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johnnyfacker
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tossing cakes outside?
#7599729 - 11/05/07 06:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have 5 cakes ( brf jars )that contamed pretty bad with a green mold, I've read posts where people say put it outside and it may come back next season etc. -Does this method still apply when you have cold winters? -If I did this now (drops below freezing at night) could it come back in the spring/fall? -Also I read some people say it's okay to eat contamed shrooms, should I reconsider tossing them?
Thanks for responses.
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BUDDHA_702
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Make an outside patch, The MYC can fight the contams off when there outside.
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RogerRabbit
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They won't come back next spring, so just toss them to get rid of em. Nobody is going to recommend eating 'contamed' shrooms, whatever that means. Molds on a substrate don't render the fruits from that substrate inedible, provided the fruits are healthy. RR
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ThePyschonaut52
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Re: tossing cakes outside? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7599859 - 11/05/07 07:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I burn anything that contaminates. I soak it in gas, chuck it in my fire pit out back and drop in a match.
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johnnyfacker
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Re: tossing cakes outside? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7599866 - 11/05/07 07:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks RR, just hoping there was some hope!! One more question: Do the freezing temps kill the myc?
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mikeytro
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a little excessive? 
I throw mine in an old plastic shopping bag, tie it, and throw it in the garbage
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ThePyschonaut52
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Re: tossing cakes outside? [Re: mikeytro]
#7599877 - 11/05/07 07:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I mainly do it cause I'm a pyromaniac
And yes, freezing temps will kill mycelium.
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johnnyfacker
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Smashing the jars into a large fire would be soothing seeing as I have to start over now! F*ck. thx all.
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ThePyschonaut52
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dont smash the jars! lol. just burn the cakes
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Quote:
johnnyfacker said: Do the freezing temps kill the myc?
Yes, they are a tropic/subtropic species that is not frost tolerant. They'll go dormant at low temperatures but the minute they freeze, they're done for. I throw used substrates and contamination into my compost piles when the time comes and I _have_ seen fruits poking through every once in a blue moon after freezes but that's only because the center of an active compost pile is between 140-160(F) degrees and it probably kept the mycelium warm enough in the pile to prevent the frost from killing it off.
Which is not what I had intended when I sent them off to be recycled...
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Re: tossing cakes outside? [Re: mycocurious]
#7601718 - 11/06/07 09:08 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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if you realy want them to come back next year, collect up a butload of spores and sprinkel em all over your patch... or inject them into your patch..
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Re: tossing cakes outside? [Re: Slimz]
#7601785 - 11/06/07 09:30 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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you could always make some "green" tea
haha naw just playing.
sorry for your lost, but just toss
(yes i rhymed for you to remember better)
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johnnyfacker
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Re: tossing cakes outside? [Re: QDP843]
#7601803 - 11/06/07 09:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thx, nice rhyme (maybe tupac is still alive????)
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Only thing I've ever composted was LEGAL organic material, thank you very much. It's a COMPOST pile, not an EVIDENCE pile.
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mycocurious
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MotorCityMadman said: Only thing I've ever composted was LEGAL organic material, thank you very much. It's a COMPOST pile, not an EVIDENCE pile.
even though it was a little bit of a jump to get to that conclusion regarding which species to which I was referring, I definitely don't disagree.
I however was referring to an incident regarding Pleurotus tuberregium (The King Tuber Oyster) while testing it's ability to colonize a redwood-chip & coco-coir substrate. Didn't do too well after about three months and instead of wisely extracting the sclerotia I just threw the whole damn thing into my compost piles only to find, about a month later, the entire right side of my pile fruiting.
I was worried that I'd never kill (pasteurize through the composting process) all of the sclerotia in the pile and it would end up all over my property when I went to distribute the compost into my gardens.
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