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shroower



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ID please (update for specie 2#)
#7608622 - 11/07/07 08:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Found these when walking on the fields. Just trying to figure out what are them. Looks like a P. cubensis look-alike huh?
Specie 1#



Habitat: Fields in Brazil, straight from cow dung. Spore print: Dusty brown (on the pic) There's a membranous annulus in all of them. No brusing, after lots of minutes.
Edited by shroower (11/07/07 09:16 PM)
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: ID please [Re: shroower]
#7608749 - 11/07/07 08:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Interesting. I have no idea what it is.
A brown spored thing with a ring that grows on dung? We have nothing like that here.
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shroower



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That's cool. I wish I had a microscope to determine the micro structures.
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Re: ID please [Re: shroower]
#7608784 - 11/07/07 08:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Probably an Agaricus
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shroower



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Re: ID please [Re: jet li]
#7608790 - 11/07/07 08:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I thought that, but found no species like this yet. It's sad Brazil doesn't have a good mycology background for identifying these things from the South.
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jet li
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Re: ID please [Re: shroower]
#7608836 - 11/07/07 08:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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What about Lepiota? I'm afraid I don't even know what color spores Lepiotae have.
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shroower



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Re: ID please (Specie 2# Pan. subbs?) [Re: shroower]
#7608858 - 11/07/07 09:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well, I'm almost sure these are Panaeolus subbalteatus, would be nice to have a confirmation:
Specie 2#







Spore print: black in deposit.
Edited by shroower (11/07/07 09:15 PM)
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shroower



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Re: ID please [Re: jet li]
#7608881 - 11/07/07 09:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
jet li said: What about Lepiota? I'm afraid I don't even know what color spores Lepiotae have.
I think Lepiota is restricted to white-spored spiecies
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cactu
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Re: ID please [Re: shroower]
#7608917 - 11/07/07 09:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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is likely to be an agaricus i also think that there is some relations with dung and agaricus around here to but never see that specie, should Be very wide spread with all the cattle from the area you must have, all Cebu , in what part of south Brazil are you in if not too much to ask only close locations not exact location. my dad study in Brazil and love felluada, i do too, and the samba. maybe is good with mushrooms..
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shroower



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Re: ID please [Re: cactu]
#7608968 - 11/07/07 09:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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West of São Paulo...
(shit! I'm having a migraine attack with aura right now... almost blind with a lot of zig-zaggies in my vision)
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cactu
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Re: ID please [Re: cactu]
#7608985 - 11/07/07 09:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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whoa those paneolus lokk very promising , very likely to be subbalteatus , did you notice any bluing in the base or micelium seem pretty active to me , certanly a subb i bet but a brasil variant maybe.. your seasom is starting , i´m i right . your should look for all the other mushrroms that are active in brasil are you aware of all the species in your area. if not http://www.scribd.com/doc/89841/Jochen-Gartz-Magic-Mushrooms-Around-The-World http://www.azarius.net/encyclopedia/29/Psilocybe_cubensis/ http://www.raysahelian.com/mushroom.html this is a good one too http://historyofalcoholanddrugs.typepad.com/alcohol_and_drugs_history/hallucinogens/index.html all my best.
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Edited by cactu (11/07/07 09:41 PM)
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shroower



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Re: ID please [Re: cactu]
#7609016 - 11/07/07 09:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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No bruising in them... (I think it's not that common to have blue bruises in subbs?). They definitelly got darker but I can't see blue though.
The season is starting now. I'm a bit aware of the species. Actually I'm looking for species of Panaeolus, P. cubensis, Psilocybe hoogshagenii, P. brasiliensis and others... There are probably species to be discovered here since there are no mycologists walking around.
Fucking migraine, I can't barely read
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cactu
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Re: ID please [Re: shroower]
#7609062 - 11/07/07 09:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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good is good to be well inform .
i wish you luck  and that you show us that part of the world , i don use to much medicine ,always like natural method , and for migraine there is only a solution for me took to jah .  all my best.
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