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What is the correct Cutting procedure that will not damage a patch
    #7599348 - 11/05/07 05:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Does the little chunk of left over stem and chunk of mycelium that is left behind after cutting mess up the patch or does it just dissolve. Do you folk notice pins forming next to or in the same spot during the same season? Now that I have access to a regular patch that no one else will poach I want to make sure that i do everything possible to keep it healthy.

Do you folk use anything special to cut them with. Scissors just don't seem to the best for this. I am thinking there is something with a little more strength near the end of the blade.


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Re: What is the correct Cutting procedure that will not damage a patch [Re: tahoe]
    #7599392 - 11/05/07 05:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i use a box-cutter generally, for portability, motility, and sharpness.

either that or a lightsaber.


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Re: What is the correct Cutting procedure that will not damage a patch [Re: faceofbear]
    #7599436 - 11/05/07 05:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

shit scissors have always worked just fine for me and i cut thick ass cube stems..and i've definitely returned to the same patty many times in a season..how do the scissors give you problems?


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Re: What is the correct Cutting procedure that will not damage a patch [Re: faceofbear]
    #7599439 - 11/05/07 05:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i have never use i lightsaber , would´t recomended it, instead i use the force,but sometimes does not work so i use my hand , never faild me , i dont like to leave peace of roting material even they form small pin , since i begging in mushrroms in cultivation i don´t like to do that of cutting, but i have never hace real experience with true woodlovers only secondary decomposer, but i see if you do it gentle why should the micelium should not recover fast and give a second flush also sometimes scraching and replacin the small hole with new food, help more that leaving the piece to rot.i guees the problen is in public area when follish people do it bad and make many damage to the micelium , but you are the only one that gonna be harvesting that baby´s , so i see no harm in use the stem base to make more spawn , or give to nature to come back to where it was in the first place .......


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Re: What is the correct Cutting procedure that will not damage a patch [Re: ScrewdUpTexas]
    #7599448 - 11/05/07 05:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

the stems seem to be a little lower then the wood chips. Usually the mushroom is rooted even lower then I can reach with the scissors. I just want to make sure I get all of the stem withot damaging the patch and leaving a huge chunk of stem behind that will rot. Will this rotting chuck of stem wreak havoc to the patch?


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Re: What is the correct Cutting procedure that will not damage a patch [Re: tahoe]
    #7599517 - 11/05/07 06:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

ahh..i see. i'm used to just cuttin them bitches right off a cow pattie. i know that pulling em straight out will destroy the mycelium but i dunno bout that rotting piece of stem...i would tend to think it wouldnt hurt a patch at all. i guess i'd risk leaving a little bit of stem behind rather than tear up the mycelium. if you want the whole stem just so you have more shroom...shit yall get so many of them damn cyans i wouldnt be concerned with an inch or so but then again...i've never even seen a wild cyan (goddamn it!)


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Re: What is the correct Cutting procedure that will not damage a patch [Re: ScrewdUpTexas]
    #7599605 - 11/05/07 06:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I don't see how leaving a rotting stem is any different than a full grown mushroom rotting? Are they different in some way?


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Re: What is the correct Cutting procedure that will not damage a patch [Re: cactu]
    #7600438 - 11/05/07 09:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hahaha, yeah Lightsabers can definitley do a hurtin' on yer patch.


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Re: What is the correct Cutting procedure that will not damage a patch [Re: tahoe]
    #7603054 - 11/06/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Does the little chunk of left over stem and chunk of mycelium that is left behind after cutting mess up the patch or does it just dissolve.

If it is a small piece of stem and the temperature is cool and wet enough, the piece grows back into the patch

Do you folk notice pins forming next to or in the same spot during the same season?

Yes.

Do you folk use anything special to cut them with.

No, but I find that a long, shallow bladed stainless steak knife with fine serrations is the best thing to use as it is strong and reaches easily into spaces to cut stems without cutting those that you do not want to cut.


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Re: What is the correct Cutting procedure that will not damage a patch [Re: falcon]
    #7604787 - 11/06/07 09:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)


this is your home. walk into my mushroom bag, little ones.


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Re: What is the correct Cutting procedure that will not damage a patch [Re: faceofbear]
    #7605437 - 11/07/07 12:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

is it my own wishful thinking that when you cut a mushroom at the bottom of its stem that another mushroom will fruit from the same stem?

either way, I've used a razor blade from the hardware store. no box cutter or anything just a 2.5 inch blade cause I had to improvise and it worked wonders. as well as a pocket knife and scissors when I come prepared.


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Re: What is the correct Cutting procedure that will not damage a patch [Re: tahoe]
    #7606054 - 11/07/07 09:25 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Get some Fiskars. They are very versatile.


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Re: What is the correct Cutting procedure that will not damage a patch [Re: thetonebone72]
    #7606354 - 11/07/07 10:50 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

its seriouslt not that hard to just pick em. pinch and twist niggas :smile:



i dont like using scizzors cus i find it makes you too bold and ofen when cutting dwn large groups i will snip a hidden pin hidding underneith.
picking is faster anyway :smile:


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Re: What is the correct Cutting procedure that will not damage a patch [Re: notapillow]
    #7606372 - 11/07/07 10:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I will try a cheap ass paring knife. Small sharp blade


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Re: What is the correct Cutting procedure that will not damage a patch [Re: tahoe]
    #7606493 - 11/07/07 11:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The piece of stem left behind doesn't rot, as falcon pointed out above. In addition, if you cut instead of pulling, you don't get dirt all over the mushrooms in your bag. Don't forget to leave half of any mushrooms you find unpicked. The natural process is for bugs to lay eggs in the gill tissue, which than hatch out, attracting birds and spreading the spores to new sites. It's not just the wind that spreads spores.
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Re: What is the correct Cutting procedure that will not damage a patch [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7620044 - 11/10/07 07:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

an update. Just checked a spot where they were cut and the left over little root ball stem chunk has turned into a bright white chunk of mycelium with rhizos growing from it. I will get a pic tomorrow


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Re: What is the correct Cutting procedure that will not damage a patch [Re: tahoe]
    #7621567 - 11/11/07 10:44 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i touched the mycelium and knocked it down but here is a stem butt that is turing back to mycelium


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Re: What is the correct Cutting procedure that will not damage a patch [Re: tahoe]
    #7623315 - 11/11/07 07:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Great work! 

Any predictions of number of flushes?  :goodluck:


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Re: What is the correct Cutting procedure that will not damage a patch [Re: scout24]
    #7623333 - 11/11/07 07:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

no predictions, my buddy says a p dry i say under 3/4th dry. I just dont know. We just got an inch of rain so maybe that will trigger some more pinning


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Stop experimenting half way through your first grow. Grow it to maturity, watch it, learn from it. Do this a few times then experiment with different ideas and figure out what works best for you.


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