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passing off one drug as another....wtf is with people
    #7594965 - 11/04/07 03:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I've read a lot of posts about people being fooled into buying mescline, acid, etc. and then report back that it ended up being some RC or some other subtance (or none at all!).

What is with the dealers these days?? Is an extra 5 dollars really worth it to rip someone off and make them think they are getting what they expect?

Anytime I've shared any goodies with others, whether it's shrooms, lsd, mesc, or some odd ball RC. I am always honest about what it is. People usually end up loving it anyway, even if they've never heard of 2c*..or DO* or whatever. What would i gain if i told them their 2ce was really acid?

In general, i think the majority of people starting out in these substances, have never heard of the term "rc" let alone be able to distinguish between that, and whatever it's being passed off as.

Do these "dealers" simply do this to charge more for less? Or is it a matter of wanting to be the "awesome cool" guy with "all the connections"

I guess I just dont see the novelty in passing off one substance as another. And it's a shame that it happens as much as it does in the psychedelic circles. :frown:

For all you true and honest people out there spreading the knowledge and love, keep it up, infect those around you with it.

To the shady ass cats that dont think twice about giving someone 3mg of doi and telling them it's acid, eat a dick!!  :blowme:


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Re: passing off one drug as another....wtf is with people [Re: enesi]
    #7595013 - 11/04/07 03:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

mybe some of the dealers are just as clueless or they'd think it wont sell if they say some strange chemical name


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Re: passing off one drug as another....wtf is with people [Re: enesi]
    #7595075 - 11/04/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

probably most dealers don't even know what it is.


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Re: passing off one drug as another....wtf is with people [Re: enesi]
    #7595135 - 11/04/07 04:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm sure there's lots of reasons why they would do that. I'd imagine a good part of it is that it's a bit harder to sell RC's because most people wouldn't be as comfortable with that. Something like LSD though, that's in such high demand it wouldn't be a problem. I hear about stuff like that sometimes, the honest ones will say "no, but i have this instead...", and risk losing a sale. The others pass it off as whatever the other person wants.

Actually, on second thought it's probably all for the money... just like pretty much everything else it would seem.


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Re: passing off one drug as another....wtf is with people [Re: enesi]
    #7595414 - 11/04/07 05:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

some asshole over here sold some people i know "LSD". It turned out to be paper. just paper. no LSD involved, or any other substance besides altered cellulose.:mad2:

I find it incredibly ironic, that the same people you find talking about the pigs in the whitehouse and in high corporate positions, are the ones that rip you off.
A lot of people in the drug community talk about pigs in the whitehouse etc., but the ones that rip you off don't have a place to talk.

I can't stand the dishonesty. Though it has taught me a lot about human behavior. Even my good friends try to make a buck at the expense of some person that would buy for a higher price.

No matter what seat of power some people sit in, they are apt to abuse it. I don't believe i've ever ripped some one off. Because of the frequency it happens, I'm sure i've done it in the past while rusing myself over with some excuse, so i might not be as innocent as i think i am. But i try to give everyone a fair deal, and i would NEVER lie about what substance i was giving to some one. That is absolutely ridiculous.


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Re: passing off one drug as another....wtf is with people [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7595485 - 11/04/07 05:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yea, i'm sure a lot of it is just plain being greedy. Buying a few grams of RC's for peanuts and laying them to some paper and selling them for 10 bucks a pop as LSD is just to easy to pass up i guess for these rats. I just hate to see people getting ripped off so easily by a community that should be in the business to spread the knowledge and turn people on, not make a couple extra bucks.

For instance, I had a good friend ask me about getting some blotters for him, i couldn't come through so i gave him a few caps of 2c-e and gave him a quick crash course on the details of it since it was totally new to him.. He called me the next day and was very grateful, and was now interested in learning more about the other rc's out there.

I just wish more people would do their part, and try to watch out and be careful with the things they come across in the street. Dealers rip people off because the customer doesn't know any better..so start spreading some brain food to your fellow cosmic travelers out there!!


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Re: passing off one drug as another....wtf is with people [Re: ImperialCactus]
    #7595493 - 11/04/07 05:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think it has a lot to do with the fact that drug dealers don't give a muther fucking shit about you.

Drug dealers are generally clueless in my experience and they aren't selling acid or shrooms or weed cause they wanna help you expand your mind. They do it cause they want to make money, and yeah if they can rip off a bunch of people by selling some bunk shit as acid then why not.

They're reasoning is probably pretty simple. "Fuck you".

Lets not forget that selling drugs is actually illegal and criminals in general don't tend to be the most socially responsible people (as in they are the antithesis of that).

Now I realize there are good people selling (particularly psychedelics) but really, your buying drugs and it is illegal (very illegal actually if you live in the US). You can't really expect to be dealing with the most wholesome people.

So I would say it comes down to three things, they are clueless as to what they are actually selling, and/or they are assholes, or they aren't either one of those and are pretty nice people to buy from.

Im not trying to insult anyones drug dealer, like always speaking in generalities should be looked at just like that, as generalities.

But in my experience I am either dealing with some kid who knows fuck all, or some shady dude who would rip me off in less than a second if I let him. I did meet a dude at bonaroo that was pretty cool. hippie dude, knew what he was talking about, had some amazing fucking weed and average prices on some ok shrooms. They where big ass shrooms which always looks impressive but overall I think it hurt potency to let them get that big.


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Re: passing off one drug as another....wtf is with people [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7595494 - 11/04/07 05:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I got some doc one time when I was being sold acid. I had no idea what it was at the time but I knew soon after I comsumed it and when I was still fucked up 20hours later that it wasn't lsd. I was not a happy camper to say the least.


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Re: passing off one drug as another....wtf is with people [Re: enesi]
    #7595507 - 11/04/07 05:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

people are people.

it isnt surprising that even in the psychedelic community some people are just in it for the cash.


people fuck people over. it is quite common.


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Re: passing off one drug as another....wtf is with people [Re: usefulidiot13]
    #7603364 - 11/06/07 04:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I got sold bunk acid on a blotter, I don't know what the hell it was though. I stayed up all night layed in my bed watching tv and felt like I was insane, I can't really describe it any better.


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Re: passing off one drug as another....wtf is with people [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7603404 - 11/06/07 04:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Caribou_Lou said:
I got sold bunk acid on a blotter, I don't know what the hell it was though. I stayed up all night layed in my bed watching tv and felt like I was insane, I can't really describe it any better.




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Re: passing off one drug as another....wtf is with people [Re: g00ru]
    #7603421 - 11/06/07 04:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Probably DOB. I call it as a streetname "Venom"


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Re: passing off one drug as another....wtf is with people [Re: Cerebro]
    #7603511 - 11/06/07 04:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

PCP wouldn't fit on a blotter.


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Re: passing off one drug as another....wtf is with people [Re: Ness1]
    #7603721 - 11/06/07 05:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

my theory is that there is a new generation of people growing up being sold RCs as other things (mescaline, lsd, pcp, dmt, etc.) - so that when a percentage of them become dealers, they don't bother to do any actual research, since they have first hand experience with (whatever drug).

They wouldn't know what the hell you were talking about if you said RC, or research chemical. I mean, it's been hard to get a few things, nationwide for at least a decade now (if not more), and I know plenty of people that claimed to have done acid/mescaline/whatever many times, but it's probably been RCs every single time.


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Re: passing off one drug as another....wtf is with people [Re: kotik]
    #7604146 - 11/06/07 07:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

This is exactly what makes today's drug scene so fucked up. But with street drugs theres really no way around it, people will always try to pass off one substance as another.

I have been fucked over this way in a couple times so needless to say its sort of a sour subject for me.

It's not even the fact that i got fucked over that pisses me off though, its the fact that people don't even HAVE A CLUE what they are putting in their body sometimes. It's so fucked, especially with some of these dealers that are always putting on airs, acting like their doing the greater good and shit when in actuality their providing people with a completely different chemical then they promised.

Then some kid who thinks he's getting acid takes three hits and he actually got DOC. So instead of tripping and then having a nice restful sleep before work in the morning he's out of his mind for 20 hours wondering why the fuck he's still tripping the whole time.

I could go on but nothing is gonna change the way the drug culture works, except legalization that is.

(DOC is great by the way, but when i take it i want to know its DOC)


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Re: passing off one drug as another....wtf is with people [Re: opensaysme]
    #7604153 - 11/06/07 07:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It all comes down to money. That's all some people care about and if they can make a few bills by selling 5-meo-amt as acid or DOB as acid then the fucking scavenger assholes jump at the opportunity.


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Re: passing off one drug as another....wtf is with people [Re: enesi]
    #7605419 - 11/07/07 12:32 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Due to the availability of psychadelics, and lsd's hard to determine nature, it is much more often going to be people being ripped off then buying actual lsd. Kids out their don't care about you being ripped off, it's all about them and their friends getting high, or someone just looking for an opportunity to make some easy cash. I've often seen it happen at festivals where people are looking around for it. People end up trusting somebody just because they smoke pot or have long hair and a deadhead patch on their jacket, that sort of thing. They walk away and two hours later when it doesn't kick in (of course), they realize they got ripped off and the guy who sold it to you is long gone. But people know this, and still do it, because they're so greedy for the drug they don't care.

I think buying drugs is so much easier when you do not buy unidentifiable ( without a microscope) powders and liquids. I stick to natural drugs anyways, and I don't have a problem.

As far as the youth drug culture is concerned..they're pretty much a bunch of thieves, so keep that in mind. And when I say that, I am not generalizing by any means.


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Re: passing off one drug as another....wtf is with people [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7605445 - 11/07/07 01:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I personally knew 2 OZ blokes who would pass off ephedrine OTC pills off as ecstasy tabs (and X is expensive as fuck down there too, they'd pass them off for $35 a piece and shit).

what makes this worse, is that 1 of them was a fucking bluelight moderator.

i dont know about australia, but if that shit happened HERE (in vegas or socal), they would have gotten their asses fucking stabbed and beat to death.


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Re: passing off one drug as another....wtf is with people [Re: Crystal G]
    #7605473 - 11/07/07 01:29 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

All this talk makes me wonder if I've ever actually even exsperienced an LSD trip. Is there any way to tell if it's really lsd on the blotter? I try to keep all drugs I consume under my control. Like I grow my own weed, mushrooms, peyote. And when I get some cash I will extract my own DMT. But I just ain't got what it takes to be laying out the blotter. Even if I had to ruin a tab to figure it out it'd be worth it just to say either "alright cool dude your a solid source" or "hey, douche bag this isn't acid you should have your ass kicked"


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Re: passing off one drug as another....wtf is with people [Re: headofmike]
    #7605617 - 11/07/07 04:29 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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