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Bikerfool
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Too much nitrogen or a weak strain?
#7594823 - 11/04/07 02:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I made some compost last spring which had old vegetables, 5 bales of hay and a bunch of horse poo, mostly on the fresh side. I kind of just eye-balled things and didn't bother to calculate the nitrogen content.
Now that I'm getting around to using the compost it isn't colonizing quickly at all, but it is a bit. I don't think it will make it. I'm using multi spore liquid culture of Orissa on Rye spawned at a fairly high ratio to the compost. The mycelium isn't rhizomorphic at all, just light and fluffy. The room temperature is low also, in the low 60's.
So which do you think it is? A weak strain or did I add too much nitrogen material to the compost?
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mycocurious
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Re: Too much nitrogen or a weak strain? [Re: Bikerfool]
#7594970 - 11/04/07 03:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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my compost trays take forever to colonize as well in low temperatures and I also recently found that high spawn to substrate ratios can cause it to ferment...that was a bummer. But yea, 3-6 weeks colonization wasn't uncommon for 100% compost.
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Bikerfool
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Re: Too much nitrogen or a weak strain? [Re: mycocurious]
#7594998 - 11/04/07 03:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow, do you have any idea as to why it takes so long for compost to colonize? I'm thinking about experimenting with different coir: compost ratios. Right now I'm thinking, a good recipe might be: 15 parts coir 5 parts compost 2 parts verm 1/2 part gypsum
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Re: Too much nitrogen or a weak strain? [Re: Bikerfool]
#7595613 - 11/04/07 05:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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If it was properly composted and pasteurized, excess moisture content is the biggest reason for slow growth. RR
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mycocurious
Mike O. Kuerias



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Re: Too much nitrogen or a weak strain? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7595648 - 11/04/07 06:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Could be (too moist) but I dry my compost before preparing it to make mixing the gypsum in easier. In my case, it's most likely the "properly composted" bit because this batch had that definite butyric acid smell after it was pasteurized. Smelled fine during harvesting and drying though 
Still, other than that slow colonizing problem, it's performing fine...
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