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Re: Dem's hope to ban Alaskan oil drilling [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7611080 - 11/08/07 12:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well then bring it on!

shit it costs almost a C note to fill up truck!

Sadly the more i read about it the more it seems like a hoax...

If it had any potential someone like Bill Gates would have invested a few hundred million dollars towards it years ago....


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Re: Dem's hope to ban Alaskan oil drilling [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7611094 - 11/08/07 12:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Dem's hope to ban Alaskan oil drilling [Re: afoaf]
    #7611114 - 11/08/07 01:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

sounds great, why no investors?

the easiest way for the rich to get richer is to invent a new source of wealth.......


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Re: Dem's hope to ban Alaskan oil drilling [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7611136 - 11/08/07 01:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

it's been recently opened, it was a Navy project for a while.

Bussard passed recently, this coupled with the funding cut as a result of
wartime spending reprioritization has probably complicated things.

The project only recently halted, but quite dramatically as they reached
a point where they can build a revised working model.


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Re: Dem's hope to ban Alaskan oil drilling [Re: afoaf]
    #7611140 - 11/08/07 01:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I honestly Hope it comes true soon. Really cheap energy would solve a lot of problems.


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Re: Dem's hope to ban Alaskan oil drilling [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7611222 - 11/08/07 01:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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lonestar2004 said:
I honestly Hope it comes true soon.  Really cheap energy would solve a lot of problems.




:thumbup: It would solve some of our biggest problems.


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Re: Dem's hope to ban Alaskan oil drilling [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7611314 - 11/08/07 01:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

you can donate to the project.


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Re: Dem's hope to ban Alaskan oil drilling [Re: afoaf]
    #7611421 - 11/08/07 02:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

When someone has a proven working device and they are ready to build the power plant. i will invest some $$$$$$$$$$$$ along with many other greedy people/countries.

Same with cure for cancer etc. :smirk:


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America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

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Edited by lonestar2004 (11/08/07 02:32 PM)


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Re: Dem's hope to ban Alaskan oil drilling [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7611431 - 11/08/07 02:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/project015.html

Cold Fusion Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

"We believe that before the year 2000 there will be prototype cold fusion powered automobiles, home heating systems, and compact electrical generating units.:"


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Re: Dem's hope to ban Alaskan oil drilling [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7611547 - 11/08/07 02:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

lonestar2004 said:
Quote:

Seuss said:
fusion research,





what type of fusion?

Nuclear fusion power? The environmentalists would never allow it.




It is the only hope. Everything else is a wank.


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Re: Dem's hope to ban Alaskan oil drilling [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7613139 - 11/08/07 10:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

There is no technofix for this particular problem. As long as any energy surplus is only used to further expand the global population as in the past, we are only delaying the inevitable.

Which is a thinning of the herd.


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Re: Dem's hope to ban Alaskan oil drilling [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7613746 - 11/09/07 04:04 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

> When someone has a proven working device and they are ready to build the power plant

The problem is you won't. Fusion power, once working, is free power. There is no return for your monetary investment, and unfortunately, it requires a huge monetary investment to make it work. So, unless you have a few hundred billion dollars to flush away for the good of mankind, you have no reason to invest in the technology and every reason not to.


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Re: Dem's hope to ban Alaskan oil drilling [Re: Seuss]
    #7616434 - 11/09/07 06:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

it's not globally free energy with unlimited capacity.

as long as it requires large capital expenditure for the infrastructure
there is still a market since none of us will be able to DIY a IEC in
our garage.


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Re: Dem's hope to ban Alaskan oil drilling [Re: afoaf]
    #7616996 - 11/09/07 09:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If that thing really worked, they could raise two million pretty quick.


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Re: Dems hope to ban Alaskan oil drilling [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7617934 - 11/10/07 09:02 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

ANWR isn't the only place in Alaska to find oil

Oil in Alaska
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0605/feature1/index.html


Shell is planning to make oil from oil shale and putting it on the market in the near future.
http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/30/magazines/fortune/Oil_from_stone.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2007110111

I own 40 shares of this stock which more than doubled at the price I bought it at.
http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/apwire/97d776ca002e33bf2a96b84abd742c3c.htm
They believe they found another 8 billion barrels of oil. I bought a news letter for about $49 for half a year subscription mainly about oil and natural gas companies and I bought only one of their recommendations, PBR, and I'm up over $2,000 for that investment in less than a year. I'm getting your money, juvenile delinquents! That's right!
http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=pbr&sid=0&o_symb=pbr&x=27&y=6

Also, there's companies that are working on making natural gas and gasoline from coal.

Those US owned companies are working you hard, Canadian juvenile delinquents, and putting a lot of the money into my pocket. See how they're doing it here. Those puppet politicians in Canada are working for Washington and Supply Side Jesus! That's right, hippies!
http://www.canadianedge.com



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Re: Dem's hope to ban Alaskan oil drilling [Re: Seuss]
    #7618826 - 11/10/07 01:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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If we dumped the money that we are putting into securing oil interests (i.e. war on terror) into fusion research, there would no longer be an energy problem. However, a whole lot of very wealthy people would immediately lose their monopoly.




I am curious, how long and how much money do you think it would take to convert every car and every other fossil fueled power machine into a fusion powered machine?

For the foreseeable future, fossil fuels are the way it simply has to be. Or, maybe not foreseeable future, but for sometime yet to come.

When the world is as densely populated per square inch as NYC, then we simply won't need cars and things such as that, it will be awesome, the only things needing fuel will be transport vessels(planes, boats, and whatever else we have invented) It will be awesome! We can walk to a place within minutes and find whatever it is we are searching for. Maybe, by the time that happens fusion energy will be a viable option.


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Re: Dem's hope to ban Alaskan oil drilling [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #7618914 - 11/10/07 01:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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When the world is as densely populated per square inch as NYC, then we simply won't need cars and things such as that, it will be awesome, the only things needing fuel will be transport vessels(planes, boats, and whatever else we have invented) It will be awesome!




You really need to watch 'Soylent Green' for a reality check.


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Re: Dem's hope to ban Alaskan oil drilling [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #7618927 - 11/10/07 01:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

And still, even after we have cyphered a way to utilize fusion, it wouldn't be at all a bad idea to control the rest of the world's fuel resources, or do we allow them the same luxuries of fusion as a we ourselves. One of the reasons we beat Germany in the second world war was because we had so much gas, and at that time they virtually had none. What if they had had an unlimited supply, things might be different now.

The ramifications of everything while non apparent are still relevant. These kinds of shifts take years to plan strategically on all levels of the Geo-political spectrum.


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Re: Dem's hope to ban Alaskan oil drilling [Re: zorbman]
    #7618943 - 11/10/07 01:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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When the world is as densely populated per square inch as NYC, then we simply won't need cars and things such as that, it will be awesome, the only things needing fuel will be transport vessels(planes, boats, and whatever else we have invented) It will be awesome!




You really need to watch 'Soylent Green' for a reality check.




How many acres of land are we going to devote to growing gas for our machines?

Eventually we will run out of land healthy enough to feed our cars, the corns simply won't grow because the soil is nutrient depleted and then we have the same problem. Its is only a renewable resource as long as we have acreage to grow it. So if you think that green gas is the way to go, sure maybe for a little while.


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Re: Dem's hope to ban Alaskan oil drilling [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #7622554 - 11/11/07 04:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I say hemp is the answer. But it'd also pollinate high quality outdoor crops everywhere :-(


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