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    #7596770 - 11/04/07 10:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo scary for me.....possibly that my dad is dead and i feel that i am linked to the spiritual world with mushrooms...or is it cause im mentally weak from not meditating or is it that i am just a pussy?


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Re: Why is tripping................................ [Re: ZShroom]
    #7597350 - 11/05/07 03:37 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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... and i am a perfectionist....so that means i need to know what the fuck is going on at all times...kinda fucked up




You've answered your own question.


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Re: Why is tripping................................ [Re: bmy]
    #7597357 - 11/05/07 03:52 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You gotta chill out and stop psyching it up so much. Don't dose more than a couple grams and chill out with that. Any time you start to feel anxious or nervous or scared, just remember that its all just a trip and to go with it. You freak yourself out by thinking that you're special/uniquely screwed, and you will have a rough ride. You remember that tens of millions of people have tripped off mushrooms through the millennia and you will be best off.

Clear your mind up and keep it clear and you'll be solid.


btw... you've got 666 posts.


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Re: Why is tripping................................ [Re: ZShroom]
    #7597371 - 11/05/07 04:29 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I was going to say you're scared of what you were going to see, but like bmy said, you don't want to loose control. In which case, mescaline might be better for you.


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Re: Why is tripping................................ [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #7597421 - 11/05/07 05:31 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You should listen to "Shitstorm" by Strapping Young Lad to get yourself pumped before you dose. That'll help.

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Re: Why is tripping................................ [Re: Ell Ess Bree]
    #7597435 - 11/05/07 05:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Acid is less scary than shrooms by far, IMHO.


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Re: Why is tripping................................ [Re: ZShroom]
    #7597440 - 11/05/07 05:54 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think you are afraid of death. Don't be scared, embrace the idea of death. And have a good trip.


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Re: Why is tripping................................ [Re: g00ru]
    #7597444 - 11/05/07 06:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think you're psyching yourself out.

especially on a lighter dose (heavier doses kinda do what they want), your trip will go pretty much like you think it will in my experience. so if you think you'll have a bad one you just might.

don't worry so much and put on a happy attitude.


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Re: Why is tripping................................ [Re: Ell Ess Bree]
    #7597450 - 11/05/07 06:03 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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or is it cause im mentally weak from not meditating or is it that i am just a pussy?





This mental weakness you talk about has a very clear structure in the mind. Something makes you afraid, whether it is a fear of physical danger, a fear of some kind of personal loss, a fear of being judged by others, or any number of fears. So you have this fear that lives in you, and you want some type of mental strength. Mental strength is a resistance to the fear. It trys to subdue the fear, to overcome it, to push it away, to ignore it.

Psychedelics can cause the exact opposite of mental resistance. They can cause the fear to come out. Psychedelics can be like a mental radar screen, showing you the strongest emotional content in your mind, whether you have been resisting it or not.

The general advice given about psychedelics is that it's important to learn to let go, don't try to control the experience but just let it unfold. This is not mental strength, this is not resistance, but it is also not weakness. Mental strength is the resistance, the effort to control, to subdue one's emotions. Weakness is the running away, the avoiding. In letting go, you still pay attention. You let the experience be what it is.


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Re: Why is tripping................................ [Re: ZShroom]
    #7597541 - 11/05/07 07:13 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

ZShroom, all you need is positive attitude :smile:

  A few month ago , i had a difficult trip (involving an MAOI, 200mg oral DMT and 30mg smoked DMT). After this trip, it was not possible to get a normal trip on DMT or mushrooms. I always had a scary feeling coming and ruining my trip. Even smoking cannabis was bringing this bad feeling. I got the impression that i will never be able to trip without this bad feeling.

  But i kept faith, and took this problem as a challenge, like a fight against myself. Until i realized something that was really obvious. I told to myself : "Hey, wait a minute, i know who is ruining my trips. It is me ! Who can generate these bad feelings in my mind if it is not me ? I deliberatly ruin my own trips ! How can i be so stupid ?".

  Since then, these bad feelings have never come back (i cross my fingers :smile:), and i can trip just like before :cool:


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Re: Why is tripping................................ [Re: nux]
    #7597732 - 11/05/07 09:06 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Don't be afraid before you dose. For me, im usually scared shitless for the first hour of mushrooms, and thats alot of peoples initial reactions.
For the first hour after eating them, you think positive, and call on you're spiritual guides, and the spirits of lost family.

Don't be afraid if you see your father on a trip. I also beleive mushrooms connect you strongly to the spiritual world. I've experienced visions of my old best friend, who died many years ago.


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Re: Why is tripping................................ [Re: RedRainDrop]
    #7598200 - 11/05/07 11:54 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

do some mindfulness meditation practice. once you learn that stuff, you always have a lifeboat available.


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Re: Why is tripping................................ [Re: MotorCityMadman]
    #7598211 - 11/05/07 11:58 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i wanna thank everyone for the comments and input. I once did see my father on a shroom trip, it was crazy....i was looking in the mirror and my face almost fully changed to his face. Really just talking about it helps so much...thankx again to anyone who is trying to help.....ps.picking up meditation tonight!


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Re: Why is tripping................................ [Re: ZShroom]
    #7598279 - 11/05/07 12:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Whenever I trip shrooms, I feel as though I'm walking on the razor's edge between terror and awe. There's always a nameless component of fear to my shroom trips, lurking in the dark corners. Sometimes it's insecurity, sometimes it's physical anxiety, and occasionally it gets the better of me and ruins a trip.

I'm sure you don't need to hear that set and setting are key. But honestly, my suggestion is to give LSD a shot. LSD is every bit as psychedelic as mushrooms but I and several of my friends have found that the acid trip is a good deal less frightening than the mushroom trip. It also has less of a connection to the spirit world. If you can't get LSD, try a different batch of shrooms, try shroom tea, or try a new approach to tripping: new place, new time of day, etc. And always remember set and setting.


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Re: Why is tripping................................ [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7598318 - 11/05/07 12:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well, what is it that scares you?


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Re: Why is tripping................................ [Re: ZShroom]
    #7598327 - 11/05/07 12:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo scary for me.....possibly that my dad is dead and i feel that i am linked to the spiritual world with mushrooms...or is it cause im mentally weak from not meditating or is it that i am just a pussy?




I think you should just take more shrooms.  Much like a rocket blasting off into space, an immense amount of fuel is required otherwise the rocket will fall back to earth.  Shrooms are very much like riding a rocket.  If you dont take enough, you will get only a glimpse of the magical world but you will still be victim to gravity (the ego) and fall back down into familiar habits, stories, and rationalizations. 

If you want to break free of the pull of gravity, you must be prepared for a bumpy ride on the way up. 

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Re: Why is tripping................................ [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #7598407 - 11/05/07 12:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I normally get a bit anxious whithin the first 30 mins of the shrooms kicking in.. after that though i always relax :cool: i think for me its just that it takes me a while to get used to this different state that im in... not really sure what to say though. if your getting scared then take a lower dose untill you feel comfortable to take a higher one. you can still have a great time on a low dose, my first trip i only dosed a gram, not exactly a strong trip but i still enjoyed it. also i think you have to keep reminding yourself that you will be fine, sometimes thats why i freak out slightly, i forget that ive just had some shrooms and that they are the reason that everythings different. have fun.. :thumbup:


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Re: Why is tripping................................ [Re: WScott]
    #7598430 - 11/05/07 12:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Well, what is it that scares you?




The body high makes me anxious.

Though not all shrooms do that. In fact, it's only really the dried mushrooms that I buy from strangers. I ate some of my brother's fresh homegrown a month or two back and it was smooth sailing. Made me want to grow some of my own.


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Re: Why is tripping................................ [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7598766 - 11/05/07 02:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

My dad is dead, and a lot of other people I have loved, too. This has been a concern for me on psychedelics because I am somewhat obsessed with death and have been since my dad died when I was young. Since then quite a few people close to me have died and it really defines a lot of my experience in day to day life, in a weird way. Anyway, when I trip, I know it is likely that this will come up. I make a point to, after eating mushrooms and before they really kick in, bring up in my mind the faces of my loved ones who have moved on. I project love toward them and come to terms with the fact that they have gone. You never really "get over" it, but it is good to bring it up yourself ahead of time if you know it might be an issue, rather than having it surprise you later on. For me, when the mushrooms speak, death does not seem so tragic and horrible, but natural as we all know it is. It seems to fit and make sense, even though in mundane existence it seems to make no sense.


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Re: Why is tripping................................ [Re: TomJoad]
    #7599024 - 11/05/07 03:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

What you need to do is not fight the trip and like many people have said befor do not be afraid of death. You would think this would only make it scarier but trust me it will help you relax so much more. LSD is a lot easier to cope with maybe this is the substance for you.


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