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bbaeker
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nostalgia....or something
#7596664 - 11/04/07 09:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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so heres the thing, whenever i'm really high on something, i'm transported to this place that is so incredibly familiar to me, but at the same time it is brand new to me. i become struck with a sense of something that is so intimate to me, that perhaps i am even part of it, but yet this "thing" is so distant. This "thing" is something i recognize like i recognize my own face, but remains out of reach and unrecognizable. The presence of this "something" is such a mystery to me and i've felt at times that i am so close to looking whatever it is in the "face" and understanding it, but it remains ever out of my grasp. and it is soo comfortable, like an old fair of jeans, or like looking back and remembering ones teddy bear from when they were a child. to find out what this is is one of my motivations for journeying. What could this be? Has anybody else experienced this phenomenon, or is this sensation my own personal eperience? if anyone has any clues let me know.
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Re: nostalgia....or something [Re: bbaeker]
#7596696 - 11/04/07 10:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes I have, its called getting high. Thats why people do it it comfortable and familiar. No matter what drug its better than being sober at some points so people get high.
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Re: nostalgia....or something [Re: bbaeker]
#7596702 - 11/04/07 10:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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you sound like me....con-fucking-fused from doing mushrooms way too much way to fast...now i have 2 g's chillin in my closet cause i dont know how to understand my experience correctly and i am a perfectionist....so that means i need to know what the fuck is going on at all times...kinda fucked up
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Re: nostalgia....or something [Re: ZShroom]
#7596707 - 11/04/07 10:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah, why does being sober suck so bad....i am trying to avoid taking the shrooms i have but it is really getting to me and i feel like they are telling me to eat them......but like i said i need to know what i am dealing with
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bbaeker
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Re: nostalgia....or something [Re: ZShroom]
#7608989 - 11/07/07 09:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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well, what i'm describing is not quite so easily explained away as "its called getting high". In fact i've never even met anyone whe knew what i was talking about when i describe this exprerience maybe you, atpeace, just so happen to know what i'm talking about and you just think everyone experiences the same thing, or you have no idea what i'm talking about. And it's not that i'm confused, i'm intrigued by the mystery, and it certainly isnt from taking way too many mushrooms way too fast. I have taken my time over the many years. now i am looking for input from others because i think many people on here would have very interesting things to say.
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Re: nostalgia....or something [Re: bbaeker]
#7610041 - 11/08/07 06:50 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think I know what your talking about, or at least a similar phenomena. I used to get the feeling when I was a child(its one of my earliest memories) and every now and then I would feel it as I was waking up. The only time I have felt it and been able to hold onto it has been in a deep state of samadhi. To me it feels like (and this makes no sense to anyone but me) I'm experiencing the difference between something infinitely huge, and something infinitely small. I know that makes absolutely no seance, but its always the impression that I got.
Anyway Ive mentioned it to a few people, and no one ever knows what Im talking about.
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eve69
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Re: nostalgia....or something [Re: bbaeker]
#7610091 - 11/08/07 07:41 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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bbaeker said: so heres the thing, whenever i'm really high on something, i'm transported to this place that is so incredibly familiar to me, but at the same time it is brand new to me. i become struck with a sense of something that is so intimate to me, that perhaps i am even part of it, but yet this "thing" is so distant. This "thing" is something i recognize like i recognize my own face, but remains out of reach and unrecognizable. The presence of this "something" is such a mystery to me and i've felt at times that i am so close to looking whatever it is in the "face" and understanding it, but it remains ever out of my grasp. and it is soo comfortable, like an old fair of jeans, or like looking back and remembering ones teddy bear from when they were a child. to find out what this is is one of my motivations for journeying. What could this be? Has anybody else experienced this phenomenon, or is this sensation my own personal eperience? if anyone has any clues let me know.
That's pretty profound. I had that experience for years. And still do. I felt it was the combination of whatever made dejavu, dreams, and ones sense of place or centeredness all at once.
Finally, after much meditative practice that feeling has stabilized even outside of getting high (which I have given up - sob) and it is now what I know to be the experience of being at the center of your own mandala of life.
Because each person is at the center of their experience, and so through relaxation and perceiving into their form and formlessness one comes to their center, without effort.
Some people always feal like this and they are what we call healthy. Others somehow find this centeredness somehow. They become healthy. So don't become despondent.
I am a tantric and have studied both Hindu and Buddhist tantras for 25 years. I will tell you a secret.
This is the Divine Mother, who is Space, and She is your Very Nature as Consciousness. She is everywhere and nowhere because like the wheel, you are at the axel, and also at every point of contact.
Wheel=Yoni=Circle=Mandala=Spacious Awareness=Oneself
It is good to have this experience spontaneously because then the reality is stronger and nondenominational,
and to denominate this feeling and clarity is a misnomer.
You cannot contain this experience, because as you felt, it is your own real face.
You're a lucky one.
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eve69
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Re: nostalgia....or something [Re: eve69]
#7610106 - 11/08/07 07:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Moreover, lots of people are starting to have these 'higher' or 'more sentient' experiences now, sometimes due to their own efforts, but my belief is that they are as a result of millions of true spiritual aspirants doing solid practice in the yogic style, and that sense we interact all the time that experience is suffused amongst the general population at large. Because there is no way to know who is a yogin and who is not. Nobody on Earth would look at me and suspect that I did yoga for 25 plus years. But from the inside, as I look at others i see my energy mix with theirs.
The end result is as you said, seeing your own face clearly. Don't think it's a result of drugs, but rather drugs may have been your key to unlock the door of relaxing into your true nature.
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Re: nostalgia....or something [Re: bbaeker]
#7610223 - 11/08/07 08:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've always thought that what you describe is very common and felt by most everyone when they trip. A feeling of coming home so to speak. You can remember information from your trips including how you feel when tripping. Remembering and experiencing are very different things though. When you trip, you experience again that which otherwise can only be remembered.
A big grin always spreads across my face when the trip starts and that feeling hits me.
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yeah i get that. i've gotten it from drugs, meditation and dreams.
as best i can figure it has to do with the soul or something.
edit: perhaps it has nothing to do with the soul. i would say its closer to being in tune with your inner "I". the perceiving part of you that sees all that you can see. normally the vision is muddy because of all the other parts of the self holding up their various aspects to the lense. to me it is the feeling of having an undistorted lense, an I based totally on perception and awareness.
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Edited by truekimbo2 (11/08/07 08:57 AM)
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bbaeker
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Re: nostalgia....or something [Re: truekimbo2]
#7612772 - 11/08/07 08:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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hmm, this is very interesting, it's exactly the input i've been looking for. As i have been trying to dicover this mystery, it seems to me that it is somehow cannected to the infinite, or it is eternity itself that i am experiencing, which is why it is so familiar, because i have always been a part of eternity, but also so elusive, because my life is live so outside of eternity. It's not just drugs thta trigget this experience either, sometimes i see something, and that feeling hits be for a second, or else i hear a certain sound, and the feeling rushes over me leaving me saying "....what was THAT" but with psychedelics is when it becomes almost tangible, something i can hold onto and look in the eyes without it rushing away. I can at times sense this reality, but not actually FEEL it, if you know what i mean. Like i will be walking in the woods, and i'll look around me, and it's like i can hear it, but i cant see it. Does that make sense? I've had one experience in which i believe i became fused with this mysterious reality, rather than just feeling it or loking at it, but it became me, and i became it, but there was no I and there was no IT, there was just ISness. nothing was everything and everything was nothing. It stayed with me for maybe a couple hours, then drifted away. It felt that at that moment something in me, my very being, my consciousness, i dont know what you want to call it, leaped up to a higher, or a different plane than the one i had always previously lived on. This reality, however, is ever still a mystery. something that i will always KNOW, yet never KNOW, and so infinitely beautiful.
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Re: nostalgia....or something [Re: bbaeker]
#7614049 - 11/09/07 08:07 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well from the simple Buddhist standpoint which is my own now, one is experiencing -emptiness- as their source, and so that emptiness is being interpreted through the mind and emotions as a -bhava- or sense of becoming, or a -rasa- or flavor of mind. If the feeling was of something specific it wouldn't occur in the same mysterious sense where it is identifiable incompletely but wholistically and through a variety of situations and settings.
Frankly I haven't experienced so much through drugs, besides pot, which because it slows down the cognitive processes seems to elongate subtle feelings and thinking modes.
If you are experiencing this spontaneously then I really laud you and suggest that it's a sign of some clarity, either within your mind, or environmentally, or both. Myself, I onyl started experiencing this after years of meditation and yoga.
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Re: nostalgia....or something [Re: bbaeker]
#7614110 - 11/09/07 08:32 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm glad someone else has experienced the same thing, everyone Ive talked to about it just thinks Im crazy. Ive found that during meditation while in the Jhana, my mind eventually drifts into what feels to me like the infinite space between my hands and my head. (I dont understand it, thats just what I perceive) Anyway when it happens, that same feeling pops up, and sustains itself. Sometimes it feels like it is the most beautiful, and at the same time horrifying thing possible.
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