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johnm214



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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: TheWorldWeary]
#7596423 - 11/04/07 08:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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TheWorldWeary said: I should point out that the new testament is not a re-wording of the old testament, it's a completely different set of books all together. I guess god decided to change the rules. New testament is all about the post-Jesus god.
yeah, really
wtf people... new testament is just a different set of books. But it is much more hippy-friendly, peace and love type stuff; whereas the old testament is more, sell your daughter as a slave, women can't wear gold, god will kill you, et cet.
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ChiefGreenLeaf

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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: Nephlyte]
#7596516 - 11/04/07 09:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nephlyte said: If only more people read the bible, we'd have a lot less christians.
most definantly
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The Rastafarians have a practice called "headresting," where they get really stoned and open the Bible to a random verse. The pot is supposed to help them see the deeper meaning behind the verse, and realize its relevance to their life. You might want to try it.
As for me, I don't smoke pot anymore, but I do often open to a random page in the Bible, though I seem to keep coming back to the same passage(Psalm 37).
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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: Silversoul]
#7596574 - 11/04/07 09:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Never heard of that Silversoul, that's pretty cool. I don't smoke much pot anymore, at most once a week but I can definitely see how that could make the verses all the more significant. Tonight I read a little bit of John, there were a few good verses I liked in it, such as:
"I tell you the truth, no one can enter the Kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. You should not be surprised at my saying, "You must be born again.' The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear it's sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."
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MyInnerChild
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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: TheWorldWeary]
#7597143 - 11/05/07 12:35 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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TheWorldWeary said: New testament is all about the post-Jesus god.
That makes more sense now...two testaments=two Gods...the "pre" one for the 1st one...and some other mixture of a trinity or some other being perhaps for the "post" era...thanks for the clarity. :}
I've been inspired! I see the light! I'm gonna start up a corporation...I'll call it Post-Jesus and see if I get sued by the cereal company. lol
Oh, and John-boy...read it again man...personally, I wear gold and the jewelry given to Rebecca was gold and totally hippy man...a nose ring...far out!
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Cameron
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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: MyInnerChild]
#7597277 - 11/05/07 02:05 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Reading the Bible is a huge undertaking, even in small doses. I've tried a few times, and each time I end up getting lost in the language and the ridiculously long lists of names and events (the entire book is littered with them). I'll definitely keep at it, though, for reasons already mentioned (my favorite being the know how to effectively dumbfound Bible thumpers - it's surprising how few devout Christians actually read and understand the Bible in it's true essence).
Oh, and one more thing: Hyperion by Dan Simmons is a kick ass book. I'm actually on the third book in the series (Endymion), I just picked it up today and I can't wait to read it (but I started 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea yesterday, so I have to finish that first - can't break protocol).
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The Bible can be a beautiful thing if you read it with an open mind. The Old testament is more interesting in my opinion while the new is more profound. I'm not a Chrisitan but I do appreciate many of the lessons in the Bible. The key is to separate the old superstitions and rituals/culture of the times and concentrate on the lessons that can apply today.
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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: Cameron]
#7597297 - 11/05/07 02:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hyperion by Dan Simmons is a kick ass book. I'm actually on the third book in the series (Endymion), I just picked it up today and I can't wait to read it (but I started 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea yesterday, so I have to finish that first - can't break protocol).
Now, not meaning to steal the thread but that's a subject we can shmooze on for hours...other "books" besides "The" (one and only) book lol
Tuesdays With Morry was a book I read this summer..by Mitch Albom... If more people made this their "Bible" there'd be a lot less superficiality in the world...imo Not that I'm accusing anyone specific of being so,,,we all have our moments. Okay, maybe not people like Mthr. Theresa...seriously.
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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: MyInnerChild]
#7597314 - 11/05/07 02:33 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've recently become very interested in the subject of superficial/trivial pursuits, as I've just graduated high school and am now expected to pursue the sort of life that society's laid out for me: a respectable career, a big house, an expensive car, vacations in the Caribbean - all of the things that pertain to the ideal existence in North America. So far, I have no desire to pursue wealth, gadgets, or the like... I'm sure that will change with time, though.
So, could you please give me a short outline of the plot? I may be very interested!
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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: Cameron]
#7597428 - 11/05/07 05:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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One perspective may be that the more taxes you raise (thru employees and such) the more worthy you are .
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I stole a Gideon bible from a hotel in New Hampshire. I'm not reading it.
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MyInnerChild
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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: Cameron]
#7597586 - 11/05/07 07:40 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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So, could you please give me a short outline of the plot? I may be very interested!
So glad you asked man! It's a documentary of sorts...beautifully written by a once superficial sports writer/commentator who finds out that his old college Sociology professor from Brandise U., Morry Schwartz, has Lou Gehrig's Disease. During a strike at his Detroit paper he decides to go visit this prof. in Boston and ends up visiting every Tues. for several months. The book is a recording of the way this brave, noble, very human, very sweet teacher teaches Mitch his outlook on life, love, death and dying. It's non-religious yet gleans from Judeao-x-stian and Buddhist ideologies. His disease slowly paralyzes his body till Morry is unable to move on his own yet throughout the tragic ordeal his shining peaceful accepting moral yet non-judgmental light shines through.
That's it according to my take on it. There is a website..mitchalbom.com I believe where you can hear excerpts of the tapes Mitch made of Morry. Google him...you won't regret it.
Please don't be offended by my lack of the use of the prefix of x-stianity. The word means messiah in Latin and being that the jury is still out as to who was/is/will be "the" messiah and to many people; if one ever existed/will ever exist, I therefore don't make any claims if I can get away with it. In public casual conversation, I use the term, sure. I can't go around explaining like this...what a nudge I'd be... 
Enjoy the book, it's pretty short b/c Mitch didn't have a long time with Morry but it's a matter of quality, not quantity when one is with a special individual. How sad that his ideas and ideals are considered "special" by N. American society! ...you're quality and I wish you a life of quantity in all things you need to be successful according to your personal standards.
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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: bukkake]
#7597591 - 11/05/07 07:45 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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bukkake said: I stole a Gideon bible from a hotel in New Hampshire. I'm not reading it.
But why waste it? Paper weight anyone? lol
Rocky Raccoon, Went up to his room, Only to find Gideon's bible. ~(Beatles) ..stole it and never got to read it cuz he got shot down in the street like a thieving raccoon. ~(Monique)
Edited by MyInnerChild (11/05/07 07:51 AM)
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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: evolprim]
#7597652 - 11/05/07 08:30 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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So what does the Bible have to say about all of this?
The Bible is just another book. Its in no way authoritive except when it comes to deificient quotes that lack any dynamics, from a Daoist point of view. Some of it is really kinky, too.
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Silversoul
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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: bukkake]
#7597824 - 11/05/07 09:45 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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bukkake said: I stole a Gideon bible from a hotel in New Hampshire. I'm not reading it.
Watch out for those Gideons, man. I heard they're ninjas.
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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: Silversoul]
#7598990 - 11/05/07 03:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Read it like ancient history if you like... There really were Philistines who resented the "We're the chosen people get off the land" stuff and fought to keep it and did all sorts of horrible stuff to retaliate like suicide bombings...oh no! I got current history mixed-up with ancient...sorry.
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"I tell you the truth, no one can enter the Kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. You should not be surprised at my saying, "You must be born again.' The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear it's sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."
That is Good!
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MyInnerChild
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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: Lion]
#7607678 - 11/07/07 04:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey Bug... "Mr. Anderson so nice to see you again....we've veen waiting for you"
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