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Just tried Sally
    #7599044 - 11/05/07 03:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I got 28g of regular leaf, and 1g of 5x standardized extract today. Just smoked a bowl of the leaf basically to try it out, 2 pretty big hits, held in awhile. I definately feel "stoned" but its hard to explain, not like pot.

Anyways, I plan on smoking the extract out of a ghetto 2 liter gatorade bottle bong tonight to try and breakthrough and I'll for sure write up what happens. I plan on just filling that sucker up thick as fuck with smoke and then ghosting it if I can. :thumbup:

Any suggestions?


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It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus.
All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the
octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV.
But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns.
Also he got a race car.
Is any of this getting through to you?


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Re: Just tried Sally [Re: Deity208]
    #7599079 - 11/05/07 04:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

What worked for me was taking huge hits, holding it in as much as I can and then repeating the process again quickly as many times as I could. If you do it right, after 2nd or 3rd hit, you'll start to feel it come on, if you have the will to continue, take another hit and this will surely blast you off into salvia space.


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Re: Just tried Sally [Re: Deity208]
    #7599082 - 11/05/07 04:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Pack a fat bowl, torch it and rip the entire bowl. Every last bit. Hold it in as long as you possibly can. Good bye, exhale.

If you do it right, there shouldn't be enough for 2-3 hits. You really have to hit it all in one for it to really hit it's fullest.


Edited by xile (11/05/07 04:04 PM)


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Re: Just tried Sally [Re: Deity208]
    #7599832 - 11/05/07 07:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

just tried the extract.. ummm. WHAT THE FUCK just happened? I was totally unprepared for that shit, i dont know how im typing really, maybe im just a pussy when it comes to salvia but that was totally fucked up. im gonna go lay down. fuckin a.


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It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus.
All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the
octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV.
But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns.
Also he got a race car.
Is any of this getting through to you?


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Re: Just tried Sally [Re: Deity208]
    #7600023 - 11/05/07 07:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

5x is just 5 x regular leaf
now you know
use less 5x, or a bit more plain leaf

what happenned was
you shifted mental state to one of much higher resonance.

each part of your being became like a tuning fork ringing with the energy of each sensation and thought as the moments passed.


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Re: Just tried Sally [Re: Deity208]
    #7600044 - 11/05/07 08:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think it's like that for everyone. My salvia trip was one of the most intensely frightening experiences of my life. I passed out, woke up tripping by face off 2 minutes later (not knowing where the hell I was, or why the world was pink and green, or why my arms were melting into the wall.

Salvia is nasty stuff. (I was only using 25x, about 3-4 huge bong hits)

I guess its worth a try if you can afford it and you're in a safe environment, with a friend or two, but I'm sure that I'd rather just ave mushrooms.


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Re: Just tried Sally [Re: shroom_ninja]
    #7600681 - 11/05/07 10:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I'm back to normal now. I had to get in bed and sleep for a little while. I only had 1 hit of 5x but it was terrifying. I wish I could explain what happened and where I went, but I just cant put it into words.


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It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus.
All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the
octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV.
But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns.
Also he got a race car.
Is any of this getting through to you?


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Re: Just tried Sally [Re: Deity208]
    #7600787 - 11/05/07 10:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

my first experience with it was 10x. chiefed a couple hits. i lost it, lucky i had a sitter. i've mellowed down to the basic leaf. hope you like it!


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Re: Just tried Sally [Re: blackfir]
    #7600878 - 11/05/07 11:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Haha, another "what the fuck was that?!?" salvia thread...


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Re: Just tried Sally [Re: EthericOctopuss]
    #7601125 - 11/06/07 12:13 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

but seriously, what is up with saliva? why is it so intense and why is it legal? this shit is beyond amazing. im too scared to take another trip. everyone says it gets better but i dont think i could handle another trip like the first one. well i could, i just dont want too.


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You look up at me and you see a god
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Re: Just tried Sally [Re: emilbus]
    #7601162 - 11/06/07 12:35 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I know how you feel, I could try it again tomorrow with a sitter... but I'm not sure if I want to. While it was happening I didnt think "Oh I just smoked salvia", I had no clue what was happening.

The best I can explain it is the whole universe turned paper thin and vertical, and there were an infinite amount of universes on each side like stacked paper or a book or something, but they were all the same. And I was flowing left to right through them all, being ripped out of myself and then back into myself each time, and I tried to stop it and got stuck, it felt like I was being crushed or something. I completely lost it, woke up on my bed fucking scared shitless and I wasnt sure what was real and what wasnt, feeling my arms and shit. Wow. It was insane.  :what:


edit* oh and I had the doors "the end" playing when it happened, along with milkdrop plugin on winamp, it added to the crazyness.


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It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus.
All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the
octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV.
But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns.
Also he got a race car.
Is any of this getting through to you?


Edited by Deity208 (11/06/07 12:40 AM)


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Re: Just tried Sally [Re: emilbus]
    #7601167 - 11/06/07 12:37 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

emilbus said:
. well i could, i just dont want too.





ROFL pretty much my feeling on the drug. I had a friend who overdosed when he was a dipshit and took 3 trips of MDA in a ROW!


On the third day who went into a coma and had a HORRIBLE ecstasy trip if you can imagine that.

When he smoked Salvia for the first time and broke through he had a flashback to his bad MDA trip.

...........

I got Teasered 4 times on mushrooms and was hit several times in the head with a baton. Now he has me afraid that Salvia is gonna send me RIGHT back to that situation for some insight. What makes it even worse is because Im worrying about it, it might happen :crazy2:




HOWEVER i still will try Salvia again someday. Pretty much stay away from it dude unless you want some Religious messege or insight. Salvia is weird as fuck


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Edited by Spiritual Seeker (11/06/07 12:43 AM)


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Re: Just tried Sally [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7601187 - 11/06/07 12:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

redgreenvines said:
5x is just 5 x regular leaf
now you know
use less 5x, or a bit more plain leaf

what happenned was
you shifted mental state to one of much higher resonance.

each part of your being became like a tuning fork ringing with the energy of each sensation and thought as the moments passed.




ya, some people have full blown experiences with plain leaf.

I have never been stoned on salvia.
I have only had psychedelic experiences with salvia.

I know for a fact, or almost a fact that those who have used psychedelics seriously for a long time are more prone to having a really intense experiences on even plain salvia leaf.

If you ask me why I trip balls on 2 hits of 5x and you dont I cant answer that question directly.

Try more I guess.

Its too hard to explain, and hopefully by that time you wont need a sitter, or realize that you never needed one.

Salvia will always be a "dank" psychedelic, no matter how dank your salvia smoke really is.

It lends its self to those who can understand that its not all pins and needles and a short lived "mind fuck".

I dont know what it takes to understand and become one with it.
Your level of psychedelic experience is a part of it no doubt.
There may be other oddities that cause some people to see it as clear as day on only one large hit of pure leaf.


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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Re: Just tried Sally [Re: yageman]
    #7601228 - 11/06/07 01:08 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The SALVIA Experiential Rating Scale
copied from http://www.sagewisdom.org/faq.html

Level -1 "S stands for SUBTLE effects." A feeling that "something" is happening, although it is difficulty to say just what. Relaxation and increased sensual appreciation may be noted. This mild level is useful for meditation and may facilitate sexual pleasure.

Level - 2 "A stands for ALTERED perception." Colors and textures are paid attention to. Appreciation of music may be enhanced. Space may appear of greater or lesser depth than is usual. But visions do not occur at this level. Thinking becomes less logical, and more playful; short term memory difficulties are may be noted.

Level - 3 "L" stands for LIGHT visionary state." Closed eye visuals (clear imagery with eyes closed: fractal patterns, vinelike and geometric patterns, visions of objects and designs). The imagery is often two dimensional. If open eyed visual effects occur these are usually vague and fleeting. At this level phenomena similar to the hypnagogic phenomena that some people experience at sleep onset occur. At this level visions are experienced as "eye candy" but are not confused with reality.

Level - 4 "V stands for VIVID visionary state." Complex three dimensional realistic appearing scenes occur. Sometimes voices may be heard. With eyes open contact with consensual reality will not be entirely lost, but when you close your eyes you may forget about consensus reality and enter completely into a dreamlike scene. Shamanistic journeying to other lands, foreign or imaginary; encounters with beings, entities, spirits; or travels to other ages may occur. You may even live the life of another person. At this level you have entered the shaman's world. Or if you prefer you are in "dream time." With eyes closed you experience fantasies (dream like happenings, with a story line to them). So long as your eyes are closed you may believe they are really occurring. This differs from the "eye candy" closed eye imagery, of level 3.

Level - 5 "I" stands for IMMATERIAL existence." At this level consciousness remains and some thought processes are still lucid, but one becomes completely involved in inner experience and loses all contact with consensual reality. Individuality may be lost; one experiences merging with God/dess, mind, universal consciousness, or bizarre fusions with other objects real or imagined, e.g. merging with a wall may be experienced. At this level it is impossible to function in consensual reality, but unfortunately some people do not remain still but move around in this befuddled state. For this reason a sitter is essential to ensure the safety of someone voyaging to the inner levels. To the person experiencing this, the phenomenon may be terrifying or exceedingly pleasant; but to an outside observer the individual may appear confused or disoriented.

Level 6 - "A stands for AMNESIC effects " At this stage either consciousness is lost; or at least one is unable to later recall what one is experiencing. The individual may fall, or remain immobile or thrash around; somnambulistic behavior may occur; injuries can be sustained without pain being felt; on awakening the individual will have no recollection of what he/she did, experienced or said in level 6. People cannot ever recall what they experience in this very deep trance state. This is not a sought after level as later nothing can be recalled of the experience.



I reached level 5 maybe even borderline level 6, since I dont remember parts of it.. off one hit of 5x standardized. Officially blew my mind haha.


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It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus.
All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the
octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV.
But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns.
Also he got a race car.
Is any of this getting through to you?


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Re: Just tried Sally [Re: Deity208]
    #7601255 - 11/06/07 01:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Call me a pussy, but I just can't do the Salvia thing. I've done it a few times and never have had a very positive experience with it. I have some friends who take it very seriously and really enjoy its effects.

Now, I'm a huge fan of nn,dmt and even 5-meo-dmt. But I just don't like the Salvia blast-off. A big rip of extract is completely different in a way I cannot handle or explain, but just as intense.


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Re: Just tried Sally [Re: etam]
    #7602440 - 11/06/07 12:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i did 20x the other day. i only took one hit. my friend was
playing guitar hero 3 (my name is jonas) i remember sitting on the
ground and then i was somehow on a guitar neck that was being strethced
like a big blanket. there were card people and guitar pick people pulling me back and forth on the guitar neck. they were seeing the song
to me but the words they were seeing ment something else. lol it
was kinda funny now that i think about it.


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