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Helpme1
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Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?)
#7596045 - 11/04/07 07:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I noticed that when you are having those heroic mind blowing, life changing, death then re-birth trips, most often you lose control of your bowels, and/or urination has no meaning, so you dont even attempt to hold it in.
Is there anyway to ensure you dont piss yourself if you are gonna attempt one of these doses?
Also I'm gonna add that you cant really hold it against someone that DOES piss themself, especially if you have gone there before, you know that while you are tripping that hard that peeing your pants doesn't really matter at that point.
I also believe that these sort of trips, while faaar too intense at the time, are VERY good learning experiences, it builds character. The more piss the more you learn.
I'll admit that I've pissed myself during a mega intense trip before. Well, technically i was in my bed when i pissed. Then i pissed on the ground later when i had all my clothes off. Yeh I know that sounds bad, but i HONESTLY had no recolection of the time, date, what had happened, who i was, etc. I had forgetten my entire history at this point and i HONESTLY had no clue that i even needed to use the toilet to pee. (just so you can get an idea of how intense the trip was, at one point I thought that i was giving birth to myself, and i am a male)
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: Helpme1]
#7596085 - 11/04/07 07:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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As for dealing with pissing yourself, depends really..
Edited by ultimo101 (11/04/07 08:00 PM)
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: ultimo101]
#7596190 - 11/04/07 08:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i never tho i know many who have and stop saying level 5 gat dam it
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: notapillow]
#7596223 - 11/04/07 08:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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While peaking on a trip, I've often found myself pondering the idea of if i have to urinate or not, sometimes i'll spend an hour or two of my brain power and thought process debating wether i really have to go, or if i just think i need to go. Is peeing even real? The art of peeing turns into some major part of the code of the universe and is connected to every living being...
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: enesi]
#7596286 - 11/04/07 08:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I hate the level system personally, how can you confine an experience that our beings have not yet created adequate words to describe into five distinct levels?
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: opensaysme]
#7596425 - 11/04/07 08:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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never pissed myself.
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: Locus]
#7596493 - 11/04/07 09:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i would be really upset with myself if i shit myself i think..... yeah
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: apfrommsp]
#7596643 - 11/04/07 09:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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My friend once told me while taking a shit, he forgot he was shitting. Only to look down at the toilet and realize what was going on.
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: MindGorilla]
#7596790 - 11/04/07 10:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I can totally get what you mean, I have never actually pissed myself but I have gotten to the point many times where it's like "Do I need to go or not?" But then I usually just go and stand over the toilet until I do
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: Yosefxp]
#7596823 - 11/04/07 10:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lol, nope
I think most people missed the point of this topic. I'm not talking about a regular trip when you are uncertain as to whether or not you gotta piss.
I am talking you don't even remember that you CAN pee, or what pee is for that matter. You have just been reborn and your bowels are out of control....It is a total accident, and you don't realize what you have done until you have come down.
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: Helpme1]
#7596826 - 11/04/07 10:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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ya seen it happen
mind loops and what not. eventualy you jsut piss and had no idea you even had to.
iv also seen people, like others have stated, neglect to pee cus they are so involved in tripping. i love pissing while triped out. i revel in it
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: notapillow]
#7596835 - 11/04/07 10:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
notapillow said:
i love pissing while triped out. i revel in it
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: ApJunkie]
#7596855 - 11/04/07 10:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I can't say that I've ever pissed myself while tripping out, but I can tell you that there have been many times that I thought I did and certainly many times in which it could have EASILY happened and I would have not cared. I really wouldn't hold it against someone who has done it because it was obviously done for a good reason (like you said it doesn't matter at that point). It happens, I wouldn't even worry about it. I guess if it makes you feel better you could tell the person you're with, "Hey man, it might get pretty heavy. Don't be surprised if I piss my pants, okay?" An understanding friend would reply, "Yeah, man. It's expected. No worries."
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: MorphMan]
#7596970 - 11/04/07 11:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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when the piss hits the dirt shit gets crazy  all sortsa weird adio visual shmeering and weird blooming fractal piss shapes
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: notapillow]
#7597596 - 11/05/07 07:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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well i was in my car the ac was blasting and i felt all wet i wasnt sweating and i didnt pee but it felt like i did haha happened on lady salvia also
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: notapillow]
#7597610 - 11/05/07 07:56 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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notapillow said: when the piss hits the dirt shit gets crazy  all sortsa weird adio visual shmeering and weird blooming fractal piss shapes
So true!
I love going to an actual bathroom when tripping too though, i always trip out so hard in there. Especially if i've been around people for the come up and its my first time just being alone with my thoughts. The sounds of my piss start to echo off the walls until it sounds like niagra falls in there all the while the floor tiles are re-arranging themselves and switching between white and technicolor while the ducks on the shower curtain are starting to dance and call my name.
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: opensaysme]
#7597696 - 11/05/07 08:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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my hands always get clammy and so ill wrap myself up in a blanket and shit and lay down and curl up into a ball and i always feel like my crotch is wet like i just pissed myself but when i touch my pants they are dry its wierd.
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: monstermush]
#7597710 - 11/05/07 08:56 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I often feel "Wet " sensations while under the psilocybin spell.... like ill touch something, and it will suddenly feel wet, then my senses will slowly make it feel dry.
Like many others, i've experienced that "warm" feeling in the crotch, while shrooming... i think its a common effect, and while tripping you think you've pissed yourself.
I've never pissed myself on ANYTHING.
As for you not pissing yourself, (literally) while tripping balls, attach a tube to your dick leading into a bottle.
HEy i didn't say it would be easy!
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: RedRainDrop]
#7597784 - 11/05/07 09:32 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow, I want to trip so hard I piss myself.
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: Rustifer]
#7598319 - 11/05/07 12:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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if I piss while tripping, it usually feels like I've still got piss in my urethra for about 2 hours afterwards. Annoying. Next time it happens I think I will catheterize myself with a ball point pen tube.
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: MotorCityMadman]
#7598399 - 11/05/07 12:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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When tripping I have felt like I am peeing myself but never have, usually I just go pee (in bathroom) so I know even if it feels like im peeing inm not.
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: MotorCityMadman]
#7618244 - 11/10/07 11:01 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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My dick always feels so fucking weird when I'm tripping. It's like "what is this extended limb of tissue coming out of my groin???"?
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: Helpme1]
#7618256 - 11/10/07 11:03 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Me...took about 5.5 grams with a friend who took an equal amount...
It was MADNESS...rolling on the floor with clothes half off, shrieking and laughing uncontrollably and leaking from EVERY HOLE IN MY BODY. I was wet all over and couldn't stop or contain myself and didn't want to...just let it flow.
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: enesi]
#7618366 - 11/10/07 11:33 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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enesi said: While peaking on a trip, I've often found myself pondering the idea of if i have to urinate or not, sometimes i'll spend an hour or two of my brain power and thought process debating wether i really have to go, or if i just think i need to go. Is peeing even real? The art of peeing turns into some major part of the code of the universe and is connected to every living being...
by this time, it's too late
Usually on high doses of any psychoactive, especially hallucinogenics I begin wondering if I have to piss or not. I've been known to randomly dart off in the woods during trippy nature walks and unleash the beast within my bladder...more often than not, the beast was nothing more than a trickle.
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: shiznackazane]
#7618516 - 11/10/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I too, am often paranoid of pissing myself while tripping, especially while in vehicles!
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: PDU]
#7618524 - 11/10/07 12:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I love pissing in the woods on psychedelics, the sounds it makes as it hits the leaves is awesome.
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Re: heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: MOTH]
#7619224 - 11/10/07 03:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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MOTH said: Me...took about 5.5 grams with a friend who took an equal amount...
It was MADNESS...rolling on the floor with clothes half off, shrieking and laughing uncontrollably and leaking from EVERY HOLE IN MY BODY. I was wet all over and couldn't stop or contain myself and didn't want to...just let it flow.
yeah i peed the bed once while tripping. 5g of rue and 6g of cubensis. that was intense.
i cant imagine there is any way to really stop it. what triggered it for me was i had accidentally opened a bottle of water and poured it all over myself during a trance. after that it just started to flow. i must say it was quite colorful and very enjoyable/empowering/satisfying.
adult diaper might be the only real option here.
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Re: heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: waixingren]
#7619283 - 11/10/07 03:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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perhaps fasting for a day or two prior would lessen the chances
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: enesi]
#7619722 - 11/10/07 05:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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enesi said: While peaking on a trip, I've often found myself pondering the idea of if i have to urinate or not, sometimes i'll spend an hour or two of my brain power and thought process debating wether i really have to go, or if i just think i need to go. Is peeing even real? The art of peeing turns into some major part of the code of the universe and is connected to every living being...
by this time, it's too late
Haha I know! I'll tell you what though, on a heroic dose of LSD I cried while peeing outside on a bush. I didn't want to harm the bush with my pee, because it was very acidic, but it made me so sad, and I apologized to the bush. 
When you're on a heroic dose, all bodily functions seem to be related to some higher order...it's strange. And then you make the connection that it's part of a system of things, that you will eat thousands of meals in your lifetime, pee thousands upon thousands of times, and etc, and it will never stop until you die...just something you never really think about when you're sober.
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: tyler_0_durden]
#7620143 - 11/10/07 07:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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haha one of the dudes i sold my beautifully grown fresh mushrooms to tripped so hard that he said the sky turned purple and next thing he knows hes on his bedroom floor with his parents shaking him awake and a puddle of piss all around him... i told him not to take that whole mushroom but... hey i guess foot long and 1.5 in. thick fresh cubes are just that inviting
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: Helpme1]
#13324414 - 10/12/10 05:51 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was wondering if anyone else has had this paranoia/delusion-feeling while tripping on mushrooms... Even though this can seemingly happen when high on weed as well.
Mine started with the first few big trips with synthetic THC (never doing that shit again) with the most physical high I ever got. I started "feeling" something wet in my pants, and began thinking "did I just pee my pants?" I didn't, but the feeling and the paranoia weren't about to disappear. In fact, from then on, when I would eat mushrooms and/or smoke weed, most of the time I would get this paranoia, and it wasn't exclusive to peeing. No, at some point I started feeling like there was something in my pants. I smelled shit. I looked down and thought I saw a stain that could mean piss. Went to the bathroom to check. Nothing had happened.
This went on for a while, and then, after I just got so irritated by the delusions, they disappeared... Sometimes I might remember the situations, and if I'm high when I remember them, I might be paranoid again for a second or two. Luckily I've noticed that the feeling will go away if you don't think about it, which is harder than it sounds but works anyway.
Also fed my girlfriend mushrooms, and se was tripping plus flipping. She enjoyed the experience, but wasn't herself at all during it. At one point she started looking down at her pants, and I knew what was going on. She even asked me if she had peed her pants (takes some balls to ask another person something like that), to which I answered no, and after a while she believed me. A couple of minutes after this, though, she asked me "have I shat my pants?", and again, no she hadn't.
A similar thing has also happened to two of my friends, but they find it very hard to admit this. I know from experience that talking about this kind of stuff makes it easier to deal with and more likely to go away. : D So, if you have experiences like this, just share. They're just weird delusions anyway.
I wonder why it seems to only happen on big shroom-trips... I used to think it's because your skin is more sensitive and you feel your underwear or something (which makes you think there's something in your pants), but I'm not sure. Speculations?
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: Qualophile]
#13324501 - 10/12/10 06:50 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've got some tips that MAY help.
1.) Tena Lady 2.) Spend the entire trip with your pants down on the kazi 3.) Adult Nappy
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: MetalMachineMusic]
#13324953 - 10/12/10 10:02 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have on a heroic dose of LSD. I was so high that I imagined myself to be an infant having to pee, and just though that was normal and ok. Once it let loose though, I snapped out of it and ran to the bathroom to take off my wet pants and undies.
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: nicechrisman]
#13325341 - 10/12/10 11:38 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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i always realize i have to piss when im at the point in my trips where im just laying down in a whole different dimension, then the urge of having to piss will "wake" me up and i will realize i have to pee, but i'll be way too high to get up, or to think about the process of what i have to do in order to pee. Thats why it always ends up taking me an hour or two to actually make it to the bathroom while tripping.
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: Helpme1]
#13325395 - 10/12/10 11:47 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pissed myself while laying in bed on 7.5g of shrooms summer '09.
I find it fairly normal on shrooms to feel the sensation of urinating. Naturally, I assumed it was one of these moments where I just thought I was pissing where in reality I was actually pissing myself. Very embarrassing moment no doubt, but shit happens. Craziest night of my life.
Heroic doses are definitely not to be taken lightly. Sometimes you really don't want to see how far the rabbit hole goes, but if you can survive the trip without completely losing it, well than you've got yourself one hell of an experience to relish.
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: Greenhouse]
#13325422 - 10/12/10 11:51 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh I've been so close on 300+ug of LSD
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: wellage]
#13325573 - 10/12/10 12:19 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sometimes I think I shit or pissed my pants when I'm really high. Shit sucks. It used to happen a lot, but it doesn't really happen anymore. On lsd I thought I pissed my pants as well.
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: DUG]
#13325696 - 10/12/10 12:49 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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The more you pee the more you learn... that's a good moto
maybe if you're going to dose that high you should just plan ahead and wear a diaper so you don't have to worry as much?! lol jk
interesting though, i've never dosed that high
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danvb329

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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: F1234K]
#13326167 - 10/12/10 02:33 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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when I was tripping my fart felt so weird I thought I might have shit myself
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: danvb329]
#13331998 - 10/13/10 04:55 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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never pissed myself, but on a higher dose of tea I kept feeling like my eye was watering and kept trying to wipe it for an hour or so until the others I was with noticed me wiping over and over. We all had a great laugh at that one haha.
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Re: Level 5 heroic doses and peeing your pants (who has done it?) [Re: apfrommsp]
#13332217 - 10/13/10 05:33 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Never. I did have to take a shit once at the peak of a shroom trip though and let me tell you, that was very very strange. (shiny surfaces of the bathroom and whatnot)
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