|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
blahhaha
Stranger
Registered: 10/02/07
Posts: 10
Last seen: 15 years, 7 months
|
introduction psychedelic
#7605627 - 11/07/07 04:51 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
soo, i want to dig into psychedelics i have acid and mushrooms available, but i can't decide, which one i should go for
i'll tell you about some of my purposes, why i want to use psychedelics, and maybe, some of you may tell me, which one of the two suits me best
(excuse my bad english)
1. I'm not interested in spiritual stuff Meeting higher beings and entities from other worlds is not what i want to experience I also do NOT want to experience ego-death yet I'm not religious in the christian sense, nor in the buddhist sense, nor in any other sense, i believe in energy, of which everyting and everybody consists, however i do tolerate other beliefs
2. I want to improve my brain functionality I want to organise my brain and to find new approaches to intellectual and emotional problems I want to achieve a more objective perspective, that is less biased by my ego I want to use psychedelics for more or less scientific, and not for spiritual purposes
3. I'm very interested in psychology I think a lot about mechanisms of the brain and i would like to find out more about how my brain works and how brains work in general
4. I love music, especially electronic music and I do it myself too I would appreciate, if my musical horizon would be expanded at least a bit, and i would come up with new concepts
5. I love drawing and art and want to improve my drawing style
6. I want to improve my creativity in every respect
7. Last but not least, I would like to have a good time
now i know, that a drug won't press a button turn me into a hyperintelligent, hypercreative being but these are just guidelines for you to tell me, which of the two psychedelics would suit me better i also know, that they affect everyone differently, so rely on the experiences YOU had with them
thanks in advance
Edited by blahhaha (11/07/07 04:52 AM)
|
AlCapwn
ID Reset, take that subpoena


Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 2,957
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 2 years, 7 months
|
Re: introduction psychedelic [Re: blahhaha]
#7605668 - 11/07/07 05:35 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
LSD, for sure. Although once you try LSD, if you like it, I'm sure curiosity will have you try mushrooms shortly after. Then you can really chose which one you like.
-------------------- Huuuuurrrrrr!
|
truffleupagus


Registered: 02/19/06
Posts: 3,103
|
Re: introduction psychedelic [Re: blahhaha]
#7605776 - 11/07/07 07:08 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
blahhaha said: 7. Last but not least, I would like to have a good time
I'm glad you put this in there too. I was gonna say that it's okay if you do it for the fun of it once in a while too.
I tried acid before mushrooms and I think it suited me well to do them in that order.
|
psychejam
Musician


Registered: 09/17/07
Posts: 380
Loc: Surfers Paradise, Queensl...
Last seen: 8 years, 11 months
|
|
Well I've only tripped on mushrooms three times, but everytime I had these amazing, life-changing thoughts relating to how I can be a better person and how to succeed in life. I've never tried LSD, so I can't vouch for it, but I highly recommend mushrooms.
Although I did experience HPPD problems for a few days afterwards...kinda scary, especially if you convince yourself that the symptoms are permanent!
Good luck, my friend.
-------------------- "You mean we're smoking dog shit, man?!"
|
today mylove



Registered: 12/04/04
Posts: 2,473
Last seen: 2 months, 4 days
|
Re: introduction psychedelic [Re: psychejam]
#7605872 - 11/07/07 08:09 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
acid sounds like your perfect match
|
pong
kretan




Registered: 02/09/06
Posts: 4,311
Loc: west coast
|
Re: introduction psychedelic [Re: today mylove]
#7606124 - 11/07/07 09:46 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
eat alot of acid, i feel that mescaline might be nice for you but then again ive never tried it.
--------------------
|
Robo
R Series 66Y
Registered: 05/08/07
Posts: 14,861
|
Re: introduction psychedelic [Re: blahhaha]
#7606204 - 11/07/07 10:12 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
I did LSD before psilocybe mushrooms, though I wish I would have done them the other way around. I say you go for the mushrooms first, then LSD, then Mescaline (which beats them all IMO)
|
iBruiseBlue
Stranger

Registered: 06/23/07
Posts: 98
|
Re: introduction psychedelic [Re: Robo]
#7607058 - 11/07/07 01:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
I don't think it really matters. Both suit what you are looking for, so you should try them both and decide which one you like better. I ate psilocybes 40+ times before I ever dosed LSD, and I still prefer the mushrooms.
|
cagerplaya247
Acid Head


Registered: 11/05/07
Posts: 59
Last seen: 15 years, 9 months
|
Re: introduction psychedelic [Re: iBruiseBlue]
#7607272 - 11/07/07 02:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
I think you should do a low dose of mushrooms first and then work your way up to LSD because you sound like you would like it a lot. LSD can be very energetic and static especially if you listen to techno.
|
xile


Registered: 10/04/07
Posts: 63
|
|
I introduced my friend to psychedelics with mushrooms, he shortly after did acid and said it's superior for him. His way of describing the difference is Mushrooms are a paintbrush, Acid is a pen. Meaning, on mushrooms his thoughts are somewhat clouded because of the body effects. Acid is more of a mental trip and allowed him to go deep in my mind and expand it.
I'm yet to try acid, but hopefully will be able to soon. From your descriptions, and what I've heard acid sounds like a good first bet.
|
Ness1
Spreading myinvisible wings


Registered: 10/01/07
Posts: 621
Last seen: 16 years, 1 month
|
Re: introduction psychedelic [Re: xile]
#7607302 - 11/07/07 02:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
I hate to say it, but every time you take a psych you have the possibility of experiencing ego death. It seems that very profound experiences such as ego death can be completely unrelated to dose. This isn't necessarily the norm, but it isn't uncommon.
-------------------- I know what they'll find, it's in their mind, it's what they want to see. Spare me from the light, here comes the night and here I'll stay, waiting for darkness.
|
haymaker
Mr Psychonaut




Registered: 10/26/07
Posts: 1,374
Loc: United Kingdom
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
|
Re: introduction psychedelic [Re: xile]
#7607309 - 11/07/07 03:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
LSD has more visuals, so it might help with your drawing, but as for the NON-religous/spiritual thing? you may not have a choice. all psych's have that sort of effect on me, even at a party.
-------------------- "Make hay while the sun shines" My Trade List
|
hightimesreader
Half assed question asker



Registered: 07/18/06
Posts: 2,543
Loc: In the air conditioning
Last seen: 11 years, 10 months
|
|
Dude, I just stared at your avatar for like... 5 minutes.. Do the skulls turn a little and move diaganally towards the face that flashes off and on? I can't tell if it's mooving 
As for you mr. mushrooms or acid boy.. lol jk, but really, I've never dosed acid so I can't REALLy say eat mushrooms over acid BUT I CAN say eat mushrooms becuase it's a shorter delve into the experience then a twice as long journey. I personally would have FREAKED out if had tried acid before mushrooms I think. Mushrooms were pretty intense the first couple of time I did them.. I want to try acid, wish I had a connect in VT.. jeeze.. Try the shrooms a few times and ajust to a "psycadelic type mindset" and then see how you feel about trying acid... Maybe it'll be what you really wanted but baby steps.. It's your brain, and you have it for a while...
My HTR
-------------------- I'm hunting for The Following ethnos. For experiments, hunting finds and any other contributions, check out My journal. HTR A new leaf turned over.. I'm too old for this shit.
|
EllisDSox
King Hella!

Registered: 01/22/07
Posts: 25,730
|
Re: introduction psychedelic [Re: blahhaha]
#7607393 - 11/07/07 03:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
1. I'm not interested in spiritual stuff Meeting higher beings and entities from other worlds is not what i want to experience I also do NOT want to experience ego-death yet I'm not religious in the christian sense, nor in the buddhist sense, nor in any other sense, i believe in energy, of which everyting and everybody consists, however i do tolerate other beliefs
I'd have said exactly the same thing until I took LSD. Then again, it also showed me that spirituality is just connection with various energies, so you're not wrong at all.
I'd recommend mushrooms for your first trip, honestly. While I personally much prefer LSD and find it teaches me far more and is more profound and mystical, I think a shorter trip for your first time is more in order. A low dose of mushrooms is the perfect introduction to psychedelics.
-------------------- Disclaimer: If you have any kind of heart condition, my posts are not for you. You could literally die from reading the first couple of words in any one of them. Scroll down the page, live your life and prosper, but don't read my posts because your heart will probably explode. I am not joking.
|
redgreenvines
irregular verb


Registered: 04/08/04
Posts: 37,532
|
Re: introduction psychedelic [Re: blahhaha]
#7607539 - 11/07/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
low to moderate dose of either - increment scientifically
my preference is lsd, except when offered mushrooms - they are that simmilar.
lsd is easier to carry and store and easier on the stomache. buy both.
store both in the dark in a dry place. if you know anything about VCO VCF VCA LFO phase delay, phlangers, sequencers reverb, resonant filters...etc. (electronic music synthesis devices) you will find those easy and fun to trip about or imagine. watching your own mental process is the best. drawing is a delicious task, but it gets difficult at peak.
--------------------
_ 🧠_
|
Sophistic Radiance
Free sVs!



Registered: 07/11/06
Posts: 43,135
Loc: Center of the Universe
|
|
I see and feel spirits on mushrooms... on acid, there's only a singularity, the personality of the universe.
I would say LSD fits your needs perfectly, but do remember that everybody reacts differently to these drugs. While most of my friends agree with me that LSD is usually more "fun" and less "spiritual" than mushrooms, there are exceptions, both in individual people and individual trips. You might go with shrooms first, as they don't last as long and dosage is easier to understand. Ultimately it's up to you to weigh out the pros and cons.
-------------------- Enlil said: You really are the worst kind of person.
|
Cyrone
That guy



Registered: 02/14/07
Posts: 387
Last seen: 1 year, 4 months
|
|
All of your criteria SCREAMS acid. Not to mention, acid is considered the standard by which all other psychadelics are compared to. How's that for conviction? I myself took acid before shrooms, and it was a great introduction because I could control myself well.
|
Land_Crab
NeuroticPsychonaut


Registered: 08/29/04
Posts: 2,194
Loc: U.S.
|
Re: introduction psychedelic [Re: blahhaha]
#7607966 - 11/07/07 05:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
I think if you got a thousand responses to these inquiries you still would find no overwhelming consensus as to whether or not mushrooms or LSD would be "better" for your first time(s). In the end they are both psychedelic hallucinogens which can produce equally profound effects--albeit in slightly different ways.
Personally I would recommend putting a toe in the water first by trying a relatively small dose of mushrooms--which is not to imply that a small dose of LSD is undesirable. What you do not want to do is underestimate the potential intensity of these experiences, which is partly why it's better to start low for your first time. Another reason is that bonafide ego loss or ego death are almost exclusively associated with high doses. The primary effects of mushrooms last roughly 4-7 hours, while the primary effects of LSD last roughly 6-11 hours--according to Erowid. And if you want to be more scientific about things, it is much easier to titrate (measure, regulate) the dosage of mushrooms compared to the dosage of LSD because you can weigh mushrooms on a simple scale to determine your exact dose in grams (of psilocybe cubensis) -- but with LSD it's impossible to know how much you're actually ingesting unless the chemist and/or the middleman is/are known to you personally because LSD doses are measured in micrograms (thousandths of a gram) vs. grams with mushrooms.
Other general recommendations which you've probably heard before are to be in a comfortable setting (with no obligations such as interacting with sober people) and in a stable mindset. People can and do have life-altering experiences on psychedelic hallucinogens, but the effects are so variable that building up too many expectations is not in your best interest.
I also find psychology and the brain fascinating--both of which I've studied academically. Feel free to express any questions or comments on those topics and I'll try my best to respond. And P.S. -- keep us posted!
|
apfrommsp
Just a box ofrain


Registered: 07/17/06
Posts: 1,171
Last seen: 16 years, 1 month
|
Re: introduction psychedelic [Re: Land_Crab]
#7608500 - 11/07/07 07:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
I did mushrooms first starting with a low dose of about 1 gram, then moving to an eighth on my 2nd trip....which was nuts but it changed me for the better. I had been doing shrooms for about a year before I came across acid. Acid has impacted my life greatly and is an amazing drug but I think mushrooms are a better psychedelic for your first time just because of a shorter duration, I dont know how I would have handled 9-12 hours of tripping my first time.
-------------------- "It's a joke. Greed and the desire to take drugs are two separate things. If you want to separate the two, the thing you do is make drugs legal. Accept the reality that people do want to change their consciousness, and make an effort to make safer, healthier drugs."
|
blacksun



Registered: 09/02/06
Posts: 1,390
Loc: United Kingdom
Last seen: 10 years, 6 months
|
Re: introduction psychedelic [Re: apfrommsp]
#7610970 - 11/08/07 12:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
well, a low dose of mushrooms, or a medium dose of acid.
Id probably go for the acid.
-------------------- uarewotueat - "Libs are messy as hell, I don't know whether to take a shit or get a haircut when I'm on them!"
|
|