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i'm going to start reading the bible
    #7595099 - 11/04/07 03:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i just bought a bible at indigo and the pages have gold rims

i don't really know why i bought it, i think it's mostly for the lulz and so i can go up to my brother and pretend to earnestly want to read some bible verses with him. i'm going to a church on sunday cause a guy invited me but i'm just going there to film them and then get high later and watch it back

im also born jewish and with my experiences with shrooms and acid i saw the ignorance of the bible but now im thinking it's a pretty psychedelic book and i'm just drawn to it

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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7595115 - 11/04/07 04:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The Bible is an interesting read.  I'm assuming you're reading the New Testament?  Probably King James version?

I read all of the major world religions' texts back when I was 14.  I wanted to know where people were coming from, and it was VERY informative.  It was also very interesting to see the commonalities between the texts, despite the obvious antagonism between the practitioners.  The central ideas are VERY similar, but the frills and enhancements are what the majority focus on as being both important AND divergent.

If we all followed the central ideas of the major religious texts, the world would be a fantastic place to live. :heart:  Too bad that these ideas have not come to fruition.


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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7595118 - 11/04/07 04:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

there are better story tale books than the bible:tongue:


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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: danlennon3]
    #7595144 - 11/04/07 04:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If only more people read the bible, we'd have a lot less christians.


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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: danlennon3]
    #7595154 - 11/04/07 04:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Exactly, Veritas. That is the kind of attitude that I carry with me. I also saw the Bavagita at Indigo and I was thinking of buying it but I decided not to. I have read a little from each major religious text and they do indeed have similar core messages.

Dan, that's just like... your opinion, man. I remember after I had an ego loss experience on mushrooms I ended up reading a few verses of the Bible and it was one of the most intense things I had ever read, I was blown away by the magnitude. There are some pretty epic novels out there which cover stories about the secrets of the universe and battles for eternity. For example, I just bought a book called Hyperion by Dan Simmons.


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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7595172 - 11/04/07 04:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

have fun, I read it... very interesting, especially the old testament

I want to read the Quran (sp?)


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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: danlennon3]
    #7595185 - 11/04/07 04:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It is a big effort at some points.


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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: johnm214]
    #7595207 - 11/04/07 04:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I was dissapointed when I found out the verse samuel jackson quotes in pulp fiction was made up.


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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: WScott]
    #7595223 - 11/04/07 04:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

WScottsdale said:
It is a big effort at some points.




In what way?


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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7595269 - 11/04/07 04:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Take a look at Numbers, lol. You might be reading NT though, that is in OT.


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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: WScott]
    #7595335 - 11/04/07 04:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If it ain't broke, don't fix it...
The old works for me just fine...with explainations.


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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7595365 - 11/04/07 05:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

the one I bought has both in it, i'm pretty familiar with the OT actually, they thought that at Synagogue but i'm sure there are some good messages in NT too.


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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7595394 - 11/04/07 05:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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i'm sure there are some good messages in NT too.




What makes you so sure? I'm not trying to be provocative, just pointing out that a re-wording is a waste of time as far as I'm concerned. I might get scholars together to re-word the constitution but what would that do for the U.S.? If it works..don't fix it makes sense to me imo.


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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7595781 - 11/04/07 06:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I read the bible when I was a teenager. It was a hard read at times and took me a while to do. I'm better for it I think. You understand a lot more about society after that, also gives you a lot of reference points in conversation. I haven't read all the other spiritual texts like that other guy though. I bet that would give real perspective.


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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7595861 - 11/04/07 07:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You don't have to become a Christian to come away with good things by reading parts of the Bible. Even to an atheist it has its profound sides.

My personal favorite is the first part of Genesis, the dawn of Creation. Once it goes beyond Adam and Eve it becomes less interesting to me though.

Read some other Holy Books as well.

The Qur'an has beautiful Suras to read and ponder. Read some holybooks, just split the book in two at a "random" place, read a bit, put it away and repeat.

My personal favorite is the Hindu book the Bhagavad Gita. Some of those verses have sent me on hours of pondering.

A 21st century Holy Book should be written based on the essence of what unites the major religions. That essence is pure gold.


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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7595892 - 11/04/07 07:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I should point out that the new testament is not a re-wording of the old testament, it's a completely different set of books all together. I guess god decided to change the rules. New testament is all about the post-Jesus god.


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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7595916 - 11/04/07 07:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i remember jordan maxwell talking about a version of the bible that includes commentary with an analysis of various different translations for every verse.

unfortunately the name does not come to my mind, but if you're interested you can easily pick up on it in his video lecture Sons of God.

if i ever decide to intensively study the bible, it will be with that version. :thumbup:


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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7595997 - 11/04/07 07:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I view each book in the Bible as an account of an individual interpretation of the central message. It doesn't matter then if there are contradictions because individual interpretations do conflict.

The New Testament would, in time, be condensed into a shortened form and join the old testament books as new accounts are recorded.

I imagine the adherents to the old books hung on to their versions just as adamantly as Christians do to the New Testament.


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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: TheWorldWeary]
    #7596023 - 11/04/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I should point out that the new testament is not a re-wording of the old testament, it's a completely different set of books all together. I guess god decided to change the rules. New testament is all about the post-Jesus god.




Yeah, it often appears to be several Gods taking turns bashing humanity.


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Re: i'm going to start reading the bible [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7596390 - 11/04/07 08:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i am in an old testament class, and its defiinetly interesting. i mostly appreciate the lol value, but that is not to say that in general the bible doesnt have some good advice. a lot of it is bs, but i try to look at it like any other story. there are good lessons in little red riding hood, and there are good lessons in the bible.

not to mention knowing the bible will help you when you are having debates with the bible thumping christians.


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