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What does it mean when....
    #7609090 - 11/07/07 10:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Rye grain start bursting during the soak?

My grain is 10hrs in to the soak and I noticed alot of busted grains.
it looks like something shot out of the grain.

Is this the bacterial endosperm hatching or something else.


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Re: What does it mean when.... [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7609173 - 11/07/07 10:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Make sure you use cold water. Maybe its the quality of your grain. Size matters on how much they will soak before bursting. Tryi rinsing your grains half way through your soak, it helps, you'll see it in the water discarded.

You don't want more than 10% of your grains busted. Remember that if you simmer.


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Re: What does it mean when.... [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7609187 - 11/07/07 10:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

xD
that would be the seeds germinating, rye grain is a seed
you could grow a plant with those lolzz

the way you take the guesswork out of which seed to use when growing shrub is to soak two paper towels in water then place your pot seeds between them on a paper plate in a warm place, you end up with little seedlings bursting out of the seeds that can be planted the same as an ungerminated seed

as you're trying to grow mushrooms and not rye, you don't really want this to happen, try keeping your soaking jars in the fridge


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Re: What does it mean when.... [Re: anarchOi]
    #7609213 - 11/07/07 10:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I believe RR recommends using hot water during your prewash and when you fill your soak water. I have followed that and have not once had germinated grain, even waiting as long as 36 hours.


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Re: What does it mean when.... [Re: trippindad82]
    #7609244 - 11/07/07 10:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i'm not sure that the initial temp of the water is important
hot water to rinse would be a good idea, hot water works best for rinsing anything incase you guys haven't noticed xD

generally more seeds germinate when incubated during germination, so lowering the temp during the soak would be ideal for lowering the amount of sprouters

anywhere below 60 but above 32 should give you next to no sprouts


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Re: What does it mean when.... [Re: anarchOi]
    #7609258 - 11/07/07 10:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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anarchOi said:
xD
that would be the seeds germinating, rye grain is a seed
you could grow a plant with those lolzz

the way you take the guesswork out of which seed to use when growing shrub is to soak two paper towels in water then place your pot seeds between them on a paper plate in a warm place, you end up with little seedlings bursting out of the seeds that can be planted the same as an ungerminated seed

as you're trying to grow mushrooms and not rye, you don't really want this to happen, try keeping your soaking jars in the fridge




kinda like marijuana!


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Re: What does it mean when.... [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7609269 - 11/07/07 10:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yea i just did 9 rye jars following rr's vid with the hot rinse and hot soak and only had maybe 10 or so burst kernals it wasnt much


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Re: What does it mean when.... [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7609276 - 11/07/07 10:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

"when growing shrub"

:crazy2:

i'm not really up to date on RR's methods as i haven't watched his videos, i'm too cheap to buy em

i'm supposing the hot water should be extremely hot water, i'm also going to guess that this is to semi-sterilize the seeds preventing germination


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Re: What does it mean when.... [Re: anarchOi]
    #7609358 - 11/07/07 11:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I did rinse with hot water and I use RR's tek also.

I just don't get why it bursting in relitivaly cold water.


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Re: What does it mean when.... [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7609374 - 11/07/07 11:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

maybe your rye is just great quality

i might suggest putting it in a pot and bringing it to a boil for 10 mins, then rinse well and soak


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Re: What does it mean when.... [Re: anarchOi]
    #7609530 - 11/08/07 12:04 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm using Bob's red mill Organic Rye Berries
only 10.95 for 25lbs


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