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how does my casing look
    #7599389 - 11/05/07 05:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

seems to be going well...should i patch? or just let it go? i dont see harm in letting it go, the myc isnt that thick...




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Re: how does my casing look [Re: sproket13]
    #7599400 - 11/05/07 05:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: how does my casing look [Re: sproket13]
    #7599402 - 11/05/07 05:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm no expert but it looks like cobweb
most likely isn't, just kinda looks very thin and web like
patching = even pinset but also more waiting
sometimes I patch some times I dont


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Re: how does my casing look [Re: mikeytro]
    #7599406 - 11/05/07 05:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

btw - if it is cobweb, its pretty extensive but you could always try spraying with h202, cant hurt
dont do it until a more experienced grower gives input though


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Re: how does my casing look [Re: sproket13]
    #7599408 - 11/05/07 05:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Okay, this is all hearsay from me cause I haven't even gotten my cakes going yet but I think the reason you patch is to get an even pin set. When you patch is up for debate but normally after mycellium appear and before the pins start growing. Personally I would patch but I obsess over little details. Looks fine to just let it grow like it is. Good job.

Edit: Like I said I have no clue what I'm talking about so I can't weigh in on the contam issue. I can feel stupid though :laugh:.


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Re: how does my casing look [Re: BlargIAmDead]
    #7599413 - 11/05/07 05:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

its pretty thick. i didnt even suspect cobweb. but ill keep a close eye on it. lookin at that pic the middle almost looks green? *shutters*


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Re: how does my casing look [Re: sproket13]
    #7599462 - 11/05/07 05:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yikes how did it go so long without you noticing?


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Re: how does my casing look [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7599513 - 11/05/07 06:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

....i dont think its cobweb...thats how. lol


is it?  should i give it a H202 spraying?


i also dont have any holes in my totes.  they just have a lid, thats not air tight. i figured that was good enough for FAE...is this why i ran into a problem?


and yes, i made a couple that had holes drilled in it stuffed with polyfil. AFTER i made these  :smile:


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Re: how does my casing look [Re: sproket13]
    #7599587 - 11/05/07 06:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The middle of the patch doesn't look very...umm...healthy. No fear though, the rest of is NOT cobweb.


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Re: how does my casing look [Re: sproket13]
    #7599631 - 11/05/07 06:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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sproket13 said:
i also dont have any holes in my totes. they just have a lid, thats not air tight. i figured that was good enough for FAE...is this why i ran into a problem?




That is, without question, not enough fresh air exchange. If you're not going to use something along the lines of a "shotgun" styled terrarium you need to be able to completely exchange all the air in the fruiting chamber at least once an hour...and even that's pushing it in my humble experience. I completely change out all the air in my fruiting chamber (13 cubic feet, internally ) about every two or three minutes with the blower attached to my humidifier running at about 25 CFM...

Large amounts of fresh air are required to initiate pinning and that's probably why your casings look the way they do. I cant tell offhand if that's cobweb though, how fast did you notice the colonization taking place?


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Keep in mind that inoculating or whatever in front of a flow hood won't help your bad substrate, your bad inoculant, your bad sterile procedure, etc. etc. etc. It's not a +3 flowhood of magic, it's just a tool.


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Re: how does my casing look [Re: Chi Ro]
    #7599634 - 11/05/07 06:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If you use h202 spray on a casing like that make sure it is highly concentrated and dont spray too much as you dont want to flood it out and throw off your water content... i would say your goin to make it... if it doesnt smell like utter shit you should be fine ... usually contaminents smell really distinct!

heres an example of how strong a casing can be... and yes i fruited off this as well as spawned other ( real casings)... considering this is just a ball of tenstud that i spawned from a grain bag..


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Re: how does my casing look [Re: Chi Ro]
    #7599640 - 11/05/07 06:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yah. i took a closer look.

the myc grows from the WBS through the edge of the casing layers. so i can only assume its whats all over. the middle, is a problem. i dug a small piece up, and it appears to be mycelium. just looks...different. im thinkin some condensation dripped. i guess i need to put holes in my casing lids next time..


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Re: how does my casing look [Re: camelsmoker]
    #7599655 - 11/05/07 06:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm still not confident it's a cobweb mold infection so much as it is a case of the mycelium colonizing all of the substrate and moving on to the casing without switching into it's fruiting stage...don't rush off to stress your mycelium with H2O2 if it doesn't need it.

If that isn't 48 hours of growth, it's more than likely he'd be better served by leaving the lid off and fanning the hell out of it every time he walks by it for two or three days.


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figgusfiddus said:
Keep in mind that inoculating or whatever in front of a flow hood won't help your bad substrate, your bad inoculant, your bad sterile procedure, etc. etc. etc. It's not a +3 flowhood of magic, it's just a tool.


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Re: how does my casing look [Re: mycocurious]
    #7599665 - 11/05/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

its in the dark right now, till its 100% colonized. then it goes in my PMP. im pretty confident i could just leave it in dark till 100% then put in FC. i dont see why people patch, if you could just wait longeR? unless its a big difference. im thinkin tomorrow this should be 100%. then i suppose its to the FC?... you dont let it sit like cakes?


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Re: how does my casing look [Re: sproket13]
    #7599712 - 11/05/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

you don't wait until the casing is 100% colonized to fruit, you fruit at the first signs of hypheal knots (or when you see mycelium poking out in several different areas on your casing if you haven't yet learn to recognize the what the knots look like) I've never patched until after I've harvested the first flush...


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figgusfiddus said:
Keep in mind that inoculating or whatever in front of a flow hood won't help your bad substrate, your bad inoculant, your bad sterile procedure, etc. etc. etc. It's not a +3 flowhood of magic, it's just a tool.


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Re: how does my casing look [Re: mycocurious]
    #7599724 - 11/05/07 06:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

looks like my first casing attempts. they got wayyy to thick and never fruited


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Re: how does my casing look [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #7599811 - 11/05/07 07:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

hum. i think i learned from these my casing layer was a tad too thick. but ill stick it out and see what happens...


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Re: how does my casing look [Re: mycocurious]
    #7599968 - 11/05/07 07:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

That looks bacterial bloom to me.... everything looks like bacterial contam to me.... accept for the big festering pile of mold spores sitting almost directly in the center of the sub..

Your casing is nuked. :thumbdown:


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Re: how does my casing look [Re: Pr0_X]
    #7600125 - 11/05/07 08:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It's not cobweb.


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