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Is it really over?
    #7600982 - 11/05/07 11:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I have smoked almost daily for about a year and a half now. It used to be so fun back in the early days.
Weed was a psychedelic to me back then. But as I got more connects, etc, I got easier access to large amounts of weed.
It turned into, I couldn't sleep without it. I have had problems with insomnia for a long time.
Weed has always KNOCKED ME OUT though. In fact, it ALWAYS knocks me out. So I can't smoke during the morning or day or I feel like shit 4 hours after I smoke. I get to tired and amotivational. I really don't like the feeling. I don't get any of the crazy visual enhancements and crazy OEV's, like I used to. .5 G of weed used to do to me what 1 gram of mushys does to me now. I feel great and think up sweet shit while high still, but I just hate how tired it makes me all the time.
So my question is:
Is weed just a phase for a lot of people? I will never quit forever, but I think I may take an unspecified time break.


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: Xeluc]
    #7601042 - 11/05/07 11:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm sorry that you feel this way about the sweet ol' ganj. It'll never cease to amaze me day in and day out. So far I'm more or less a chronic smoker (every day for 4 years) and I have noticed absolutely no diminished effects in the high. I get as high now as I ever did back when I first started, if not more high than when I first started. Maybe you need to change the type of bud that you're smoking... who knows?

But, if you really feel this way about marijuana then I don't understand why you'd smoke. If it doesn't seem worth it and you're not enjoying it, maybe it is time for a break. It's really up to you. You know better than we whether you want to keep smoking or not.


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: Xeluc]
    #7601063 - 11/05/07 11:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, I may be like that. (just smoked a bedtime bowl) But like morphman said, maybe change the weed, or the setting.

Its up to you if you need a break or not.


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: MorphMan]
    #7601064 - 11/05/07 11:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

it's called tolerance, i would think it would be rare for someone not to build up a tolerance to it.
man i wish i had of got visuals from weed, i've never heard of anyone else that is not from the shroomery to get visuals off of weed.
after smokingmore than one person should smoke in a lifetime, in about 5 years or more, i decided it was taking control of me, and it was shit, so i stopped. i havn't smoked now for over three years.


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: Xeluc]
    #7601073 - 11/05/07 11:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Take a break for a week or two. Or longer if you feel like it.
I've been smoking bud for 12 years pretty much everyday.. but I have to take breaks every once in a while or you just build up a huge tolerance and start to get burnt out. Everything in moderation.
Also, I've found that smoking during the morning, or when you have important shit to do is generally not the best idea. I save it for after work or whenever I'm just kicking back. Occassionally I'll sneak a toke during lunch, but never enough to get blazed.. just a mild buzz.


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: Artnotwar]
    #7601077 - 11/05/07 11:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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intense_cutn said:i havn't smoked now for over three years.




When I read this statement I became very emotional. To be honest, I felt actual physical pain when I read it. We lost another one!


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: MorphMan]
    #7601169 - 11/06/07 12:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

This is what happens when you smoke more than once a week.
Only you yourself is to blame.

People naturally stop doing weed, but continue to drink alcohol because weed is a pain in the ass to set up in comparison (packing bowl, finding a good spot, finding dealers, dealing with price fluctuations) so yea once people are able to drink legally I've noticed a decrease in smoking up.

For me, however, weed will always be a psychadelic. Haven't smoked since over the summer, and am planning to do it Thanksgivin Break :thumbup:


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: Cyrone]
    #7601220 - 11/06/07 01:06 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It is just a phase for most people.  For some people longer than others.  For some its 2 weeks, for me it was about 5 years :wink:.

Having a job helped me to stay busy during the day and I didn't really think about smoking, and I started just smoking some heady bud at night.

Much more affordable, a much better high to begin with, and you're going to get more effect per thc or whatever because your tolerance is lower.  Give it a try.


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: etam]
    #7601663 - 11/06/07 08:41 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah just take breaks. Its amazing what a three week break can do to your tolerance. I just got off a break and smoked some good shit with my friends up on a mountain. I coughed like a bitch but it was one of the most fun times I've ever had smoking in my life.


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: g00ru]
    #7602117 - 11/06/07 11:10 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yeah I'll be taking a break. I don't smoke much of the good stuff, I'm sure that has to do with it. But mostly, I LOVE getting high still, I just can't do it before 10PM or I can't/don't want to do anything for the rest of the day.
I guess yesterday was just the last straw. The other day I smoked at 10AM and by 4 I was OK for work. Yesterday I smoked at 10AM and 130PM and I was DEAD at work. Like my eyes weren't bloodshot because I used drops, but I looked like shit, everyone kept asking if I was OK because I looked like my dog just died, I looked real bent out of shape, and I can't go through work like that. It's like I'm an empty shell and I just can't think. But I'm not high either.
Basically, I think I've burnt out. I think weekend smoking will give me something to look forward to and keep it a little newer than how things have been.


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: Xeluc]
    #7602200 - 11/06/07 11:26 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I just dont understand a lot of these comments. I, personally, dont think that smoking weed is a phase. The vast majority of people around me (dad, uncle's, cousins, older friends, people at work) all still smoke weed. Ive smoked weed for about the last 5-6 years, and pretty much everyday for the past 2-3. Ive experienced no lowered effects in the high. I also love to wake and bake, and get ripped before, sometimes during and after work.

Youre the only one who knows whether you should take a break or not. But I also think that smoking better weed will help greatly. I couldnt imagine smoking anything less than really good mids everyday.


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: xaeviax]
    #7602783 - 11/06/07 01:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

for some people, it is a phase. So it beer drinking.

For example, for me, alcohol was a phase, weed was not.


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: kotik]
    #7602865 - 11/06/07 02:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well, obviously it's not going to be a phase for *everyone*, it just depends on one's situation. If high quality weed is hard to get or if you have a busy life, you'll naturally stop smoking weed, and it's nothing to feel bad about.

I have no respect for burnouts, if you are so dumb as to not recognize that if you smoke weed EVERY DAY that you'll burn out, then you deserve it. In any case, waiting it out a month will make smoking weed fun again; BUT you have to space it out after that too. Just taking a month break isn't going to do anything in the long run. You have to make a committment to smoke only on the weekends from then on, for example. And you'll save a ton of money. Really it's a win-win situation - if you can't fall to sleep at night, listen to some Sigur Ros in bed, it'll knock you out immediately.


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: Xeluc]
    #7602937 - 11/06/07 02:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Xeluc said:
yeah I'll be taking a break. I don't smoke much of the good stuff, I'm sure that has to do with it. But mostly, I LOVE getting high still, I just can't do it before 10PM or I can't/don't want to do anything for the rest of the day.





All-day smoking was a phase for me, but only because I put my foot down and stopped it. It lasted six years and could've kept going forever if I didn't take action. Wait until 10PM and watch your productivity skyrocket.


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: Cyrone]
    #7603215 - 11/06/07 03:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I have no respect for burnouts, if you are so dumb as to not recognize that if you smoke weed EVERY DAY that you'll burn out, then you deserve it.




quite an odd view... I don't respect people that don't respect people. Not sure why you would lose respect for someone and call them "dumb" because they smoke every day.

Some people drink coffee everyday, some smoke cigarettes, auto-erotic asphyxiation, etc. under your logic, all of these people are dumb too, and will eventually "burn out," right?

I'll go ahead and quote one of my favorite people.. I think Ron Paul is the one that said: "I'd rather burn out than fade away."


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: kotik]
    #7603313 - 11/06/07 03:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You need a tolerance break, it's totally necessary for any serious pothead haha.


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7603573 - 11/06/07 04:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I took a 2 week tolerance break, and WHAT a difference it made. for 3 days, lol. 2-3 Times a day will build up my tolerance VERY quickly. Now, I'm not going to focus on a break, so much as just not using it as much. I could make 4 grams last a month if I only smoke on weekends.
As far as productivity is concerned, this tolerance break I took last month (for the same reason I created this thread) made me realize that I actually HAD started that burnout process. I procrastinated EVERYTHING, It was just stupid stuff, but after I quit for a few weeks, I started noticing that I WANTED to complete tasks again so that I had something to show for myself. I'm 19 and started smoking when I was 18 (I seriously am greatful I didn't find weed in school, it would have made it hard on me and I'm mature enough to realize it)
Anyway, In the span of 2 weeks I got work done that needed done for months. It really was a wake up call for me. Now, I wont say I'm sinking in the same boat again, but on a short term basis, I just don't do what I need to do when I get high during the day, so I am putting a stop to it.
But damn... I really want to finish off that last bit I have. I know I'll cry tomorrow if I do though, haha..


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7603657 - 11/06/07 05:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

take a break. in a week or so, smoke and you'll find all over again why you like to smoke. Smoking every day is worth it, in my opinion, and its a waste. space out your smoke and you'll get higher and enjoy it more. Smoking to the point where sober life is apathetic is not fun. Respect the ganja and it shall respect you or some shit like that.


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: Limerick]
    #7603844 - 11/06/07 05:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yeah i would reccommend smoking every weekend or less. just taking a month break as a full time smoker will not really work well as far as tolerance goes. yeah it might get you really smashed for the first couple of days you start smoking again, but it doesn't take long for it to feel like it's not really hitting you.


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: Artnotwar]
    #7603907 - 11/06/07 06:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

marley is rolling over in his grave right now because of this thread.


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: kotik]
    #7604356 - 11/06/07 08:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I smoke an average of 3-5 times a day I too feel lazy if I smoke an indica that's why those are reserved for when you go to sleep. If you smoke a sativa your day will be a lot better I have been smoking every day for 7 years. I have never had any of these problems that people are talking about. does your tolerance build sure but as it does with any thing from exercise to coffee to mushies. If you feel you are no longer getting the joy or high you are looking for take a break or switch buds to a more sat dom plant a haze is a great smoke for not feeling tired. sorry about the rant


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: originalogrower]
    #7604484 - 11/06/07 08:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I just save my smoking for whenever all my major tasks are done and I can just lie down and rest for a little. Really makes you look forward to getting home. :jointsmile:

I also do it everyday and I don't notice any burnout effects or anything, most people are shocked to find out that I smoke regularly.


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: Artnotwar]
    #7605283 - 11/06/07 11:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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yeah i would reccommend smoking every weekend or less. just taking a month break as a full time smoker will not really work well as far as tolerance goes. yeah it might get you really smashed for the first couple of days you start smoking again, but it doesn't take long for it to feel like it's not really hitting you.




That's what I do! If you can make the transition from smoking every day to only smoking on weekends, you will be very pleased. I combine it with some alcohol drinking and I get super crunk, every time now. It's much more fun, and you won't mind being sober during the week because you have something to look forward to on friday/saturday, plus being sober will make it easier for you to get things you need done.


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: kotik]
    #7605586 - 11/07/07 03:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Everyone's different, i'm sure some of the daily users here keep motivated. I would love to smoke everyday, having only a bowl or 2 a night after a productive day. But that was the problem, i wouldn't just do it at the end of the day, I'd do it throughout and i would find myself getting lazy. If i had a 9-5 job it may of been easier but being a uni student i would smoke whenever i could and not get much work done.
Now i use a fair bit of acid so smoking too many cones just became too intense on top of that. I'm having a break from both and will be careful to monitor my use in the future..From my experiences, it seems regular consciousness is the mind state we are meant to spend the most time in!


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: kotik]
    #7607729 - 11/07/07 04:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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quite an odd view... I don't respect people that don't respect people. Not sure why you would lose respect for someone and call them "dumb" because they smoke every day.

Some people drink coffee everyday, some smoke cigarettes, auto-erotic asphyxiation, etc. under your logic, all of these people are dumb too, and will eventually "burn out," right?





No, I am not calling them dumb for smoking every day.
I'm calling them dumb for getting frustrated/confused when the burn out as a RESULT of smoking every day.

And yes, if a person does something every day for years, eventually that "thing" will start doing less and less for them. It's the principle of diminishing utility. If I hand you 100 Oreos, the 100th oreo will be significantly less pleasurable than the 1st one you ate.


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: Cyrone]
    #7607763 - 11/07/07 04:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I've been burning herb almost every single day for years and I always feel like a stupid burnout. But seriously if I replace my morning bowl with a coffee I'm completely fine. The people I know who are dumb potheads are dumb because they spend all their high moments avoiding mental work. Like they won't want to read or learn or anything. And since they are high all the time they never get around to do anything new. This site has always kept me thinking even during high times.


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: Cyrone]
    #7607972 - 11/07/07 05:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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if a person does something every day for years, eventually that "thing" will start doing less and less for them. It's the principle of diminishing utility.




ahem, I beg to differ.  Salvia has reverse tolerance  :wink:


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Re: Is it really over? [Re: kotik]
    #7607979 - 11/07/07 05:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Don't think of it as taking a break, think of it as only smoking when you really want to. If that isn't enough, then you probably aren't ready for a break.


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