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kala22333
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Revitalizing spent cakes
#7593776 - 11/04/07 08:44 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wonder if you can give new vigor to a spent pf-tek cake by soaking it in a mix of water and brown rice flour.
Feed the mycelium.
I'm gonna try it in a few weeks, but I wanted to know if any one else has any ideas/info about this.
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Re: Revitalizing spent cakes [Re: kala22333]
#7593785 - 11/04/07 08:46 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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This question gets asked at least once per week. The answer is no. What you would be doing is feeding the contaminant spores that are all over the cake. If you want a spent cake to perform again, bury it outdoors in a manure or compost pile and forget about it. Often fruits will appear after rains. RR
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Re: Revitalizing spent cakes [Re: kala22333]
#7593787 - 11/04/07 08:46 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think this has been asked before.
Dont think it would work, cakes are not spent just becuase theres no nuitriants left or water. The myc is old and dies.
I asked about dunking in nuitrient rich water, and rr response was that mycelium dont absorb nuitrients from the water, or something to that effect
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kala22333
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Re: Revitalizing spent cakes [Re: veda_sticks]
#7593796 - 11/04/07 08:50 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey, thanks for the quick responses, and sorry for asking a question thats already been answered.
I dont think I buy it about the myc. being too old to continue producing though. in nature mycelium will live many many years.
But in reply to the first answer, are you then saying that if I do this I will get a cake covered in mould?
I'm gonna try it anyway, I'll let you all know if I have any success. Cheers, and thanks again.
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Re: Revitalizing spent cakes [Re: kala22333]
#7594198 - 11/04/07 11:22 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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its a little different in nature. I'm guessing the myc over winter is dorment.
yes if u keep a cake going long enough it will contam. the process of fruiting is from the myc having to reproduce as it knows that it will die soon.
as it gets older its ability to fight contams is less.
if done right u could get 6 flushes from a cake.
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Re: Revitalizing spent cakes [Re: veda_sticks]
#7605303 - 11/06/07 11:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am not sure I agree with you (in a friendly way). Mushrooms fruit when conditions become correct. The possibly giant (as in the biggest living organism on the planet) mat of underground mycelium lives in perpetuity if conditions are right. Things reproduce to reproduce, period. Darwin would suggest a species that didn't reproduce well would have a bad chance at successfully passing down through the ages.
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Re: Revitalizing spent cakes [Re: veda_sticks]
#7605313 - 11/06/07 11:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am not sure I agree with you (in a friendly way). Mushrooms fruit when conditions become correct. The possibly giant (as in the biggest living organism on the planet) mat of underground mycelium lives in perpetuity if conditions are right. Things reproduce to reproduce, period. Darwin would suggest a species that didn't reproduce well would have a bad chance at successfully passing down through the ages.
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