 10:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yea I don't even know how getting high could be fun when you have to go through all that. If it were me everytime I got high would be wasted thinking about if I'm gonna fail and go back to the slammer.


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Re: Drug test [Re: PeterGriffin467]
    #7610600 - 11/08/07 10:56 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, will I abstained until the first drug test, when I saw they let you lock the door to the bathroom. I knew if somehow I did get popped with a test with dirty urine I could just substitute SOOOOO easily(and have).

But they just recently opened their own testing facility. And I don't know how it goes down there.


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Re: Drug test [Re: Zalusar]
    #7612088 - 11/08/07 05:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well I brought the substitution in just in case I had the chance to use it....I didn't. The bathroom was the size of a closet with a giant mirror right beside me and the officer standing 6 inches behind me. So I used my own piss, guess we will see how it turned out by the end of next week.


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