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Sophistic Radiance
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tripping in the city vs. tripping in nature
#7595687 - 11/04/07 06:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey, I was just wondering if anyone here has experience tripping both in an urbanized environment and in a rural environment.
I've tripped plenty of times, but it's always been in the San Francisco bay area - either in the city itself, or in my hometown, which is about half an hour away and also in a very densely cemented/developed region.
I ate five hits of acid last night. It was the most acid I've ever eaten, and it was definitely reflected in the trip, which rivaled my mushroom experiences in terms of cosmic awareness (mushrooms have always been far more spiritual for me). However, the trip also carried an overwhelming sense of familiarity. I have tripped in my house too many times. I would go for walks, but the only wooded areas near my house are the domain of junkies at night. Whenever I go anywhere in the town tripping, people can tell that I'm not entirely in my head, and give me strange looks (or at least I think they do). And that's the best-case scenario; two years ago, my friend and I were pulled aside by the police in the wee hours of the morning, as we made the most of our acid and gazed at streetlights in the empty intersection in our own hometown. We weren't up to anything really bad and made it off scot-free, but it was an incredibly stressful experience, one that kept me awake for many hours afterward (even though I am usually able to catch a wink of psychedelic sleep at the tail-end of my late-night acid trips, this time was an exception). Now I avoid going out while tripping whenever possible. I'd love to explore, but the fear of getting in trouble over nothing is too great.
I need to be outside tripping. This is difficult, due to my environment. I'd love to be in nature tripping, given the dominating theme of my recent acid trips has been the inhumanity and unnaturalness of modern society. How it tries to beat us into some common shape. Has anybody ever read Technopoly by Neil Postman? This book blew my mind a month or so ago. I agreed with everything in it when I read it sober, but then when I fried and thought about it I was actually disturbed by how astute it was. How nothing in my world was relevant to my grandfather. Two miserable generations, and the disconnect was insurmountable. And now he's dead. That was the saddest fucking thing I've ever thought of. Can you imagine many people even a hundred years ago had such a nebulous and muddled relationship with their own living extended family?
I've always kind of been at home in the city, felt like it was where I belonged. But tripping made me reconsider. I realized that my brain and everybody else's did not develop to exist in this bizarre framework. That's not what it grew in response to. It did not achieve its faculties, its power, its uniqueness so it could live in a box and worship the dollar. I need to get away from the cement and the city streets and the suburbs so I can find out what a human being really is and always has been. Not what a human being wants to be.
I'm sorry if this post is rambling and stupid. Just wondering what your experiences were.
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Edited by Tchan909 (11/04/07 06:25 PM)
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Limerick
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tripping in cities can be fun. anxiety and paranoia is more likely, though. going in stores was fun for me. I'd much rather trip in the nature, myself.
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redgreenvines
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Re: tripping in the city vs. tripping in nature [Re: Limerick]
#7595933 - 11/04/07 07:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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cities farms seaside resorts and lots of airports. farms are great. seaside great. cities ok for lights at night from a cab. airports suck but a bit of twist helps
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champ
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Re: tripping in the city vs. tripping in nature [Re: redgreenvines]
#7596049 - 11/04/07 07:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've never tripped in any hardcore nature and it makes me kind of sad, but big wide open spaces intimidate me a little--like I have no idea what to do in them. Camping and hiking are totally mysterious to me: how do you not get lost and where do you shit? I grew up in the suburbs and live in the city now. Honestly, being in nature is enough of a trip for me whenever I do get out to the mountains or something I'm just amazed at how quiet it is but I have a hard time sleeping because it feels so empty and there's not enough people.
I think the suburbs can be most depressing of all because one of the best things about the city is no one really bothers you and there's a lot of anonymity so you can do whatever you want as long as you keep it to yourself. I've seen crazy-ass schizo people just making total asses of themselves in public and everyone just ignores them including the police. Tripping in the city can make you feel so much wonder at human achievements and ingenuity and also the awareness of how many different ways their are to BE. New Years Eve is my favorite night to trip because there are literally a million different types of celebration going on and it's mind-blowing to think about. I find it easy to connect with the universal human consciousness or whatever in the city. Everybody's just living, dying, being born, eating, sleeping, etc. all around you all the time. In a way, the more far you are from nature the closer you are to raw humanity with all of it's positive and negative aspects. Tripping my ass off in the city I've been knee deep in some raw humanity for sure....
Edited by champ (11/04/07 07:53 PM)
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circularvortex
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Re: tripping in the city vs. tripping in nature [Re: champ]
#7596523 - 11/04/07 09:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've done both, and I much prefer tripping in nature. Go hiking, rock climbing, swimming, anything! It's so much nicer than walking around some dirty city.
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andrewss
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Re: tripping in the city vs. tripping in nature [Re: circularvortex]
#7596538 - 11/04/07 09:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think a nice place in the wilderness would be the best place to trip. Someday
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OneMoreRobot3021



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Re: tripping in the city vs. tripping in nature [Re: champ]
#7596545 - 11/04/07 09:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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champ said: I've never tripped in any hardcore nature and it makes me kind of sad, but big wide open spaces intimidate me a little--like I have no idea what to do in them. Camping and hiking are totally mysterious to me: how do you not get lost and where do you shit? I grew up in the suburbs and live in the city now. Honestly, being in nature is enough of a trip for me whenever I do get out to the mountains or something I'm just amazed at how quiet it is but I have a hard time sleeping because it feels so empty and there's not enough people.
I think the suburbs can be most depressing of all because one of the best things about the city is no one really bothers you and there's a lot of anonymity so you can do whatever you want as long as you keep it to yourself. I've seen crazy-ass schizo people just making total asses of themselves in public and everyone just ignores them including the police. Tripping in the city can make you feel so much wonder at human achievements and ingenuity and also the awareness of how many different ways their are to BE. New Years Eve is my favorite night to trip because there are literally a million different types of celebration going on and it's mind-blowing to think about. I find it easy to connect with the universal human consciousness or whatever in the city. Everybody's just living, dying, being born, eating, sleeping, etc. all around you all the time. In a way, the more far you are from nature the closer you are to raw humanity with all of it's positive and negative aspects. Tripping my ass off in the city I've been knee deep in some raw humanity for sure....
Right on.
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Phish20
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Re: tripping in the city vs. tripping in nature [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#7599045 - 11/05/07 03:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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There is no contest...tripping in nature is the best. Nothing is better than hiking through a forest tripping. In the city I get too annoyed with places and people if I decide to walk around. I is also alot more confusing, tripping in a city, and it is more likely to get arrested. Nature is more much spiritual and I have much more of a meaningful time tripping there.
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aDoS
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I like tripping right here inside...thats counted as a city I guess?
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Re: tripping in the city vs. tripping in nature [Re: aDoS]
#7599145 - 11/05/07 04:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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tripping in the city is overwhelming for me i definitely say tripping in nature is the best experience
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freezepooter
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Re: tripping in the city vs. tripping in nature [Re: cagerplaya247]
#7599172 - 11/05/07 04:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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City = Sociology
Nature = Spirituality & Misticism
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Leanin
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i have never had any negative parts of a trip when i was out in nature.
i always get some dark parts during trips in the city.
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monstermush
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Re: tripping in the city vs. tripping in nature [Re: Leanin]
#7600235 - 11/05/07 08:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i tripped in seattle.. and man if anyone has been to capitol hill in at late you know its not a place you want to be trippin.. just hella wierd people tranny's crackheads tweakers i didnt feel safe at all i panicked and made my friend drive me home. and the entire way back i am in the back of a jeep with the Top off since it was summer mobbing down the highway in the back going like 80 i was scared shitlesss.
Every since then i've never liked the city i think its ugly its a bunch of concrete and glass which seems impressive but then it puts me in the state of mind in which i feel the pressures of life.. the pressure to become successful and compete amongst all the other people on this earth.
It made me appreciate my life and the comfortable suburb i live in i do not take it for granted anymore i realized the gift i have been given and the opportunities I have.
I've tripped in nature and i like it way more no pressure just relaxation
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Re: tripping in the city vs. tripping in nature [Re: monstermush]
#7600259 - 11/05/07 08:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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tripping in the city can be intense but it lacts the infanite sense of fractal abandon that the forest has
zonked out of my brain, on van ness ave. in SF at 12 midniht new years eve. sprinting my ass of intense memories
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Land_Crab
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Big cities tend to make me uncomfortable. There are too many people moving too fast and too close in an environment so artificial that plants look out of place. It's all constrictive, loud, frenetic, regimented... with every major sight line following an axis parallel or perpendicular to one another. All this human energy and activity can be fun in small doses but (for me) feels stifling and anxiety-provoking over time. Surely ones degree of tolerance for city life is directly related to the environment in which one grew up in. I grew up in a smallish town with easy access to big areas of pure nature.
Going way out into nature (meaning far away from people and technology) and tripping can be remarkable. It's quiet -- no constant WHOOOOOSHHHHHH of traffic, no smelly mass human activities, and you can actually see the stars the way they really are. It's primal. Everyone should trip out in nature/away from people at least once.
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Spanielmander
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Re: tripping in the city vs. tripping in nature [Re: Land_Crab]
#7600533 - 11/05/07 09:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've tripped in New York City, suburban Trenton, NJ, and the Great Smokey Mountains in North Carolina, and of the three, the wilderness was my favorite.
Tripping in the city is dangerous. There are massive machines traveling at high speed in every direction. When I went into Starbucks tripping, I forgot to pay for my coffee and had a big spat with the baristas or whatever... almost got arrested.
Tripping in the suburbs I found to be pretty enlightening. I was with my best friends, so they, their actions, and their words (with mine) constituted most of the trip. In the suburbs I felt that all my immediate desires could be met easily, without much risk to my body.
Tripping in nature is where humans are meant to trip. I firmly believe this. Whenever I trip in nature, I feel my true animal nature reveals itself. I feel I understand that my own death is inevitable, and that I will feed nature when I die. This is something I don't think about when I trip in urban or suburban environments, and I think it's one of the most essential thoughts of life.
Sure, it's fun to marvel at the city, but the city is temporary and fragile compared to nature. Isn't it nicer to consider yourself part of something permanent?
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Re: tripping in the city vs. tripping in nature [Re: Spanielmander]
#7600565 - 11/05/07 09:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have tripped in as many different nature centers and nature parks that are in a 30 mile radius from me...which ahs been about 4 or 5....and it is amazing compared to being in the city which to me just causes lots of stress and paranoia due to the mad ammounts of people
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monstermush
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Re: tripping in the city vs. tripping in nature [Re: apfrommsp]
#7600596 - 11/05/07 09:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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nature > city
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MrKite1
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Re: tripping in the city vs. tripping in nature [Re: champ]
#7600602 - 11/05/07 09:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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champ said: I've never tripped in any hardcore nature and it makes me kind of sad, but big wide open spaces intimidate me a little--like I have no idea what to do in them. Camping and hiking are totally mysterious to me: how do you not get lost and where do you shit?
I love being out in the woods, the further out the better. Places like Wyoming are incredible. It is so empty FM radio goes dead. The absence of light is a rare experience. Stargazing in remote locations is a humbling experience.
I like being out in the woods when I trip or in general. It gives me a sense of freedom I can't experience elsewhere.
As for handling things like not getting lost or using the bathroom. Well you figure that sort of thing out quickly or you don't camp much. You especially don't ingest drugs and camp much without those skills.
Tripping in the middle of nowhere is great fun.
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Shroomism
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Depends on your state of mind. I've tripped in both settings many times each. I FAR FAR FAR prefer to trip in nature.
Don't get me wrong, city tripping can be cool.. it can be interesting to say the least. Observing people and asking yourself those infinite questions like why do men live in such vast concrete jungles. But I'm an introvert by nature, and being surrounded by lots of "normal" people while I'm tripping has a tendency to freak me out. And then if you get in that mindset, you can sort of feel trapped and get caught in a negative thought cycle. Paranoia, Anxiety, etc. Maybe other cities are different.. only major cities I've tripped in is Baltimore, DC, and Orlando, and granted those aren't the greatest cities. Then there's all the chaotic shit of cities, that just doesn't match with my vibe.
But tripping in nature is just so much infinitely better imo. I feel free, more alive, instead of questioning all those mindfuck questions.. I delve into the nature of the universe. It's just so much more natural and free-spirited.
So Nature > Cities 100fold imo.
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