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bumble
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Hard drugs to get out of a bad trip?
#7595622 - 11/04/07 06:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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So your tripping like you always do but before you know it you start freaking out or feel horrible but dont know why, its moments like those you'd like to have a safety net.
Coke is supposedly one of the ultimate feel good drugs, would snorting a line during a bad trip pull you out of it?.
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usefulidiot13
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Re: Hard drugs to get out of a bad trip? [Re: bumble]
#7595637 - 11/04/07 06:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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ha no.
it would probably make it worse.
benzos would be much better.
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Limerick
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Re: Hard drugs to get out of a bad trip? [Re: bumble]
#7595640 - 11/04/07 06:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Possibly. but I know plenty of people who get alot of anxiety when doing coke. I don't think its positive to have a good time on it.
opiates, for me, have worked. can cause nausea, but it puts me in a peaceful nothing matters mindset.
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Re: Hard drugs to get out of a bad trip? [Re: Limerick]
#7595667 - 11/04/07 06:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i would think a stimulant would be the last thing id ever want to mix with a bad trip.
really though, my first bad trip was probably one of the most important experiences of my life.
if it starts to happen id just ride it out. taking other shit to calm down isnt the way i like to do it.
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bumble
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Re: Hard drugs to get out of a bad trip? [Re: usefulidiot13]
#7595702 - 11/04/07 06:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
usefulidiot13 said:taking other shit to calm down isnt the way i like to do it.
If its of nightmare quality you'll be eating those words. It just has to be bad enough to make anyone desperate.
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Re: Hard drugs to get out of a bad trip? [Re: bumble]
#7595719 - 11/04/07 06:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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taking other drugs to make a bad trip is the easy way out and usually riding out the bad trip is the way to go. but sometimes it is so intense and scary that i'd sometimes do it, too.
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usefulidiot13
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Re: Hard drugs to get out of a bad trip? [Re: bumble]
#7595746 - 11/04/07 06:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
bumble said:
Quote:
usefulidiot13 said:taking other shit to calm down isnt the way i like to do it.
If its of nightmare quality you'll be eating those words. It just has to be bad enough to make anyone desperate.
doubt it.
ive had bad trips.
for me taking other shit to calm down is missing the point of the entire trip no matter how good or bad.
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TheWorldWeary
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Re: Hard drugs to get out of a bad trip? [Re: usefulidiot13]
#7595757 - 11/04/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've always heard that taking bars should calm you down during a bad trip...
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Quake3
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Re: Hard drugs to get out of a bad trip? [Re: bumble]
#7595760 - 11/04/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd avoid stimulants and alcohol during a bad trip. I usually go with benzos, only because I don't want to waste opiates - which probably work better. Even antihistamines (Benadryl) might work OK. While not easy to do during a bad trip, eating a heavy meal, calms me down.
If you attempt to heat food, make sure you don't leave the gas on. In fact, I don't recommend you don't use the stove during a strong trip with no sitter.
If you attempt to sleep or knock yourself out, remain on your side to avoid choking on your vomit.
Cannabis can be used in small amounts if you feel physically ill, especially nauseous. I avoid smoking too much during a bad trip because it increases paranoia.
Nitrous Oxide can turn a bad trip around, so can a walk outside.
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Re: Hard drugs to get out of a bad trip? [Re: Quake3]
#7595799 - 11/04/07 06:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Some fresh air outside, a cig and maybe some weed.
Although I always hear bad trips are the most significant.
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usefulidiot13
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Re: Hard drugs to get out of a bad trip? [Re: TheWorldWeary]
#7595804 - 11/04/07 06:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
TheWorldWeary said: I've always heard that taking bars should calm you down during a bad trip...
that is definitely right.
its just a matter of wanting to do that or not...
quake - haha yes that would be a waste of opiates.
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TheWorldWeary
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Re: Hard drugs to get out of a bad trip? [Re: usefulidiot13]
#7595828 - 11/04/07 06:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, in my experience setting is really important. Fresh air or some good music really can go a long way.
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Re: Hard drugs to get out of a bad trip? [Re: TheWorldWeary]
#7595918 - 11/04/07 07:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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drink water or hot chocolate if it's cold slow down no cocaine - it will intensify looping and tight sensations.
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Re: Hard drugs to get out of a bad trip? [Re: MindGorilla]
#7595988 - 11/04/07 07:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
MindGorilla said: Some fresh air outside, a cig and maybe some weed.
Although I always hear bad trips are the most significant.
QFT - once you've had enough difficult experiences you realize that there is no such thing as a "bad" trip, but theoretically, I think you nailed it.
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Re: Hard drugs to get out of a bad trip? [Re: KilroyMilosevik]
#7596156 - 11/04/07 08:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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seriously though
i think there is a point when the trip gets so bad that you definately know and realize that you want that bitch to END.NOW.
I'm not talking about a piss-ant pussy dosage of mushrooms like an 1/8
we are talking 8+ grams here. This is serious shit, first timers will be screaming/crying convulsing on the floor, writhing in disgust. Once you see someone go through this you would DEFINATELY want it to end for them. It isnt a pretty sight
I'm seriously on the ropes about wether you should wait it out and when its over you will understand how powerfull the experience was. But I also believe moderation is probably better.
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Re: Hard drugs to get out of a bad trip? [Re: Helpme1]
#7596829 - 11/04/07 10:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Think about the comedown from the coke plus the mushrooms would still be there.
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somebody041
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Re: Hard drugs to get out of a bad trip? [Re: elmanimal]
#7597095 - 11/05/07 12:17 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i'm pretty sure the cops give xanax to people in custody that are freaking out on mushrooms
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BiG_StroOnZ
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Re: Hard drugs to get out of a bad trip? [Re: somebody041]
#7597215 - 11/05/07 01:18 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Try eating some dark chocolate. It induces a sense of euphoria, a result of the brain producing natural chemicals that are closely related to opium.
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Dreamer987
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Re: Hard drugs to get out of a bad trip? [Re: bumble]
#7597225 - 11/05/07 01:25 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Having Benzos on hand can be enough reasurance for me to avoid a bad trip. I know that i can abort at any time. If you have to come down fast, subligually is the way to go. Crush up a pill, and let it completely desolve under your toung. Tastes bad, but you'll be feeling good in a few minutes.
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Re: Hard drugs to get out of a bad trip? [Re: Dreamer987]
#7601440 - 11/06/07 05:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Antipsychotics like Zyprexa are the "direct" way to counter a bad trip, but aren't as readily available because they aren't recreational.
http://www.shroomery.org/9084/What-is-and-how-can-I-avoid-reduce-come-up-anxiety
"More importantly, especially if you\'re voyaging into deep space, the new atypical anti-psychotic tranquilizers are bomber; Zyprexa (olanzapine) specifically. It doesn\'t taste bad, so chew it and hold it in your cheeks. You\'ll start coming down fast. And in 15 minutes or half an hour you should be asleep. These drugs actively reign in and normalize imbalances of serotonin and dopamine. They\'ll also halt a flash back or get rid of Hallucinogen Persistent Perceptual Disorder. Beware, though, if you\'re not psychotic there\'s a wicked hangover the next day. For best effects I\'d drop anywhere between 5 to 10mg on your self. Save this for a worst case scenario, ie in the event you\'re pretty sure you\'re going to having lasting psychological problems from the experience you are having (again, exceptionally rare, especially with mushrooms, but it happens)."
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