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 reite
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 Choosing a pressure cooker 
#760114 - 07/19/02 07:41 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hi,
When considering purchasing a pressure cooker I have come up with several variables and would like some opinions from those who have experience or know someone who does in working with them. My categories follow, but if you think of something that I missed please include it.
Brand - do some brands work better, have less problems than others?
Cost - big difference here
Type of seal - gasket vs. solid aluminum is one better than another? Is the solid aluminum worth the extra cost for not having to worry about gaskets?
Size - tiny 6 quart up to ~40 quart, does size matter  If you have a small one, do you wish you had a bigger one, is some size too big, what size do you like, what size do you need if you wish to put quart jars in it, should you get the biggest you can afford?
Thank you for your help,
Sincerely,
reite
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: reite]
#760149 - 07/19/02 07:52 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Okay, good post...
The best quality PC is an All American. They're very well constructed and one of the few with a pressure guage.
As far as I know, all PC's have some type of gasket, so that's not an issue.
Definately BIGGER IS BETTER!!
I have a 6 quart Presto and every time I use it I WISH it were at least 3 times the size. 
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 Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: reite]
#760192 - 07/19/02 08:03 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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RE: "Cost - big difference here"....
To put it bruntly: If you consider yourself poor- Dont buy the All American brand- out off all of the models that I have seen the new ones are like over $100 (USA). PC's that have a fixed pressure of 12 psi have been reported to work as well as ones that go 15 psi. (15 psi is often reported as beeing needed due to the PF Tek) - Many here report that very inexpensive fixed 12 psi gauge type PCs (less than $30) from Wallmart (c) can work fine for small personal experiments.
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: TM]
#760194 - 07/19/02 08:03 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have a 20.8L/22quart Mirro (same company as All American, but Mirro's are the budget brand). Does the job for me and has automagic 5/10/15lb pressure settings.
Cost me about US$100 brand new.
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: TM]
#760210 - 07/19/02 08:08 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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>all PC's have some type of gasket
The All American doesn?t have a gasket really, both the pot and the lid fit so tight, that they form a seal.
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: Anno]
#760218 - 07/19/02 08:11 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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i had a feeling that might be the case after looking at pictures of 'em, but I heard someone say the used vaseline instead of vegetable oil on the gasket of one so I was unsure.
I stand corrected!
Thanks Anno! 
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: reite]
#760223 - 07/19/02 08:13 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Never use vegetable oil on your gasket, it will destroy it!
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 Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: reite]
#760226 - 07/19/02 08:14 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have one of the bigger ones from All American paid a little over $ 130 for it after financing ( came from Fingerhut catalog ). I only bought it to help establish my credit and it sat on my shelf for ten years or so. When I started groing shroomies about 3 months ago I took it down of the shelf and dusted it off and shouted "Hallelujia!". The lord works in mysterious ways. I like it fine. I can stack two rows of quart jars in it. No auto settings, but that is ok and no gasket either. You do have to coat it with vaseline where the top and bottom come together, but that's no big deal.
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: Anno]
#760248 - 07/19/02 08:21 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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>Never use vegetable oil on your gasket, it will destroy it!
Okay, now I have to correct you
Vegetable oil does not hurt rubber. Petroleum products do.
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: TM]
#760255 - 07/19/02 08:23 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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>Vegetable oil does not hurt rubber. Petroleum products do.
Oh, it does, it, does.
You are confusing rubber for latex(condoms)....
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: Anno]
#760271 - 07/19/02 08:28 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anno is right. I use petroleum jelly on rubber O-rings for chemistry equipment without issue
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: Anno]
#760297 - 07/19/02 08:40 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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So you're saying vegetable oil won't harm latex, but will harm the tires on your car?
You're saying vaseline will destroy a condom but not the tires on your car?
I might be willing to take your word for the fact that vegetable oil harms rubber the same way vaseline does - if that's what you mean.
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: TM]
#760310 - 07/19/02 08:44 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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>So you're saying vegetable oil won't harm latex, but will harm the tires on your car?
I don?t know about latex, but it will harm the tires, yes.
>You're saying vaseline will destroy a condom but not the tires on your car?
Yes.
A quote and a link on this subject:
"While most manufacturers recommend using mineral oil, or vegetable oil to lubricate gaskets, Vaseline might be a better choice. Especially after exposure to heat, vegetable oils will start to "dry" and turn into a varnish. First they get sticky, then eventually they harden like shellac. This could cause the gasket to stick to the lid and the rim and tear when it is separated, or crack later in storage." I concur with this assessment.
Testing shows vegetable oil does indeed bond the rubber seal to the canner lid so you might consider lubricating with petroleum jelly (aka Vaseline). Vaseline will not impart any flavor or odor to foods and is safe to use, after all we use it on babies, so this might help extend the life of your gaskets."
From http://missvickie.com/library/care-gasket.html .
I tried the thing with the gasket myself(before I knew it?s not good....)
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: Anno]
#760322 - 07/19/02 08:49 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Okiay, I'll shut up now.
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: PsilosKube]
#761293 - 07/20/02 06:40 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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That one looks nice. 
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: TM]
#761322 - 07/20/02 06:49 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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I got a 8 quart mirro pc from walmart for only 40 bucks. Its not the baddest kind of pc but it works just fine. It can hold 4 quart jars, 5 pint jars, 10 half pint jars. Its really easy to use too.
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: Killa420]
#761552 - 07/20/02 08:19 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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that 8 quart souns like a good way to avoid having one of those big 22 quart ones this was my consideration when i was getting mine the cost was half for the smaller one but i ended up getting a six quart from walmart brand 'presto'
mine works great but i can't fit a whole quart jar into it and i can only fit three pint jars which is ok but that 8 qt sounds like a happy medium but if you got room and money your saved effort will be well worth getting the 22 qt or something big.
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: reite]
#761724 - 07/20/02 09:14 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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All American pressure cookers are the way to go.
I like the older ones.....they have a guage and a pressure relief valve.
The newer ones have one of those rocker weights.... I can't stand them.
I suggest buying one on Ebay....if you want a good deal on one.
If you can deal with a cheapy..... check some local thrift stores if you have any.
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: PsilosKube]
#761969 - 07/20/02 10:42 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just now bought that same presto pessure cooker at Walmart for $71 #01780 22qt. Yes!! ME SO HAPPY . I checked Walmart last week and they didn't have any so they must have just came in. We're getting into canning season now so check it out. They also have smaller ones too.
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: reite]
#762306 - 07/20/02 01:04 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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I had big mushroom dreams, so i picked up this huge 20pint P.Cooker for 230$US, its a tank!! Later on I found that I really didnt need one that big, maybe only half the size. Buut it does give me a pice of mind that I have the room if iI ever do want to expand with Higher volume mushroom growing
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: Jammer]
#762374 - 07/20/02 01:52 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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hears my pick
http://amos.catalogcity.com/cc.class/cc?main=catalog&pcd=3420765&prd=5099764&ccsyn=1
its electric so i can do the steralizing in the comfort of my own room and it doubles as a stock pot perfect for the alien substrated tek.....
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: reite]
#762506 - 07/20/02 02:48 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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The best value for your dollar is the all american 921 (21.5 Qt, holds 19 pints or 7 quart jars..)
one of the best prices I have seen:
http://www.appliances.com/apo94921.html
also several of the equipment vendors here sell them.
They are recognized as the best for this application.. even paul staments's www.fungi.com sells them, although for an exorbitant price.
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: midas]
#762575 - 07/20/02 03:19 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Walmart also has a presto17 Qt. cooker for like $50 something bucks. I can't remember exactly. That you can do quart jars in and more pints. I wanted to be able to do two cases of 1/2 pint jars at a time at least 10 pint jars and be able to do quart jars too that's why i got the 22qt. Who the hell wants to hang out all night
sterilizing jars? Now i can do them all at once. Trust me when you start getting into this your gonna be trading prints and wanting to grow out everything you can get your hands on and a nice big cooker is gonna save you ALOT of work. I've done without for over a year. My wife and kids take all my money so when i saw that cooker today i said fuck it and bought it!! An all American would have been real nice but the cash doesn't stick around that long for me to have to order one online.
Something always comes up. At least get a 17 qt. that way you do a bit more jars and be able to do qts. too. They have the pressure guage too which is nice
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: PsilosKube]
#763163 - 07/20/02 07:18 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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For those who can make the investment, 921, 925 or 941 AA is worth every penny & will last you & yours 100 years if taken good care of. Time in this life is limited. If you want to spend it doing 3 or 5 jars at a time, hour after hour, day after day, use a little PC with a sealing gasket that wears out & rocker arm weights that cause your place to be permeated with the smell of rye or bird seed steaming off, go for it. If you want to do big batches of jars at once, AA is the way to go. The bigger, the better. Nuff said. SixTango
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 Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: DinoMyc]
#763516 - 07/20/02 09:52 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks Dino!
Those are really nice looking and the price is good.
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Re: Choosing a pressure cooker [Re: reite]
#763698 - 07/21/02 01:17 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wish you the greatest luck in your pressure cooker search. We offer both types of pressure cookers (one with a a rubber seal, and one with a metal to metal seal).
Most importantly, they all come with a warrenty.
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