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nolongerinuse


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Zeitgeist
#7593779 - 11/04/07 08:44 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, i just saw the zeitgeist movie, and i have to say this is pretty f-d up. I believe every word that the film is saying, and i believe that there are people trying to secretly take over the world and make everyone their slaves.
But i dont think that it will ever happen. I think they will come close, those Rokefellers and Bush, among others, but the people would never stand for it, and would catch on to the act eventually.
I mean, we are catching onto it now aren't we? there is no way in hell i would let this shit happen
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ZippoZ
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there are atleast 6 factual errors in the first part where they are talking about religion.
take everything you read with a grain of salt my good man
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nolongerinuse


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Re: Zeitgeist [Re: ZippoZ]
#7593793 - 11/04/07 08:50 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, well forget the part on religion. I was amazed at the part about rockafellas ideas, and that little secret meeting off the coast of Georgia that took place a few decades ago.
We are loosing civil liberties, The Patriot Act, and will most likely slowly loose more.
The president is a f-ing moron for getting into the NOrth American Union, which will just open up our boarders and F everthing up. We gotta get ourselves out of that thing right now- hopefully the next prez will help us out.
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Re: Zeitgeist [Re: ZippoZ]
#7593794 - 11/04/07 08:50 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Capatalistc nomad said: there are atleast 6 factual errors in the first part where they are talking about religion.
take everything you read with a grain of salt my good man
"Now, it's important to point out that there is a tendency to simply disbelieve things that are counter to our understanding, without the necessary research performed. For example, some information contained in Part 1 and Part 3, specifically, is not obtained by simple keyword searches on the Internet. You have to dig deeper. For instance, very often people who look up "Horus" or "The Federal Reserve" on the Internet draw their conclusions from very general or biased sources. Online encyclopedias or text book Encyclopedias often do not contain the information contained in Zeitgeist. However, if one takes the time to read the sources provided, they will find that what is being presented is based on documented evidence. Any corrections, clarifications & further points regarding the film are found on the Clarifications page."
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/clarifications.htm
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Ego Death
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Re: Zeitgeist [Re: ZippoZ]
#7593800 - 11/04/07 08:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Like?
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there is no way in hell i would let this shit happen
Theres nothing you can do about it.
Its the old boiling the frog analogy again! If you boil it slow the frog won't notice until its dead.
They will trick the masses and make you appear to be crazy if you say anything against it. Before long the slaves will be implanted at birth.
Then after that they will use genetic and electronic methods to control the slaves as complete robots.
People with big power experience megalomania - this is human nature. Theres a good chance that most humans - if given the opportunity to control millions of other humans, would not just let them run free with acid and shit. You'd get them to protect you and build you new machines etc This is exactly what is happening.
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nolongerinuse


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No way man, i wont let it happen. I would gladly die in protest than to go silently into the night, and i have a giddy feeling that most people in the world would do the same.
I'll tell ya when shit will really go down- after the next election, when almost a manchurion-esk candidate gets placed into office. A puppet for those in charge of the federal reserve to control, which nobody voted for- most likely clinton.
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Drewwyann
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i think they kinda just pulled the last segment of the movie out of their ass. RFID chips are real, and yes, they are being implemented more and more, but i don't see it as a plan for global domination, and where the hell did the thing about taking away the borders between mexico and the united states thing come from?
The movie is interesting, but i don't think much in it is factual.
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nolongerinuse


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I believe every word of the film.
The North American Union, which was signed by the leaders of the U.S Mexico and Canada only a few months ago will put our 3 countries on a course to become one country. It will open all borders, much like the EU in Europe does. It will create a card for everyone to own, which will allow searchless crossing into the U.S. It will create one currency the ' Amero ' to replace all currency in the north America.
This thing is signed and being implemeted right now man! And its gonna fuck up NOrth America
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nolongerinuse


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One day the EU and NAU will form together along with the Asian Union, and African Union, into one global force, run by the wealthy bankers. Those secret board members on the Federal Reserve. This thing is hapening now, and will try to be complete well within our lifetime- unless we dont let it. WE cannot let this shit happen. WE have to elect someone into office that wont fall prey to the puppet masters that are so easily controling Bush.
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Redstorm
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That sounds like a whole lot of speculation to me.
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Redstorm
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Re: Zeitgeist [Re: Redstorm]
#7593895 - 11/04/07 09:33 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Also, what civil liberties have we lost that we actually had before?
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nolongerinuse


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Re: Zeitgeist [Re: Redstorm]
#7593898 - 11/04/07 09:34 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well i mean, they open boarders on neighboring countries, which before were closed and seperate. What is to stop them from opening the boarders between neighborhing continents"?
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Redstorm
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Borders certainly are not open. Well, they kinda are b/c illegals get in, but they're not open officially to anything except trade. You still need a passport to go to Canada or Mexico, I believe.
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nolongerinuse


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Re: Zeitgeist [Re: Redstorm]
#7593925 - 11/04/07 09:46 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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not for long buddy. The North American Union has been formed officially formed. It calls for a universal I.D card for all North Americans deemed 'good', which will allow access throughout the entire continent. I think its too be implemented within the next year.
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Redstorm
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Still more speculation unless you back it up with a source. Not a link from infowars or prisonplanet, either. I want to see the law that sets this up, specifically where it says that we will all have ID cards and that all three countries will be joined as an official sovereign entity,
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Drewwyann
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i know its been proposed, but just how far along has it come since its proposal?
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nolongerinuse


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check you tube man- Lou Dobs has done some coverage of this NAU
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nolongerinuse


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The sad thing is.... they are getting away with it- unless we do something... anything.. we gotta act and call these shitheads out
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Redstorm
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Re: Zeitgeist [Re: Redstorm]
#7593972 - 11/04/07 10:03 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: Still more speculation unless you back it up with a source. Not a link from infowars or prisonplanet, either. I want to see the law that sets this up, specifically where it says that we will all have ID cards and that all three countries will be joined as an official sovereign entity,
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nolongerinuse


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Re: Zeitgeist [Re: Redstorm]
#7593989 - 11/04/07 10:07 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its hard to look it up when the white house is reluctant to release the information. See Vid*
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wps
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certain groups of people are always trying to take over the world. In the past it was done with armies and governments. Now its more of a clandestine, secret meetings between wealthy industrialists type of thing. But there are so many groups of disagreeing, powerful people trying to 'take over the world', that no one group will ever fully control everything.
These people can try to take over the world all they want. Some of them may even convince themselves that they run the world. But the fact of the matter is, no one organization can possibly control everything that happens in the world. Its just not possible. The fact that I am stoned right now, in defiance of the world government, is proof that they still are very far away from having total control of every individual's actions.
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Re: Zeitgeist [Re: wps]
#7594125 - 11/04/07 10:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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They want to keep you stoned, while they sneakily put into place treaties and policies that will slowly take away your chance to speak your mind. Many high politicians are for the controling of the internet even- i think. so... yeah
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nolongerinuse


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Well the only real chance we have of not letting these shietheads succeed is in the upcomming prez election...
RON PUAL.... please dear Lord, vote RON PAUL!
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Redstorm
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Re: Zeitgeist [Re: Redstorm]
#7594253 - 11/04/07 11:41 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Redstorm said:
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Redstorm said: Still more speculation unless you back it up with a source. Not a link from infowars or prisonplanet, either. I want to see the law that sets this up, specifically where it says that we will all have ID cards and that all three countries will be joined as an official sovereign entity,
Care to answer me?
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Re: Zeitgeist [Re: Redstorm]
#7594264 - 11/04/07 11:43 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Redstorm
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I don't have a subscription, so I can't read the whole article. I don't want commentary, I want some substance. Give me something from the government saying that this will be implemented..
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You know what I think about this? I read a good discussion on the subject of western society etc. Some of you probably will hate me for this...
Our current society is based on the Enlightenment ideals of the 18th century. You know, democracy, religious tolerance, and all that.
All this is based on the idea of rational thinking. We believe that we can keep on improving ourselves through rationality and reason! Our current technology dominated society is directly based on this ideal of rationality and reasoning. We dissect the world around us through reason.
The end result of all this rationality and reason is a form of society where everything has to be controlled and governed through reason. We have to dominate everything! It's rational!
We have to be controlled, in order to keep on advancing. It's only logical! Society has to have rules!
The Enlightenment lead us to this rationality of conquering and dominating everything around us. It's the only logical conclusion of those Enlightenment ideals. We have to dominate other cultures because we are Enlightened! We are better! We are more civilized! We have democracy!!!
Fucked up eh.
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Redstorm
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I'd rather be ruled by those who embrace rationality than those who rule based on mysticism or religion.
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Re: Zeitgeist [Re: Redstorm]
#7594736 - 11/04/07 02:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I love how someone posts about that damn movie, and then instantly they get to like one or two mushroom rating...
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