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Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips
    #7609075 - 11/07/07 09:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Wouldnt a good idea for a beginner to trip to NOT warn them about bad trips? Most people that I know that have tripped and had a bad experience only had it becasue somebody told them about the consequences of a bad trip, and this in turned ironically caused one, due to the fear of having one. Same thing happened to me. Imagine saying, "Just wait, Jonny, ur gonna have the time of your life, its gonna be pure bliss, and there is absolutely no way you cant enjoy yourself on this!". Jonny would in turn be very happy, not nervous at all, and more than ever eager to have an enjoyable trip.


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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: rungold315]
    #7609091 - 11/07/07 10:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Although the theory is good, responsible drug use requires a stable body of knowledge.


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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: rungold315]
    #7609095 - 11/07/07 10:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

good point I agree with you I suppose. the first few times I tripped back in the day I was just basically told it was crazy and I ended up enjoying myself. but if the person has negative aspects of their life in their head its bound to comeup even if they weren't told about having bad trips. it also may cause unexpected panic because they were somewhat misinformed about what the drug does

In the end I would just tell the person that they need to have a positive mind set + setting to have a good time on the drug and not even go into bad trips


btw there is no need for the word "nigga"


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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: rungold315]
    #7609097 - 11/07/07 10:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think if we didn't tell anyone about bad trips then people who are no where near ready to trip would have a very very bad trip.

Mindset is important but just because you go into a trip with a good mindset doesn't mean anything. The slightest catalyst can completely turn a trip from being complete bliss, to utter panic.

I think it would be better to inform users about bad trips, what to expect, and how best to handle, so that if they do have a bad trip, they aren't in the complete dark.


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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: mikeytro]
    #7609211 - 11/07/07 10:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

btw there is no need for the word "nigga"




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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: Mastamike1118]
    #7609284 - 11/07/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Nah nigga...fuck dat,ya heard? nah mean


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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: Liquid_Dimension]
    #7609342 - 11/07/07 11:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The less one knows the more they will be impacted. The more one knows the more one will absorb. Getting the right balance is the trick.


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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7609366 - 11/07/07 11:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Tell them there is a possibility of having a bad trip, and if they start to worry punch them in the face and take there mushrooms.. Then explain to them that they lost there chance.


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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: rungold315]
    #7609393 - 11/07/07 11:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I know what you're saying. When I introduce someone new to mushrooms I'll not really talk about a "bad trip". I just tell them, "just go with the flow," and they always have a good time. If they bring it up, I just explain what constitutes as a "bad trip" and what to generally expect.

I don't know if any of this made any sense...


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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: implee]
    #7609441 - 11/07/07 11:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

That's not very nice at all.


I think it's best to just have an adventerous attitude or just generally ready to take a journey. Because it will take you somewhere and if you fight It, it seems that would be really bad.

I don't even think it's necessary to tell people about bad trips. People know already.I think It could seriously trigger a bad trip though when people become worried and nervous about their actions because they're scared they might send themselves into a bad trip.


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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7609480 - 11/07/07 11:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:


The less one knows the more they will be impacted. The more one knows the more one will absorb. Getting the right balance is the trick.


:bongload::thumbup:couldnt agree more


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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #7609491 - 11/07/07 11:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Rabidbaboon said:
I think if we didn't tell anyone about bad trips then people who are no where near ready to trip would have a very very bad trip.

Mindset is important but just because you go into a trip with a good mindset doesn't mean anything. The slightest catalyst can completely turn a trip from being complete bliss, to utter panic.

I think it would be better to inform users about bad trips, what to expect, and how best to handle, so that if they do have a bad trip, they aren't in the complete dark.




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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: rungold315]
    #7609512 - 11/07/07 11:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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mikeytro said:
btw there is no need for the word "nigga"



NIGGA PLEASE.


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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: Helixx]
    #7609521 - 11/08/07 12:01 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I agree only to a certain extent - that extent being the amount of mushrooms that is being consumed.

Give Johnny 2 dried grams of cubes and tell him "you're going to have an awesome time with not a worry in the world!". I think Johnny might very well have the time of his life without ever weaning over to the "bad" side.

Give Johnny 4 grams dried and tell him "Just wait, Jonny, ur gonna have the time of your life, its gonna be pure bliss, and there is absolutely no way you cant enjoy yourself on this!".

Just wait till Johnnies face begins to melt off his skull and he sees a friendly face morph into an evil monkey turd demon, and then closes his eyes to escape the hallucinations only to realize that with his eyes closed the hallucinations are even MORE VIVID AND BIZARRE. Johnny now feels he has no control and doesn't understand whats going on. He doesnt see this as a "bad" trip. He sees it as the end of his fuckin life as he knew it.



So indeed, knowledge is the way. Besides, a "bad" trips are essential for an inflated or misguided ego.


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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: Ginseng1]
    #7609552 - 11/08/07 12:09 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: ZShroom]
    #7609680 - 11/08/07 01:01 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I just dont like having to hear peopel go back and forth about being worried about "seeing spiders or snakes" its annoying -=/


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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: implee]
    #7610630 - 11/08/07 11:04 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

So indeed, knowledge is the way. Besides, a "bad" trips are essential for an inflated or misguided ego.

holy shit niceeee that shit is real ass shit


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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: rungold315]
    #7611133 - 11/08/07 01:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

In theory, it sounds like the right route.  If they aren't thinking of the possibility of having a bad time, they'll be less likely to.
But then, if they happen to start freaking out, completely unaware that freaking out can occur, they will probably believe they are going to die, or that they are locked in limbo or some crazy thing and wind up doing something really stupid.  Like trying to kill themself to get it to stop.  Or stripping down to their underwear and jumping out of bushes onto cop cars :lol:
I know that your theory could help, but at least in some situations it would probably do alot more harm than good.


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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: rungold315]
    #7613978 - 11/09/07 07:28 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

"The grim meat-hook realities..." - HST

Here's a niffty little guide that was recently posted on Erowid.

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/basics/basics_article3.shtml#small

I find that changing my surroundings and keeping myself somewhat occupied to be helpful.


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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: rungold315]
    #7614005 - 11/09/07 07:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

imagine not knowing what horrible things a trip can bring...

Knowing is better.


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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: Limerick]
    #7614278 - 11/09/07 09:44 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: rungold315]
    #7614292 - 11/09/07 09:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

This is an interesting point. I remember a quote from Ken Kesey saying "We didn't have bum trips in those days"- he spoke about how, before the media started a huge hysteria around bad trips, they were incredibly rare.


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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: Limerick]
    #7615442 - 11/09/07 02:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If you prepare people for all aspects of life and not just train them in the positive.. You are preparing them for major upset in the future. To know what could go wrong with any situation is to have the big picture.. Someone might read the cons on the subject and find that mushrooms aint for them.. saving them from what could possibly be a horrible experience for them and anyone present. Shrooms are definitely NOT for everyone, so a full understanding on the matter is a must. They are an awesome source of enlightenment for most of us.. but for some it could be a dismal journey through their own perceived demise. What kind of people would we be if we didn't spell out the pros and cons of the matter?
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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: Limerick]
    #7615611 - 11/09/07 02:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I've tripped about 20 times now on shrooms or cid, and i have only had 2 bad trips...actually I would just say 1 because one of those 2 times was going awesome until the cops pulled a gun on me while I was sitting on a bench in a park and arrested me. But I think people should just know how to handle it if they ever do get a bad trip... my one bad trip was a solo so no one could talk me out of me telling myself that I went insane.... until I called a friend eventually and he picked me up from the nature center I was freakin out in, that and sublime made me feel tons better and I thuroughly enjoyed the rest.


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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: apfrommsp]
    #7615801 - 11/09/07 03:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i'm tripping balls and this thread is so funny!


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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7615810 - 11/09/07 03:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

To me, if they don't even know enough about psychedlics to realize a bad trip is possible without you telling them, I don't think I would consider them a good candidate.


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Re: Maybe we should stop tellin niggas about bad trips [Re: boletusoftruth]
    #7616625 - 11/09/07 07:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Gotta pick your battles


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