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Anonymous #1

NA and psychadelics...
    #7608437 - 11/07/07 07:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Eh, so I'm trying to stay clean, but I also am interested in the spiritual aspects of taking mushrooms and/or trying DMT, and I wonder if I'm just lying to myself to find a way to get messed up.

I'm aware that entheogens such as LSD, mushrooms, DMT, and the like have no real addiction potential, and my problems stemmed from using other drugs as a crutch, but I still wonder if my thinking is flawed.

I'm pretty sure I can't adequately judge myself in this area so I'm asking what you all think.

I know a big part of staying clean is finding a good sense of spirituality, and while I wouldn't consider myself especially lacking in the spiritual department, I really feel I would like to delve deeper.

Thoughts?


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Anonymous #2

Re: NA and psychadelics... [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7608450 - 11/07/07 07:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Just because they're drugs doesn't mean they're drugs, if ya know what I mean. Psychedelics aren't drugs, they're entheogens.


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Anonymous #1

Re: NA and psychadelics... [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #7608540 - 11/07/07 07:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, that's my view, too, in a sense.

I just hope that I don't trigger a desire to go back to my old substances.

Like I enjoy this sense of freedom from having to get fucked up and to nullify my emotions.

But with entheogens, I'm doing the opposite. I'm confronting them, and learning. With LSD, I had sharper perceptions on life for months after using it

I guess I have to make sure the setting and people I do it with are good.

My friends are supportive of me in everything I choose, and I'm glad for that, and I know they'd take care of me and keep me from doing anything stupid.


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Anonymous #3

Re: NA and psychadelics... [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7608554 - 11/07/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

PSYCHEDELIC YOU STUPID FUCK!


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Anonymous #2

Re: NA and psychadelics... [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7608598 - 11/07/07 07:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Ibogaine :grin:


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Anonymous #1

Re: NA and psychadelics... [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #7608655 - 11/07/07 08:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Lol. Whoops. *shrug*


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Anonymous #4

Re: NA and psychadelics... [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7608667 - 11/07/07 08:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

clean is clean...cut that shit out


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Anonymous #5

Re: NA and psychadelics... [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7608729 - 11/07/07 08:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

So what if you take them to get fucked up? The important thing to do is enjoy them.


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Anonymous #6

Re: NA and psychadelics... [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #7608986 - 11/07/07 09:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I've found psychedelics discourage the use of such decadent substances. I rarely feel like smoking cigs when I'm on acid or shrooms, and never feel like drinking, though those are two of my favorite poisons.

And like someone else mentioned here, there's always ibogaine... there is definitely a very clear, bold line visible between phenethylamine and tryptamine psychedelics and the "rest of the drugs." There are drugs and there are entheogens. :smile:


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Anonymous #7

Re: NA and psychadelics... [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #7610139 - 11/08/07 08:15 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

youre in NARCOTICS anonymous. eat the fucking shrooms and dont worry about it. its not like you can get hooked on them. most people enjoy them less the more they do them.


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Anonymous #7

Re: NA and psychadelics... [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #7610144 - 11/08/07 08:17 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
clean is clean...cut that shit out




better not take any OTC medicine either. not even aspirin. clean is clean right?


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Anonymous #8

Re: NA and psychadelics... [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #7610160 - 11/08/07 08:25 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
So what if you take them to get fucked up? The important thing to do is enjoy them.




at some point in life, responsibilities override the "ok'ness" of getting fucked up.


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