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Re: Tough truths [Re: Lion]
    #7606093 - 11/07/07 09:39 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The "rabbit hole" of there being no meaning or purpose to life might be deeper than you think.  :wink:


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Re: Tough truths [Re: Veritas]
    #7606120 - 11/07/07 09:45 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I felt a distinct uneasiness when I read those words, so I would have to agree; yes, I intuit that it is deeper than I think. Where has the rabbit hole led you?


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: Tough truths [Re: Lion]
    #7606138 - 11/07/07 09:51 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm still falling.  :lol:


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Re: Tough truths [Re: Lion]
    #7607481 - 11/07/07 03:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

and more desire to find a simple way of living and loving.


This is your belief system. There is no evidence that there is a simple way of living or loving. That IME is wishful dreaming. And down the rabbit hole you go.

Veritas is so right on this one. It may take some years to find out what she is talking about but if you do, to quote Don Juan, "it will deliver a blow that no one can parry".


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


Edited by Icelander (11/07/07 03:45 PM)


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Re: Tough truths [Re: Lion]
    #7607620 - 11/07/07 04:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

you already know everything important
but
you probably also know too much other junk to make sense of it


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Re: Tough truths [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7607643 - 11/07/07 04:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, the philosophical junk drawer can be tough to sift through.  So many rubber bands, dried-out markers, bottle openers, match books, old batteries, miscellaneous parts for mystery appliances and other mental detritus, can make discerning the tools a real challenge.

Nothing like a great psychedelic trip and/or a week-long retreat to clear out the clutter, though!  :smile:


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Re: Tough truths [Re: Lion]
    #7607645 - 11/07/07 04:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Mankind is more gregarious than social. That means we have a herding instinct. that could explain a lot.


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Re: Tough truths [Re: Booby]
    #7607654 - 11/07/07 04:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Gregarious
Seeking and enjoying the company of others; sociable. See Synonyms at social.




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Re: Tough truths [Re: Veritas]
    #7607677 - 11/07/07 04:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yea but we have the social hierarchy of the herd as instinct. Don't you believe it?


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Re: Tough truths [Re: Lion]
    #7607861 - 11/07/07 05:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Too many self rightous juvenile delinquents bitch on the internet constantly.


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Re: Tough truths [Re: Booby]
    #7607882 - 11/07/07 05:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Booby said:
Mankind is more gregarious than social. That means we have a herding instinct. that could explain a lot.




From the presupposition that the herd instinct influences our predisposition we can draw conclusions as to the outcome of various situations.


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Re: Tough truths [Re: Booby]
    #7607912 - 11/07/07 05:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Booby said:
Yea but we have the social hierarchy of the herd as instinct. Don't you believe it?




What does this even mean? Do you mean to say that we are naturally inclined to social behaviour?


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Re: Tough truths [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7607934 - 11/07/07 05:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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NiamhNyx said:
Quote:

Booby said:
Yea but we have the social hierarchy of the herd as instinct. Don't you believe it?




What does this even mean? Do you mean to say that we are naturally inclined to social behaviour?




yeah, dammit! people wanna fuck me.


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Re: Tough truths [Re: Booby]
    #7607982 - 11/07/07 05:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I would be most relieved if everyone would deny it.


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Re: Tough truths [Re: Booby]
    #7608078 - 11/07/07 05:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Booby said:


From the presupposition that the herd instinct influences our predisposition we can draw conclusions as to the outcome of various situations.




...And so we can blame instinct on what we may consider inappropriate behavior. Am I right?


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Re: Tough truths [Re: Booby]
    #7608118 - 11/07/07 05:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Although you aren't making any sense, it seems like what you are trying to say is that the human inclination towards being socially oriented is a problem. I don't see how this has anything to do with what was being discussed previously. Or how there is anything inherently problematic with people forming social bonds.


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Re: Tough truths [Re: Booby]
    #7608121 - 11/07/07 05:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The tough truth here is that we let our animal instincts get the better of us.


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Re: Tough truths [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7608130 - 11/07/07 06:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yeah well, I'm just talking to the clouds.


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Re: Tough truths [Re: Booby]
    #7608188 - 11/07/07 06:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Oh I see. I kinda like my animal instincts. They keep me alert, tell me when to fight or run, let me know when someone sexy is in my vicinity, and tell me when to eat, drink and defecate. Important functions in the game of life. Of course I'm fond of my rational faculties as well, they help me organize the above listed in ways specific to my intended purposes.


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Re: Tough truths [Re: Lion]
    #7608248 - 11/07/07 06:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Each living thing knows only one thing for certain: that it exists.


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